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Agree. Butkevicius looks bleak... definetly not a lock. Would understands Radzevičius pick.
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Radzevicius ir pretty nice, but we already have overload of offensive wings in Grigonis, Sirvydis, R. Giedraitis, Kuzminskas.
If Butkevicius is at least 80% ready, he is needed. He can still tune up. And give what NT badly needs. Specially after you know what.
If Butkevicius is at least 80% ready, he is needed. He can still tune up. And give what NT badly needs. Specially after you know what.
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Is Jonas Valančiūnas just burned out mentally?
And what's going to be the composition of the team against Lebanon on Monday?
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Can someone please post the list of players invited to the Team Lietuva 2024 training camp? And when and where is the training camp? I can't find the information on either Basketnews.lt or Krepsinis.net.
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Can someone please post the list of players invited to the Team Lietuva 2024 training camp? And when and where is the training camp? I can't find the information on either Basketnews.lt or Krepsinis.net.
https://x.com/ltu_basketball/status/1793967945330377185/photo/1
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Hi guys.In your opinion J-Val will be in Puerto Rico or not?
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I hope not.
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Happy for Sirvydis turning out into really good player. Tons of rumors around him, like Barca even, but I hope he has a deal with Zalgiris and becomes one of the best players from the scratch. Dude's been 20ppg in Eurocup kinda player and now 20ppg in LKL playoffs type of player. Hope his NT campaign will be nice, but when Maksvytis rules you never know. He might bring Dimsa instead. It's amazing in what kind of reality we are living with Maksvytis and have to pretend it's all normal.
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Nothing much to take from first game. The team looked rustier than last summer. I guess this time they took more serious physical preps. Hands and legs heavy, shots didn't fall for most player. I was looking at Marciulionis and Tubelis mostly. First, had some kind of bruise and injury, seems far away from his top shape, heavy and lethargic, but provided legit defense and facilitation. Main issues with Marciulionis, he has to demand the ball more, go deeper with his drives and be more active off the ball. With Tubelis the main problem that he loses too many defensive positions. Post defense is work in progress.
Sargiunas looks good, but I don't think he has physicality to be in the main NT, or that he's needed.
I think Marciulionis, Tubelis, Bendzius should receive the invitation to the main camp.
Sargiunas looks good, but I don't think he has physicality to be in the main NT, or that he's needed.
I think Marciulionis, Tubelis, Bendzius should receive the invitation to the main camp.
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Only one from that C team have chances making roster is Tubelis
Tubelis place in NT will depend on Valanciunas plays or not.
All other its super long shots. Bendzius i dont see how player can be taken to NT when he didnt play basketball for entire season.
Its not 2023 where half of top 10 wasnt playing. 2024 summer is diffrent level players will be in main camp
Tubelis place in NT will depend on Valanciunas plays or not.
All other its super long shots. Bendzius i dont see how player can be taken to NT when he didnt play basketball for entire season.
Its not 2023 where half of top 10 wasnt playing. 2024 summer is diffrent level players will be in main camp
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If bendzius will look well, he will be invited.
Lekavicius vs Marciulionis is interesting option. You choose scoring vs defense/passing.
Purlys summarized on Marciulionis perfectly here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWkfCBlK80g&ab_channel=O,Dangau!
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Marciulionis looked worse than Sargiunas or Bieliauskas. Compare to possible lkl finals mvp is just clearly biased fan boy talks that dont understand reality of situation.
I told you manny times U-23 rule and olympic cycles how it works.
2025 summer where new blood will be brought to Nt camps preparing them for 2028 olympics.
Tubelis is lower tallent wise than Jonas 2012/Domas 2016 at that age,but he can be put in generational tallent group and make the team already in 2024.
1 youngster future NT leader taken per Olympic summer: Jonas 2012,Domas 2016,Jokubaitis 2020 and maybe Tubelis 2024 u23 looks more less right what history was doing before too.
But real rebuilding will start in 2025. In 2024 coach will go with battle tested dudes from 2019-2023 fiba championships
I told you manny times U-23 rule and olympic cycles how it works.
2025 summer where new blood will be brought to Nt camps preparing them for 2028 olympics.
Tubelis is lower tallent wise than Jonas 2012/Domas 2016 at that age,but he can be put in generational tallent group and make the team already in 2024.
