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SMART GILAS North American Tour

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how come there is no scheduled game in VEGAS! i thought it was a Las Vegas tour?:confused:
 
r$paeng$p said:
how come there is no scheduled game in VEGAS! i thought it was a Las Vegas tour?:confused:
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I think the Vegas leg of their tour is the same camp they attended last year? They will be attending that Joe Asburner Camp (did I get it right?) if the reports are accurate? Correct me if I'm wrong here Sir Nardy :D
 
So what style does ABA Teams play? Aren't they too NBA-ish? Whatever happened to learning international brand of basketball? Is this just part of the marketing ?
 
Does Jericho de Guzman play basketball?

wow Kelly and JunMar are on the team + a healthy Jamal! Dream team ata to.


Anyway, if they use Powerade paraphernalia, I think a lot of Pinoys in Cali would recognize the players. Imagine the surprise of the Yapsters when they see Captain Tiu.

Let's think of this as an acid test against an ENHCAncED PBA squad.
Which is stronger, PBA teams or ABA teams?

Good luck Gilas and I hope this'll be televised.
 
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So what style does ABA Teams play? Aren't they too NBA-ish? Whatever happened to learning international brand of basketball? Is this just part of the marketing ?
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yes ABA teams play american style pro basketball but since GILAS is going to undergo training at Las Vegas, an offer to play ABA teams while they are there is hard to pass up. Remember what we want is for our boys is to be exposed with all kinds of opposition and all kind styles of play. This would be even better than last year when they faced a pick-up team led by Antoine Walker, the 4 ABA teams would be more organized team wise while the All-star team would be a test for Gilas in facing a team filled-up with athletically gifted players.

But just like the Serbian trip, I am not expecting big wins for us but what I want to see is the continuos improvement by our bigs as this is key to our success. If our bigs would be able to stand their ground against the big Aussies, big Serbs and big Americans then we really now have a team that's ready to go to war against the best of Asia.

With the Beijing Aoshen Olympians from China having played in the ABA comparisons would surely be made between our team and that of the Chinese.
 
kaiziken_pinas said:
Does Jericho de Guzman play basketball?

wow Kelly and JunMar are on the team + a healthy Jamal! Dream team ata to.


Anyway, if they use Powerade paraphernalia, I think a lot of Pinoys in Cali would recognize the players. Imagine the surprise of the Yapsters when they see Captain Tiu.

Let's think of this as an acid test against an ENHCAncED PBA squad.
Which is stronger, PBA teams or ABA teams?

Good luck Gilas and I hope this'll be televised.
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Jericho is now undergoing residency at CSB.
 
nardy said:
yes ABA teams play american style pro basketball but since GILAS is going to undergo training at Las Vegas, an offer to play ABA teams while they are there is hard to pass up. Remember what we want is for our boys is to be exposed with all kinds of opposition and all kind styles of play. This would be even better than last year when they faced a pick-up team led by Antoine Walker, the 4 ABA teams would be more organized team wise while the All-star team would be a test for Gilas in facing a team filled-up with athletically gifted players.
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Ok. Well atleast we are seeing different types of teams.
 
my comment on the poster...what in the world are they talking about in the line up?darn, how did they get such info?..i think sbp should somehow correct this..i mean who did this?can somebody call them and make clarifications?

second, i'm kinda searching for threads about SMART GILAS on serbia...i can't find one...if there is any, pls be kind to paste the link here...thank you...
 
tamagurl87 said:
my comment on the poster...what in the world are they talking about in the line up?darn, how did they get such info?..i think sbp should somehow correct this..i mean who did this?can somebody call them and make clarifications?

second, i'm kinda searching for threads about SMART GILAS on serbia...i can't find one...if there is any, pls be kind to paste the link here...thank you...
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actually there is a problem, I am not really sure if the SBP really confirmed participation. I know there were discussions before but I was surprised when the news about said games came out of the net and that includes the promotional materials which have a lot of erroneous details. Thats why I posted it here.

Am sure the U18 has not confirmed playing as they are actually having problems with their line-up, with that they could not yet have their passports and visas processed yet. From what I know, this team is to train in Indiana on May.

Those who are knowledgeable to US NCAA Rules, do need to know if playing against a Professional ABA Team would be a violation in eligibility rules. I need to protect the players who are governed by the US NCAA which is strict about "amateurism".
 
