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Early predictions!

So far it looks like spain and russia are the biggest final candidates. No objections to that right?

I think lithuania will be very much dependent on their fans' performance. They have serious pg issues so far. But some effective fan support and a high 3pt percentage can always carry them to where they want.

btw does anybody have a chart/tree of the championship so we can predict the whole thing better?
 
Group A
1-Spain
2-Turkey
3-Lithuania
4-Great Britain
5-Poland
Group B
Germany
France
Serbia
Italy
Israel
Group C
Greece
Croatia
Montenegro
Bosnia
Group D
Slovenia
Russia
Ukraine
Belgium


Group E
Spain
Lithuania
Germany
Turkey ( i dont think they will made semi final. but sure about Top8...)
Serbia
France

Group F
Slovenia
doesnt matter others cant do anything for Top 4.

Final
Spain - Lithuania

Are you serious? Turkey 2nd? Maybe you forgot that this EC wont be in Turkey?:rolleyes::D
 
So far it looks like spain and russia are the biggest final candidates. No objections to that right?

I think lithuania will be very much dependent on their fans' performance. They have serious pg issues so far. But some effective fan support and a high 3pt percentage can always carry them to where they want.

btw does anybody have a chart/tree of the championship so we can predict the whole thing better?

Not really. I think Lithuania will be just fine. Even in the games they lost, against Spain and Russia they didn't look bad, certainly they were not dominated on the PG-position. Recalling how good their big men looked, they certainly didn't do that per se, but because they were found by the perimeter players. Having a good pg is not the holy grail; often it means to have a hole in the perimeter defense as good pgs often are not the best defenders. Essential is to have a good connection between post/paint players and perimeter players and Lithuania has that. Attesting their big men/frontcourt to be the best in Europe, as I do, certainly means acknowledging some quality of interplay between backcourt and frontcourt.
 
Do people think Bulgaria has any chance of making it out of Group D?

Slovenia and Russia are no-brainers to advance but Ukraine, Belgium, Georgia are teams Bulgaria can compete with. I think Bulgaria has an actual chance to get to 3rd place in the group. Ukraine should be the toughest competition for 3rd place.

3 teams will advance to next round from that group; Russia, Slovenia and ... no one cares. Draw was awkward, somehow 4 under average teams were drawn in group D. Consequently, one of those 4 bad teams must advance to top 12, but - whichever it'd be - it'll have 0.01% chances to reach top 8 and 0.001% chances to reach all-important top 6.

Think about it this way: somehow No 12 and No 13 seed progressed to sweet sixteen and play each other - so one will be in final 8 for sure. But, guess what, winner plays Duke in next round - so no one is really interested who wins in that No12 vs No 13 game as each of two has negligible chances for final four.
 
http://www.ballineurope.com/national-teams/eurobasket-power-rankings-8765/

EUROBASKET 2011 POWER RANKINGS: FIRST TAKE
EUROBASKET 2011, LATEST NEWS, NATIONAL TEAMS

As just nine days remain until Eurobasket 2011 tips off in Lithuania, BallinEurope today takes a look back at the performances of the two dozen teams slated to compete in the big tournament and deploys some good old power rankings – and lotsa highlight clips from friendlies and tourneys played throughout The Continent.

Once again, a reminder to readers: These ratings are based only on how the teams are trending and are no indication of prognostication for Eurobasket. (The BallinEurope Fearless Predictions™ will be released soon enough…)

1. Spain – Yes, they lost to Lithuania in the grand opening of Kauno Arena, but BiE is sticking with Team Spain in the top spot. As defending Eurobasket champions, this team is chasing history and public perception has them on the rise, i.e. “El rival de España en el Eurobasket es España.” Plus, the side got back on track in tournament warmups, dispatching Slovenia on Sunday despite shooting 2-of-10 on threes and under 66% (21-of-32) from the free-throw line.

2. Greece – What controversy? Team Greece is up to their old tricks in European play – with or without Ioannis Bourousis and Sofoklis Schortsanitis – going 3-0 at the BEKO Supercup tournament over Turkey, Belgium and Germany; earning a like mark against Russia, Israel and Poland in the European Basketball Tour 2011 in Cyprus; and finishing 2-1 in the Trofeo Tassoni against Bosnia & Herzegovina, Italy and Poland. This is an interesting Greek team, with more of an emphasis on speed than in recent years, but they look just as good early on.

