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Arab Basketball Championship UAE 2010-2011 [15 May - 25 May]

congrats champville ,they deserve it ,all what i can say if Riyadi continue in this way they will be in a big disaster in asia ,i think there is problems between Players and some fights ,this is not a problem of spirit or Confidence ,Riyadi are a professional team and in Riyadi history they didn t even Loose 2 games in a row while this year 4 games in a row !!!! there is something huge inside the Team
 
gazara said:
can anyone have stats for the Game ? (Riyadi-Champville game ) ??
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Champville 73-69 Riyadi

Q1: 25-17, Q2: 39-38, Q3: 57-60, Q4: 73-69

Stats:

Champville:
-Garnett Thompson 27Pts, 13Rbs (4/7 3's + 1/2 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Jay Youngblood 22Pts, 8Rbs, 2Ass (2/5 3's + 4/5 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Mazen Mneimneh 14Pts, 6Rbs (3/7 3's + 1/2 FT)
-Fady Khatib 13Pts, 5Rbs, 7Ass (0/2 3's + 7/8 FT)
-Carl Sarkis 0Pt, 2Rbs, 2Ass (0/2 3's)
-Nadim Hawi 0Pt, 3Rbs
-Miguel Martinez 0Pt (0/1 3's)

Riyadi:
-Jean Abdel Nour 20Pts, 3Rbs, 2Ass (3/8 3's + 1/1 FT)
-Nate Johnson 13Pts, 6Rbs, 4Ass (2/5 FT) (Added 1 Block)
-Ismail Ahmad 12Pts, 11Rbs, 5Ass (0/4 3's + 6/8 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Loren Woods 10Pts, 5Rbs (0/1 FT)
-Ali Mahmoud 6Pts, 5Rbs, 4Ass (0/4 3's)
-Omar Turk 3Pts, 3Rbs (1/4 3's)
-Joe Vogel 3Pts, 4Rbs (1/5 3's) (Added 1 Block)
-Billy Pharis 2Pts
 
Le MaK said:
The game you just watched Was between two teams with a huge dif in budgets...
riyadi's budget is like 3X champville's ...
And champville were missing the american center Lee benson , due to an injury since game 2 in this tourney .
Jay youngblood's salary is the lowest between all 6 imports, not to mention that lorren woods is getting paid per month more than the starting line up for champville :)
Garnett thompson joined the team for this cup , so the chemistry with him is a bit " under construction " ... but he did well in my opinion .
as for the SG ur talking about , his name mazen mneimneh, and yes he's the key factor in the game... he did extremly well !
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Thanks for these insights, I did not know the differences were that big. I did not mean to say that Garnett Thompson is a bad player, he surely is talented, will grab a lot of rebounds, etc. but I don´t think he understands the game too well.

But Champville surely looked better than Riyadi, especially if they were missing one import player.

I will surely try to watch the semi-finals, too...
 
Gilardino1206 said:
Thanks for these insights, I did not know the differences were that big. I did not mean to say that Garnett Thompson is a bad player, he surely is talented, will grab a lot of rebounds, etc. but I don´t think he understands the game too well.

But Champville surely looked better than Riyadi, especially if they were missing one import player.

I will surely try to watch the semi-finals, too...
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The fact is, Riyadi also have joe vogel the neutralized 211 CM center , when champville in this game had Nadim hawi ( not to be compared ) 203 CM center ... who only played for less than half the game . thats when garnett started to play the 5, which is not his role actually !
i just hope you see champville playing with full squad in the finals, with lee garnett fadi jay and miguel ... your gona be surprised what a 800K budget team can do ... compared to riyadi's 2M+ budget ...!
 
Le MaK said:
Champville 73-69 Riyadi

Q1: 25-17, Q2: 39-38, Q3: 57-60, Q4: 73-69

Stats:

Champville:
-Garnett Thompson 27Pts, 13Rbs (4/7 3's + 1/2 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Jay Youngblood 22Pts, 8Rbs, 2Ass (2/5 3's + 4/5 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Mazen Mneimneh 14Pts, 6Rbs (3/7 3's + 1/2 FT)
-Fady Khatib 13Pts, 5Rbs, 7Ass (0/2 3's + 7/8 FT)
-Carl Sarkis 0Pt, 2Rbs, 2Ass (0/2 3's)
-Nadim Hawi 0Pt, 3Rbs
-Miguel Martinez 0Pt (0/1 3's)