1 youngster future NT leader taken per Olympic summer: Jonas 2012,Domas 2016,Jokubaitis 2020 and maybe Tubelis 2024 u23 looks more less right what history was doing before too.
But real rebuilding will start in 2025. In 2024 coach will go with battle tested dudes from 2019-2023 fiba championships
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Listen, if you don't understand basketball, better don't watch If you didn't see anything what Marciulionis offers, you're just a blind as BB observer. Nothing to discuss with you if Beliauskas to you was better. Go listen to what Tomas Purlys Said. I assure you, he sees more than you do. Because you very often you don't see anything.
Marciulionis should be invited to the main camp and there we will see his level when he will be fully prepared to show it. Now he's banged up as Maksvytis said and it's obvious he's not into playing shape yet. And nevertheless he still showed some of tremendous passing culture and defensive culture where Lekavicius never was even close ever in his career.
Generrational talent blah blah...what generational talent? What are you talking about? Tubelis is generational talent? You're completely lost Marciulionis and Tubelis have chances to make NT 2024 because of their position, that's all. No-one is comparing them with JV or Domas. Even though even they are not pure generational talents. Arvydas Sabonis was generational talent.
If you didn't see anything what Marciulionis offers, you're just a blind as BB observer. Nothing to discuss with you if Beliauskas to you was better. Go listen to what Tomas Purlys Said. I assure you, he sees more than you do. Because you very often you don't see anything.Marciulionis should be invited to the main camp and there we will see his level when he will be fully prepared to show it. Now he's banged up as Maksvytis said and it's obvious he's not into playing shape yet. And nevertheless he still showed some of tremendous passing culture and defensive culture where Lekavicius never was even close ever in his career.
Generrational talent blah blah...what generational talent?
What are you talking about? Tubelis is generational talent? You're completely lost Marciulionis and Tubelis have chances to make NT 2024 because of their position, that's all. No-one is comparing them with JV or Domas. Even though even they are not pure generational talents. Arvydas Sabonis was generational talent.
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I wont go to same ridiculous discusion about ncaa student. NO top 10 teams is using ncaa students in 2020s fiba that all i need to know.
Generational tallent for lithuania small size basketball pool yes Tubelis at 22 is generational. Our country get such level player u-23 one such kid in 3-4 years. So i put him in my generational group
Dont believe than most like 99% of 2024 Olympic roster players will be from 2019-2023 fiba championship rosters ? dont worry soon you will see that
Like you will see in 2025 summer way more rookie in NT than in olympic year. To start preparing them for next olympics in 2028.It happens naturally.
Thats how olympic cycles works.
Generational tallent for lithuania small size basketball pool yes Tubelis at 22 is generational. Our country get such level player u-23 one such kid in 3-4 years. So i put him in my generational group
Dont believe than most like 99% of 2024 Olympic roster players will be from 2019-2023 fiba championship rosters ? dont worry soon you will see that
Like you will see in 2025 summer way more rookie in NT than in olympic year. To start preparing them for next olympics in 2028.It happens naturally.
Thats how olympic cycles works.
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You get go where ever you want, just don't write bullshit. That is not tolerated. If can't see a single nice thing about Marciulionis, like even in that bleak previous game, you better go watch ice hokey or whatever.
And again, nonsense. Every 3-4 years? Maybe it has been the case with elite euro players in certain stretch (like from 1980 to 1998), but not with generational talents as Sabonis, Dirk, Pau, Doncic, SGA, Jokic. You use false term. Like you don't call oranges apples.
I will say you this. Taking from 1998 gen. Sedekerskis, Brazdeikis, Jokubaitis, Sirvydis, D. Giedraitis, Tubelis, Rubstavicius, Marciulionis, Lelevicius, Krivas, Murauskas, Indrusaitis, Juzenas, Raupelis, Buika, Butajevas are all from the same tier talents - that is elite Euro talents. That's all. Off course more or less, they are not exactly equal, but they are all just elite European prospects. They are not 100% NBA material (well, Krivas is projected as a lottery pick, so maybe we should exclude him to next tier, but we'll see, there's only Givoni yet), they are not prodigies, they are not generational talents. So what you're saying is that around 16-18 generational talents coming fro Lithuania in 9 years. Basically 2 generational talents per year. You do get it that it is false right?Simply this stretch is extremely wealthy of elite talents and that's why now at least one elite new talent joins NT every summer or so. And in some 2025 it could be real burst of new comers.