3. Russia – Timofey Mozgov may have washed out of New York last season, but he’s been right at home with Team Russia, going for 18- and 16-point performances to lead the way in a pair of August victories over Team Lithuania. And Andrei Kirilenko doesn’t appear to have missed a beat, either, as Russia’s enjoying a 4-0 run – though that includes two wins over Latvia – since losing to Greece on August 7, and they’re 6-1 for the month.

4. France – Since getting smoked by Spain on August 10, France is 6-0 after cruising through the London Invitational Tournament undefeated. Les Bleus’ impressive play was capped with a win over Serbia, as Tony Parker contributed a huge 24-point, six-rebound, three-assist performance. With Joakim Noah rounding into shape, this could be the best French team in six years.

5. Lithuania – Sure, the Eurobasket hosts are just 2-2 since playing Spain in Madrid on August 14, but if the debut game in Kauno is any indication, Lithuania is simply not to be trifled with in the tourney. Once again, Lithuania appears to be bringing a squad with insufficient height and few playmakers on paper, but this team is living proof of the old cliché’s veracity: “They don’t play the games on paper.”

While the star of this show is Jonas Valanciunas, it was nice to see a spreading the wealth to the likes of Mantas Kalnietis and Simas Jasaitis against the Spaniards as Lithuania continually demonstrated nifty passing to the tune of 20 assists; in the recent loss to Russia, Paulius Jankunas and Rimantas Kaukenas were top scorers. Beware this team’s depth – and if you’re a Lithuania fan, pray for the speedy return of Robertas Javtokas and Darius Songaila.

6. Croatia – With an impressive-enough second-place showing in the Adecco Ex-Yu Cup registered, BiE wondered if Team Croatia would be ready to play against more powerful teams after the team’s uneven, lackluster play in the first two games of the London Invitational Tournament. Problems were rife: Croatia shot a dismal 1-of-17 on threes versus France as they collapsed in the second half, while in their stunning 12-point loss to Australia going just 16-of-50 inside the arc and scoring 19 points in the first half. One has to be concerned … what’s that? They took the last three in London, including avenging the loss to Serbia in the Adecco? All right then.

7. Serbia – While Team Serbia looked impressive in the Adecco Cup, they’ve since reversed paths with Croatia, losing to France and Australia in London while requiring a fourth-quarter comeback to overcome Britain in the London Invitational Tournament. They’ll certainly come to play at Eurobasket but for now … ouch.

8. Germany – Dirk Nowitzki’s team performed well enough as they hosted the BEKO Supercup tournament, closing things out with a win over Turkey; German fans had to be particularly cheered by the play of Chris Kaman in the third-place game, as he led all scorers with 16. This chased the German win of the Spor Toto World Cup tournament, in which Deutschland held on to earn an impressive victory over Serbia.

9. Italy – So let’s see … Italia, with its collection of NBA players, Euroleaguers and the odd naturalized citizen or two, first loses to Bosnia & Herzegovina in the opener of the Trofeo Tassoni tournament in Rimini, squeaks past Poland in the second game, and then manhandles Greece for an impressive 82-73, tourney-winning victory. In other words, Team Italy is up to its old unpredictable tricks again.

10. Turkey – Ah, fickle Turkey. Entering the summer with more big men than an NFL team and a roster as good as anything they’ve put on the floor in a decade, Team Turkey was flat-out disappointing in the BEKO Supercup, losing to Serbia early and dropping the final game to Chris Kaman (!) and Germany. Enes Kanter has once again been as good as advertised in friendly matches, but ball movement has generally been slack in August matches.

11. Slovenia – Matjaz Smodis, still at the peak of his game, may not be enough for Team Slovenia to compete with the big boys … of course, BiE has underestimated them in the past. After leading his side to a third-place finish in the Adecco Cup tournament – though in the team’s best game, all they could do was keep things competitive with Croatia – Smodis wasn’t enough this weekend as the Slovenians could only hang with Team Spain through one quarter before too much of the Gasol Brothers rapidly put the game out of reach. Goran “The Dragon” Dragic still appears to be a bit sleepy as well; worse yet, Miha Zupan, squad member since 2006, has been declared out of the Eurobasket tournament.

12. Georgia – Georgia is looking tuned up after going 3-0 in the inaugural Eurojam basketball tournament, though can Israel, Netherlands and Villanova University really be considered a challenge?