Riyadi:
-Jean Abdel Nour 20Pts, 3Rbs, 2Ass (3/8 3's + 1/1 FT)
-Nate Johnson 13Pts, 6Rbs, 4Ass (2/5 FT) (Added 1 Block)
-Ismail Ahmad 12Pts, 11Rbs, 5Ass (0/4 3's + 6/8 FT) (Added 2 Blocks)
-Loren Woods 10Pts, 5Rbs (0/1 FT)
-Ali Mahmoud 6Pts, 5Rbs, 4Ass (0/4 3's)
-Omar Turk 3Pts, 3Rbs (1/4 3's)
-Joe Vogel 3Pts, 4Rbs (1/5 3's) (Added 1 Block)
-Billy Pharis 2Pts
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Stats according to Roy Hajj from lebanese basketball group on facebook
 
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Le MaK said:
The fact is, Riyadi also have joe vogel the neutralized 211 CM center , when champville in this game had Nadim hawi ( not to be compared ) 203 CM center ... who only played for less than half the game . thats when garnett started to play the 5, which is not his role actually !
i just hope you see champville playing with full squad in the finals, with lee garnett fadi jay and miguel ... your gona be surprised what a 800K budget team can do ... compared to riyadi's 2M+ budget ...!
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great win for champville,not to be underestimated as i noticed that riyadi were playing better basketball then their last 3 games,specially with jean performing good.
but i guess that in the end coach ghassan and Fadi's experience gave champville the game.
i'm really surprised to see thomson playin this way, i could never've imagined that coach ghassan would make use of him this way,it's like he's a completely different player,not the same clown playin for sagesse, he was even hitting the 3s :D
it just goes to show that coach ghassan can make good use of his players unlike someone:rolleyes:
 
gpralph said:
Can someone close to this PLEASE find the stats for the game? This is really bush league that nothing is ever posted. Who is running this tournament? Is there a local paper that has this?
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For ASU's game : Jameel Watkins 16 pts , Sam Daghlas 14 , Ayman Idais 13 , Zaid Abbas 12 , Mousa Awadi 10 as for Forehan-Kelly may be 6 points from two shots from the Arc .... Kelly did not show up so good in this Tournament , Watkins was better ... Kelly only shoots from the Arc and in this he makes too many attempts .... he is a little bit Moody player
 
The first is the champion, the second is the runner up

the runner up was 5-0, the champion 1-3 in first round

despite all the problems with both sides

when they meet against each other = High Quality = Close Game = Fun = Our Teams are in good health

Proud To Be Lebanese \o/
 
mavrick_h said:
Som3a out Garnett Thompson in with Riyadi in ABC Cup 2011
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Nothing yet my friend, Riyadi's management mentioned it , and might have talked to garnett about it, but its not official @ all !
Anyway, that would be another bad mistake from the yellow management...
they signed Lorren bcz mahram knew how to use him... they didn't !
they signed ismail, believing that he's the Savior ... he's not !
they waived Nate from asia, while he gave them everything ...
now they want garnett bcz he killed them last night ... !
i wonder , will they ask champville to give them Coach ghassan on loan for the asian cup ?
 
Le MaK said:
Nothing yet my friend, Riyadi's management mentioned it , and might have talked to garnett about it, but its not official @ all !
Anyway, that would be another bad mistake from the yellow management...
they signed Lorren bcz mahram knew how to use him... they didn't !
they signed ismail, believing that he's the Savior ... he's not !
they waived Nate from asia, while he gave them everything ...
now they want garnett bcz he killed them last night ... !
i wonder , will they ask champville to give them Coach ghassan on loan for the asian cup ?
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it's looking official on Asia Basket, the latest headline :)

I could understand if Garnett denied the news (wise man) he doesn't want to confirm during a critical stage at a certain regional tournament. Unlike Riyadi lool :)
 
Le MaK said:
Nothing yet my friend, Riyadi's management mentioned it , and might have talked to garnett about it, but its not official @ all !
Anyway, that would be another bad mistake from the yellow management...
they signed Lorren bcz mahram knew how to use him... they didn't !
they signed ismail, believing that he's the Savior ... he's not !
they waived Nate from asia, while he gave them everything ...
now they want garnett bcz he killed them last night ... !
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I agree, I think Riyadi's management are lost and don't know what they need to do to save face...

Imo they should have stayed with Nate+Loren who played with them for most of the season.
If Riyadi manage to get Thompson they will have a team of 5 players where each is playing on his own like previously used to happen when Riyadi plays in such tournaments and that still will not guarantee them to win anything...