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actually there is a problem, I am not really sure if the SBP really confirmed participation. I know there were discussions before but I was surprised when the news about said games came out of the net and that includes the promotional materials which have a lot of erroneous details. Thats why I posted it here.

Am sure the U18 has not confirmed playing as they are actually having problems with their line-up, with that they could not yet have their passports and visas processed yet. From what I know, this team is to train in Indiana on May.

Those who are knowledgeable to US NCAA Rules, do need to know if playing against a Professional ABA Team would be a violation in eligibility rules. I need to protect the players who are governed by the US NCAA which is strict about "amateurism".
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Participating in try-outs is allowed as long it would not lasts longer than 48 hours. But playing for a team like Smart Gilas which can be classified both as amateur and professional (their players received salaries) can cause future conflicts with the player's eligibility.

Try this link : http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...ERES&CACHEID=5232670041a35a518022b19cc9880460
 
To invite Christian Standhardinger and the other mystery player during academic year may cause losing their eligibility to play. Take note this month April still falls within academic year of US NCAA schools and to invite them even for a try-out will likely cause troubles:(:(:(
 
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FilWelsh said:
To invite Christian Standhardinger and the other mystery player during academic year may cause losing their eligibility to play. Take note this month April still falls within their academic year of US NCAA schools and to invite them even for a try-out will cause troubles:(:(:(
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Actually I do not see any problems with US NCAA players being invited to tryout or actually trying-out for the NATIONAL TEAM as we already had this clarified with the office of Mr.Steve Mallonee of the National Collegiate Athletic Association when Chris Lutz, Gian Chiu, Nick Hailey, Japeth Aguilar, Marcio Lassiter, Jon Brick and Sean Anthony joined the Las Vegas tryouts last year.

Here is the email of the US NCAA to the SBP.
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 4:25 PM

JOSE EMMANUEL EALA
Executive Director
SBP

Dear Mr. Eala,

Because Mr. Mallonee is out of the office until next Wednesday (April 8, 2009), he asked me to respond to your inquiry..

NCAA rules permit student-athletes who attend member institutions to participate in national team tryouts and to receive expenses for competition from an outside team or nonprofessional sponsor of the competition. NCAA Division I Bylaw 14.7.3 sets forth exceptions to the general rule that restricts the participation of student-athletes in competition other than for their intercollegiate teams. One such exception [Bylaw 14.7.3.1-(d)] allows student-athletes to participate in official tryouts and competition involving national teams and junior national teams sponsored by the appropriate national governing bodies or Olympic committee (or the equivalent organization).

NCAA Division I Bylaw 12.1.2.1.4.5 allows student-athletes to receive actual and necessary expenses (e.g., travel, lodging, meals) to participate in competition from the nonprofessional sponsor of the competition. Therefore, if tryouts you have described below will included competition and the Philippine Basketball Federation is the sponsor of the competition, it would be permissible for the federation to provide actual and necessary expenses to student-athletes at NCAA member institutions to participate in the tryouts.

Please note that I’ve provided specific legislative citations for NCAA Division I rules. NCAA Divisions II and III have similar rules, but the citations may not be exactly the same. If any NCAA member institution has questions regarding this information, they should be directed to call our office at 317-917-6003.

I hope this information is helpful. If you need more information, please let me know.

Thanks,

Leeland Zeller
Associate Director of Academic and Membership Affairs
National Collegiate Athletic Association
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The probable problem I see is if the ABA Friendship Games is classified as a competition that a student-athlete is permitted to participate in since the ABA is a professional league. Actually when they said the games were called as Friendship Games, I thought initially as exhibition games it would probably be just fine but when the press release of the ABA said that the entry of the Philippines to the ABA is part of its $200 million dollar global expansion for the US professional league that made me uncomfortable.

I feel more at ease if the practice games were against US College teams.

In contrast I see no such problem when Gilas plays the UBC Thunderbirds.and the Canada West All Stars.

Anyway I asked the SBP to clarify the matter first with US NCAA before any student-athlete trying-out is fielded-in in the said Friendship Games.
 
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final game will be against an All-Star team of top West Coast ABA Players.

I have a question, would there be a violation of US NCAA Eligibility Rules if a player currently playing for US College team or a High School player set to play for a US College Team is to play in the ABA.
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Christian Standhardinger and Ray Parks? :D
 
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