13. Ukraine – Team Ukraine most recently bagged a nice 81-67 win against Germany to close out the Spor Toto World Cup tournament there, but a couple of caveats should be applied: Germany, not needing to win the game to take the round-robin competition, sat Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Kaman for most of the 40 minutes; secondly, Ukraine still finished last on the table.

14. Finland

15. Portugal – Sure, beating up on Team Hungary in the Eurocup Qualifying Round is no big deal for either side, but surely the adrenaline is flowing in these countries. Finland gets the edge here, having topped Portugal in a squeaker in pool play, but the teams meet again on Wednesday.

16. Great Britain – BiE has always been a proponent of awarding Team Britain an automatic bid to the basketball tournament for the 2012 Olympic Games by dint of the country’s status as host. After the London Invitational, however, BiE’s of two minds about FIBA worries regarding the state of British Basketball. On the one hand, Britain played well enough in losses to Australia (if you don’t mind the defense giving up 95 points to a slower team) and Serbia (even outrebounding the Serbs 41-38), but these guys still kinda feel like also-rans.

While Team Britain cannot be blamed for the NBA/FIBA insurance snafu keeping Ben Gordon out of international play in 2011, one can’t help but guess that the challenge will be limited to winning a single game in Group A. Is this really an Olympic qualifier?

(P.S. You gotta love the way Joel Freeland’s been playing lately.)

17. Belgium – Bad news/good news about Belgium in the BEKO Supercup: The bad news is that the team went 0-3 in tourney against fellow Eurobasketeers Germany, Turkey and Greece; the good news is that every game was close, with Belgian losses of six, six and nine points. Yes, that *is* the good news.

18. Bulgaria – After going 1-2 and defeating only an “exhausted” Israel side in the European Basketball Tour, Bulgaria was spanked by Spain, 96-59, on August 16. They haven’t been heard from since…

19. Israel – How badly does Team Israel need Omri Casspi? Very. In defeating Poland (without Marcin Gortat and Maciej Lampe), this side “improved” to 2-5 in warmup games, an ominous sign for the underdog in Eurobasket’s “group of death.” Up next: red-hot Russia on Wednesday night.

20. Poland – As expected, playing without Marcin Gortat is painful for Team Poland, which went 1-2 in the Trofeo Tassoni, managing to beat only Bosnia & Herzegovina. Worse yet, they decisively dropped the opener of the Israel-based leg in the European Basketball Tour against the hosts on Sunday. And they get Russia on Tuesday night.

21. Bosnia & Herzegovina – They’re probably still buzzing in Bosnia about the national team’s win over Italy in the Trofeo Tassoni tournament last week; all the better to forget an ugly 87-68 loss to Poland the next day…

22. Montenegro – Nikola Pekovic and Omar Cook are helping Montenegro get some good results, including a 78-72 win over Team New Zealand in the Trofej Makedonija tourney on Sunday. However, this marks just the second win this summer for the side; the sole other victory came against FYR Macedonia in the Adecco Cup.

23. FYR Macedonia – FYR Macedonia finally snapped out of its tailspin on Saturday by taking out Montenegro, 79-74, in the first game of the 2011 Trofej Makedonija tournament after a woeful 0-3 performance in the Adecco Cup. BiE, for one, is just happy to see Bo McCalebb back on the court for FYR Macedonia…

24. Latvia – Not ready for prime time? Team Latvia is 0-4 in August with losses to Lithuania, Russia twice and Slovenia. If only Andris Biedrins were here … well, they’d probably still be 0-4, but a more competitive 0-4.
 
I really think that we'll see a lots of surprises. Outside of Spain as clear favourite I see lots of teams close to each other. Preparation games really tell nothing imo as we have seen several times in the past.
 
http://www.ballineurope.com/national-teams/eurobasket-power-rankings-8765/

EUROBASKET 2011 POWER RANKINGS: FIRST TAKE
EUROBASKET 2011, LATEST NEWS, NATIONAL TEAMS

As just nine days remain until Eurobasket 2011 tips off in Lithuania, BallinEurope today takes a look back at the performances of the two dozen teams slated to compete in the big tournament and deploys some good old power rankings – and lotsa highlight clips from friendlies and tourneys played throughout The Continent.