Really, deciding to play in this Arab championship was so wrong of a decision by Riyadi that it screwed up everything for them (mentally/emotionally/psychologically...you name it)

1) They took this championship for granted.
2) They didn't really care about winning this championship since they have already won it 5 times before.
3) Players here were on vacation rather than preparing well for the Asian Championship.

So obviously this tournament had a much more negative impact+outcome for Riyadi rather than a positive one...

If Riyadi had decided to have a small camp whether internally or outside Lebanon where they might have played against some European teams I think that would have been way better for them.

Anyways I don't think last minute changes are going to do anything now... What Riyadi needs to do is regroup themselves and try to believe (this is where coach Fouad has to do alot of work) that they can be able to compete with the other teams in the Asian Championship and have a chance to to reach the later stages of the competition....

And I am saying all this because I am a Riyadi fan and want to see them do well...
 
mavrick_h said:
it's looking official on Asia Basket, the latest headline :)

I could understand if Garnett denied the news (wise man) he doesn't want to confirm during a critical stage at a certain regional tournament. Unlike Riyadi lool :)
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Don't take asia-basket as an official news page, since i used to write there and i know how things are done !
Riyadi's management did talk with garnett, but there is nothing official yet ...
 
Khalid80 said:
I agree, I think Riyadi's management are lost and don't know what they need to do to save face...

Imo they should have stayed with Nate+Loren who played with them for most of the season.
If Riyadi manage to get Thompson they will have a team of 5 players where each is playing on his own like previously used to happen when Riyadi plays in such tournaments and that still will not guarantee them to win anything...

Really, deciding to play in this Arab championship was so wrong of a decision by Riyadi that it screwed up everything for them (mentally/emotionally/psychologically...you name it)

1) They took this championship for granted.
2) They didn't really care about winning this championship since they have already won it 5 times before.
3) Players here were on vacation rather than preparing well for the Asian Championship.

So obviously this tournament had a much more negative impact+outcome for Riyadi rather than a positive one...

If Riyadi had decided to have a small camp whether internally or outside Lebanon where they might have played against some European teams I think that would have been way better for them.

Anyways I don't think last minute changes are going to do anything now... What Riyadi needs to do is regroup themselves and try to believe (this is where coach Fouad has to do alot of work) that they can be able to compete with the other teams in the Asian Championship and have a chance to to reach the later stages of the competition....

And I am saying all this because I am a Riyadi fan and want to see them do well...
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totally agree with you Khalid

they should have played the same starters as before the final 4
Nate Loren Omar Ali Joe

they could have use Ismail as a jocker card during the game...like Ghassan Sarkis did with Jay in Champville

FAC gave priority to the names instead of keeping the same formation.
Pulling of Omar directly was a big mistake....i agree that Jean at some point is better than Omar but he can't throw everything out of the blue.

2 weeks ago this team was somewhere and now is completely a different place it's like the start of the season for Riyadi lol

I used to remember when Yasser El Hajj went to play with Sagesse in Asia during the golden days...Ghassan Sarkis Kept him on the bench and used him as a rotation with one of his main players.
 
SOLO said:
For ASU's game : Jameel Watkins 16 pts , Sam Daghlas 14 , Ayman Idais 13 , Zaid Abbas 12 , Mousa Awadi 10 as for Forehan-Kelly may be 6 points from two shots from the Arc .... Kelly did not show up so good in this Tournament , Watkins was better ... Kelly only shoots from the Arc and in this he makes too many attempts .... he is a little bit Moody player
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Hard luck man ... :)
 
Arab Clubs Championship Semi Finals

Arab Clubs Championship Semi Finals

What time are the games being played? Are there any results yet?
 
Arab Basketball Championship UAE 2010-2011 [15 May - 25 May]

Semi.Finals

Tuesday May 24:

ASU (Jordan) v/s Sala (Morocco) ---> 62-74

Champville (Lebanon) v/s Sharjah (UAE) ---> 75-80


Final Game :

Sala (Morroco) Vs Sharjah (UAE)


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


Champville played very well against Sharjah in the first Q ,and lead by over then 20 but then the UAE Team come back and come back to have a lead in the 4th Q then won the Game ,if Champville had 3 Foreigners (Equal to UAE Team foreigners they would won the game easily) the 3 imports of UAE Give them the win ,as for Champville Khatib-Jay-Thompson were very good but unfortunatly lost the game ,as i said if there is and Equal between the 2 teams Champville would win the game easily !

Hard luck Champville and Congrats sharjah !!
 
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