Once again, a reminder to readers: These ratings are based only on how the teams are trending and are no indication of prognostication for Eurobasket. (The BallinEurope Fearless Predictions™ will be released soon enough…)

1. Spain – Yes, they lost to Lithuania in the grand opening of Kauno Arena, but BiE is sticking with Team Spain in the top spot. As defending Eurobasket champions, this team is chasing history and public perception has them on the rise, i.e. “El rival de España en el Eurobasket es España.” Plus, the side got back on track in tournament warmups, dispatching Slovenia on Sunday despite shooting 2-of-10 on threes and under 66% (21-of-32) from the free-throw line.

2. Greece – What controversy? Team Greece is up to their old tricks in European play – with or without Ioannis Bourousis and Sofoklis Schortsanitis – going 3-0 at the BEKO Supercup tournament over Turkey, Belgium and Germany; earning a like mark against Russia, Israel and Poland in the European Basketball Tour 2011 in Cyprus; and finishing 2-1 in the Trofeo Tassoni against Bosnia & Herzegovina, Italy and Poland. This is an interesting Greek team, with more of an emphasis on speed than in recent years, but they look just as good early on.

3. Russia – Timofey Mozgov may have washed out of New York last season, but he’s been right at home with Team Russia, going for 18- and 16-point performances to lead the way in a pair of August victories over Team Lithuania. And Andrei Kirilenko doesn’t appear to have missed a beat, either, as Russia’s enjoying a 4-0 run – though that includes two wins over Latvia – since losing to Greece on August 7, and they’re 6-1 for the month.

4. France – Since getting smoked by Spain on August 10, France is 6-0 after cruising through the London Invitational Tournament undefeated. Les Bleus’ impressive play was capped with a win over Serbia, as Tony Parker contributed a huge 24-point, six-rebound, three-assist performance. With Joakim Noah rounding into shape, this could be the best French team in six years.

5. Lithuania – Sure, the Eurobasket hosts are just 2-2 since playing Spain in Madrid on August 14, but if the debut game in Kauno is any indication, Lithuania is simply not to be trifled with in the tourney. Once again, Lithuania appears to be bringing a squad with insufficient height and few playmakers on paper, but this team is living proof of the old cliché’s veracity: “They don’t play the games on paper.”

While the star of this show is Jonas Valanciunas, it was nice to see a spreading the wealth to the likes of Mantas Kalnietis and Simas Jasaitis against the Spaniards as Lithuania continually demonstrated nifty passing to the tune of 20 assists; in the recent loss to Russia, Paulius Jankunas and Rimantas Kaukenas were top scorers. Beware this team’s depth – and if you’re a Lithuania fan, pray for the speedy return of Robertas Javtokas and Darius Songaila.

6. Croatia – With an impressive-enough second-place showing in the Adecco Ex-Yu Cup registered, BiE wondered if Team Croatia would be ready to play against more powerful teams after the team’s uneven, lackluster play in the first two games of the London Invitational Tournament. Problems were rife: Croatia shot a dismal 1-of-17 on threes versus France as they collapsed in the second half, while in their stunning 12-point loss to Australia going just 16-of-50 inside the arc and scoring 19 points in the first half. One has to be concerned … what’s that? They took the last three in London, including avenging the loss to Serbia in the Adecco? All right then.

7. Serbia – While Team Serbia looked impressive in the Adecco Cup, they’ve since reversed paths with Croatia, losing to France and Australia in London while requiring a fourth-quarter comeback to overcome Britain in the London Invitational Tournament. They’ll certainly come to play at Eurobasket but for now … ouch.

8. Germany – Dirk Nowitzki’s team performed well enough as they hosted the BEKO Supercup tournament, closing things out with a win over Turkey; German fans had to be particularly cheered by the play of Chris Kaman in the third-place game, as he led all scorers with 16. This chased the German win of the Spor Toto World Cup tournament, in which Deutschland held on to earn an impressive victory over Serbia.

9. Italy – So let’s see … Italia, with its collection of NBA players, Euroleaguers and the odd naturalized citizen or two, first loses to Bosnia & Herzegovina in the opener of the Trofeo Tassoni tournament in Rimini, squeaks past Poland in the second game, and then manhandles Greece for an impressive 82-73, tourney-winning victory. In other words, Team Italy is up to its old unpredictable tricks again.

10. Turkey – Ah, fickle Turkey. Entering the summer with more big men than an NFL team and a roster as good as anything they’ve put on the floor in a decade, Team Turkey was flat-out disappointing in the BEKO Supercup, losing to Serbia early and dropping the final game to Chris Kaman (!) and Germany. Enes Kanter has once again been as good as advertised in friendly matches, but ball movement has generally been slack in August matches.

11. Slovenia – Matjaz Smodis, still at the peak of his game, may not be enough for Team Slovenia to compete with the big boys … of course, BiE has underestimated them in the past. After leading his side to a third-place finish in the Adecco Cup tournament – though in the team’s best game, all they could do was keep things competitive with Croatia – Smodis wasn’t enough this weekend as the Slovenians could only hang with Team Spain through one quarter before too much of the Gasol Brothers rapidly put the game out of reach. Goran “The Dragon” Dragic still appears to be a bit sleepy as well; worse yet, Miha Zupan, squad member since 2006, has been declared out of the Eurobasket tournament.

12. Georgia – Georgia is looking tuned up after going 3-0 in the inaugural Eurojam basketball tournament, though can Israel, Netherlands and Villanova University really be considered a challenge?

13. Ukraine – Team Ukraine most recently bagged a nice 81-67 win against Germany to close out the Spor Toto World Cup tournament there, but a couple of caveats should be applied: Germany, not needing to win the game to take the round-robin competition, sat Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Kaman for most of the 40 minutes; secondly, Ukraine still finished last on the table.

14. Finland

15. Portugal – Sure, beating up on Team Hungary in the Eurocup Qualifying Round is no big deal for either side, but surely the adrenaline is flowing in these countries. Finland gets the edge here, having topped Portugal in a squeaker in pool play, but the teams meet again on Wednesday.

16. Great Britain – BiE has always been a proponent of awarding Team Britain an automatic bid to the basketball tournament for the 2012 Olympic Games by dint of the country’s status as host. After the London Invitational, however, BiE’s of two minds about FIBA worries regarding the state of British Basketball. On the one hand, Britain played well enough in losses to Australia (if you don’t mind the defense giving up 95 points to a slower team) and Serbia (even outrebounding the Serbs 41-38), but these guys still kinda feel like also-rans.

While Team Britain cannot be blamed for the NBA/FIBA insurance snafu keeping Ben Gordon out of international play in 2011, one can’t help but guess that the challenge will be limited to winning a single game in Group A. Is this really an Olympic qualifier?

(P.S. You gotta love the way Joel Freeland’s been playing lately.)

17. Belgium – Bad news/good news about Belgium in the BEKO Supercup: The bad news is that the team went 0-3 in tourney against fellow Eurobasketeers Germany, Turkey and Greece; the good news is that every game was close, with Belgian losses of six, six and nine points. Yes, that *is* the good news.

18. Bulgaria – After going 1-2 and defeating only an “exhausted” Israel side in the European Basketball Tour, Bulgaria was spanked by Spain, 96-59, on August 16. They haven’t been heard from since…

19. Israel – How badly does Team Israel need Omri Casspi? Very. In defeating Poland (without Marcin Gortat and Maciej Lampe), this side “improved” to 2-5 in warmup games, an ominous sign for the underdog in Eurobasket’s “group of death.” Up next: red-hot Russia on Wednesday night.

20. Poland – As expected, playing without Marcin Gortat is painful for Team Poland, which went 1-2 in the Trofeo Tassoni, managing to beat only Bosnia & Herzegovina. Worse yet, they decisively dropped the opener of the Israel-based leg in the European Basketball Tour against the hosts on Sunday. And they get Russia on Tuesday night.

21. Bosnia & Herzegovina – They’re probably still buzzing in Bosnia about the national team’s win over Italy in the Trofeo Tassoni tournament last week; all the better to forget an ugly 87-68 loss to Poland the next day…

22. Montenegro – Nikola Pekovic and Omar Cook are helping Montenegro get some good results, including a 78-72 win over Team New Zealand in the Trofej Makedonija tourney on Sunday. However, this marks just the second win this summer for the side; the sole other victory came against FYR Macedonia in the Adecco Cup.

23. FYR Macedonia – FYR Macedonia finally snapped out of its tailspin on Saturday by taking out Montenegro, 79-74, in the first game of the 2011 Trofej Makedonija tournament after a woeful 0-3 performance in the Adecco Cup. BiE, for one, is just happy to see Bo McCalebb back on the court for FYR Macedonia…

24. Latvia – Not ready for prime time? Team Latvia is 0-4 in August with losses to Lithuania, Russia twice and Slovenia. If only Andris Biedrins were here … well, they’d probably still be 0-4, but a more competitive 0-4.



LOL, this is hilarious reading. Except for 1st Spain and 24th Latvia, they missed just about everything.

22th Montenegro, OMG, this is hilarious, they're maybe even top 10
9th Italy - team that was bitch slapped by Montenegro easily
12th Georgia, in which parallel universe?
6th Croatia and 11th Slovenia, it's completely opposite
4th France, maybe in whining and yapping to referees
2nd Greece - no comment, I commented GRE NT already too much
14th Finland and 15th Hungary :eek: :eek: :eek:

List goes and goes ... but I had enough of laugh

I think those are some Americans that have absolutely no clue (really absolutely) about European basket, so they just put results of friendly games in computer and took results out of that. Their list is remarkably similar to ACB list
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77786

But ACB calls it just statistics, while those amateurs from that site calls it power ranking.

Good job to post it, now I know I always must avoid that site.
 
LOL, this is hilarious reading. Except for 1st Spain and 24th Latvia, they missed just about everything.

22th Montenegro, OMG, this is hilarious, they're maybe even top 10
9th Italy - team that was bitch slapped by Montenegro easily
12th Georgia, in which parallel universe?
6th Croatia and 11th Slovenia, it's completely opposite
4th France, maybe in whining and yapping to referees
2nd Greece - no comment, I commented GRE NT already too much
14th Finland and 15th Hungary :eek: :eek: :eek:

List goes and goes ... but I had enough of laugh

I think those are some Americans that have absolutely no clue (really absolutely) about European basket, so they just put results of friendly games
in computer and took results out of that. Their list is remarkably similar to ACB list
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77786

But ACB calls it just statistics, while those amateurs from that site calls it power ranking.

Good job to post it, now I know I always must avoid that site.

LOL
ACB states just the results from friendly games my friend. Not to mention that this guy also ranks according to friendly games.
 
LOL
ACB states just the results from friendly games my friend. Not to mention that this guy also ranks according to friendly games.

:confused:

Yes, that is what I said too. ACB just provides numbers (big thanks to them), they claim no conclusions from it. Just statistics.

That other site copies that numbers and says it is their "power rankings".
 
Guess who's clueless...

Well, if they rank Greece is 2nd at Montenegro is 22nd, that is behind clueless.
Those are two very comparable teams. Reason is of course, that Montenegro comes with complete roster and Greece without 10 or so players (though many of them are old and semi-retired from NT) . But that is Greek problem, no one's others.

And you are double clueless.
1) You don't see their "power rankings" are funny, if not absurd
2) You don't see it even after I picture it to you
 
ACB ranking
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77911

Pos Selección Resultado lógico
1 España En la final
2 Serbia En la final
3 Lituania Semifinales
4 Alemania Semifinales
5 Turquía Eliminado en 2ª ronda
6 Eslovenia Cuartos de final
7 Rusia Cuartos de final
8 Grecia Cuartos de final
9 Croacia Cuartos de final
10 Francia Eliminado en 2ª ronda
11 Italia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
12 Montenegro Eliminado en 2ª ronda
13 Gran Bretaña Eliminado en 1ª ronda
14 Israel Eliminado en 1ª ronda
15 Macedonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
16 Ucrania Eliminado en 2ª ronda
17 Bosnia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
18 Georgia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
19 Bélgica Eliminado en 1ª ronda
20 Bulgaria Eliminado en 1ª ronda
21 Polonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
22 Letonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
23 Finlandia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
24 Portugal Eliminado en 1ª ronda

I've some doubts about Germany, France and Turkey classifications... :rolleyes:
 
Well, if they rank Greece is 2nd at Montenegro is 22nd, that is behind clueless.
Those are two very comparable teams. Reason is of course, that Montenegro comes with complete roster and Greece without 10 or so players (though many of them are old and semi-retired from NT) . But that is Greek problem, no one's others.

And you are double clueless.
1) You don't see their "power rankings" are funny, if not absurd
2) You don't see it even after I picture it to you

1. You talk like you're some basketball expert and whatever you say is the truth revealed from above.
2. BallinEurope is one of the best sites around for basketball.
3. Your "lucky punch" theory is one of the stupidest things ever written here. The 62-38 game a couple of days ago, just proved how stupid it is/you are.
 
ACB ranking
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77911



I've some doubts about Germany, France and Turkey classifications... :rolleyes:

This ranking is laughable.
4. Germany. Really ?
5.Turkey but also "Eliminado en 2ª ronda"
7.The strong Russia :eek:
8.Greece (lower than Germany and Turkey)
10. France :eek:

It seems like 2 predictions. One before preparation games and at the right an updated version after the games.

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I was wrong about the updated version. France is "Eliminado en 2ª ronda" also :eek: This ranking is completely inconsistent.
 
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ACB ranking
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77911



I've some doubts about Germany, France and Turkey classifications... :rolleyes:

i dont udnerstand all that trust on germany,for me it's already so much whether they will pass the first round, I think they are worse than us too because it is true that they have a phenomenon like nowitzky,but his couple of nba is also lower than the trio nbaers of Italy,then other players like benzing,jagla,hamman,pless olbrecht last years losed with angola in world championship,so i think that the supporting cast of italy is better than germany's supporting cast IMO..:rolleyes:

i also disagree on final placemnt of turkey,i agree on italy instead...
 
A while ago when I had one of those "my opinion against the world" occasions, one member asked me if I believe I know more about basketball than Obradović and Ivković :D the answer of course remains no, but this time I'd add just as most of regular posters at IBN, I at least know more about bbal than BiE writers.

Don't really want to go with Slovenia this, Slovenia that... I can go with lot's of options just by saying stuff as: "I respectfully disagree" "I believe that's not really the case" or "I think you're wrong"...
BUT (!!!!)... whoever ranked Greece 2nd and Turkey or Italy over Slovenia judging on these preparation games... the absolute winner of course: Montenegro 22nd LMFAO!!!?!!! :D ...(I won't go with Finland, Hungary, BiH, or even Latvia...)... once again whoever really considers that, must either be from some other planet, not actually be a "supposedly serious bball blog" writer, bluffing and judge teams based on boxscores instead of video footage or lacks basic understanding of bball to make a distant call about it :D

These ratings are based only on how the teams are trending and are no indication of prognostication for Eurobasket.
thanks for a good laugh. Most guys are trying to figure out wth is one team possibly able to show, yet you guys are able to see the trend here.... speechless :D

If that ranking was from some of the guys here, I'd try to be polite and quiet, but c'mmon, people read BiE believing both writers have done their homework and paid attention to what they're writing, so they don't have to.


It doesn't even have a point to bet your very own freaking left testicle when Montenegro 22nd is in question :D ...unbelievable...
 
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Hell has descended because of a long, glamourous and funny article.

Isn't it obvious that the writing offends everyone in some way?
 
This article is all about stats, a compilation related to preparation games. Teams are ordered according to their preparation results. Simple.
This is based on the opinions of several ACB.COM analysts. Teams are ordered by strength (also subjective), but the "logical classification" (3rd column) doesn't match because of the opponents each team will face. For example, Turkey has a lot of chances of getting eliminated in the 2nd group phase (as they will probably start it with 0-2), despite being the 5th best team for them.
 
ACB ranking
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=77911
Pos Selección Resultado lógico
1 España En la final
2 Serbia En la final
3 Lituania Semifinales
4 Alemania Semifinales
5 Turquía Eliminado en 2ª ronda
6 Eslovenia Cuartos de final
7 Rusia Cuartos de final
8 Grecia Cuartos de final
9 Croacia Cuartos de final
10 Francia Eliminado en 2ª ronda
11 Italia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
12 Montenegro Eliminado en 2ª ronda
13 Gran Bretaña Eliminado en 1ª ronda
14 Israel Eliminado en 1ª ronda
15 Macedonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
16 Ucrania Eliminado en 2ª ronda
17 Bosnia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
18 Georgia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
19 Bélgica Eliminado en 1ª ronda
20 Bulgaria Eliminado en 1ª ronda
21 Polonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
22 Letonia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
23 Finlandia Eliminado en 1ª ronda
24 Portugal Eliminado en 1ª ronda

I've some doubts about Germany, France and Turkey classifications... :rolleyes:

These are actually very good predictions.
I would surely swap Lithuania and Turkey.
Plus maybe swap Russia and Germany, but that is close.

Also two irrelevant things
- I think Montenegro is slightly better than Croatia
- Ukraine is hardly the best among minnows from Group D (no Gladyr, no clue American coach), maybe Belgium is best choice for 3rd in that group
 
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