And I didn't included only 2 names. Two best prospects in the country. Clear and obvious NBA talent material. Buzelis and Jakucionis. They can be called generational talents or close to that. They bring special skill, talent and upside, leadership.
Tubelis is just another elite prospect. Just like say Jankunas, Lavrinovc bros, Songaila, Sedekerskis and such. Those are not generational talents.
My point is not that Lekavicius won't be selected. My point is that Marciulionis is legitimate competitor for the position and he will show it in upcoming 2 games (he already showed it). Lekavicius will be taken 90%, but to say that Marciulionis didn't show anything is simply false. It means you can't see what is needed for PG spot and you just blind towards him. But that's often the case with you. You were saying Sirvydis is lost and he's degenerate or something because of tatoo,, so, we all know your bullshit here. You also said Augustas will be like T. Sabonis, we remember that. As well as Skucas taking down Doncic and other amazing content.
And again, nonsense. Every 3-4 years? Maybe it has been the case with elite euro players in certain stretch (like from 1980 to 1998), but not with generational talents as Sabonis, Dirk, Pau, Doncic, SGA, Jokic. You use false term. Like you don't call oranges apples.
I will say you this. Taking from 1998 gen. Sedekerskis, Brazdeikis, Jokubaitis, Sirvydis, D. Giedraitis, Tubelis, Rubstavicius, Marciulionis, Lelevicius, Krivas, Murauskas, Indrusaitis, Juzenas, Raupelis, Buika, Butajevas are all from the same tier talents - that is elite Euro talents. That's all. Off course more or less, they are not exactly equal, but they are all just elite European prospects. They are not 100% NBA material (well, Krivas is projected as a lottery pick, so maybe we should exclude him to next tier, but we'll see, there's only Givoni yet), they are not prodigies, they are not generational talents. So what you're saying is that around 16-18 generational talents coming fro Lithuania in 9 years. Basically 2 generational talents per year. You do get it that it is false right?Simply this stretch is extremely wealthy of elite talents and that's why now at least one elite new talent joins NT every summer or so. And in some 2025 it could be real burst of new comers.
And I didn't included only 2 names. Two best prospects in the country. Clear and obvious NBA talent material. Buzelis and Jakucionis. They can be called generational talents or close to that. They bring special skill, talent and upside, leadership.
Tubelis is just another elite prospect. Just like say Jankunas, Lavrinovc bros, Songaila, Sedekerskis and such. Those are not generational talents.
My point is not that Lekavicius won't be selected. My point is that Marciulionis is legitimate competitor for the position and he will show it in upcoming 2 games (he already showed it). Lekavicius will be taken 90%, but to say that Marciulionis didn't show anything is simply false. It means you can't see what is needed for PG spot and you just blind towards him. But that's often the case with you. You were saying Sirvydis is lost and he's degenerate or something because of tatoo,, so, we all know your bullshit here. You also said Augustas will be like T. Sabonis, we remember that. As well as Skucas taking down Doncic and other amazing content.
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Im talking about lithuania basketball pool? doesnt matter how you call generational,special,unique,X or alpha the point is not how you call them
Point that Lithuania getting one u-23 kid that is ready to play and makes our NT . Lithuania as country getting such u-23 one kid per 3-4 years that what recent history says.
Thats was my point and i named those players. Who achieved that not in theory,but in reality !
No 2020s fiba top 10 rosters shows that ncaa students in not real candidates.Because Ncaa is weakest it ever was and fiba coaches dont trust those inexperienced players.
yesterday game versus joke Liban NT:
Marciulionis 20min 1pts and 6 asists 0/4 brick shooting
Sargiunas 23min 15pts+9asist and 4 made 3pointers
can ncaa student firstly outperform Neptunas guard before becoming candidate vs our euroleague players ?
He talking about some kind theories,passing cultures our NT need results now in 3 weeks and take mentally ready guards that will make wide open jumpers when 15k arena will be againts them after opponents double team Sabonis
Like 6 season euroleague player + 3 fiba tournament experience guards ale Lekavicius is way more ready to make those shots in hostile arena than some ncaa student ? yes 100%
Point that Lithuania getting one u-23 kid that is ready to play and makes our NT . Lithuania as country getting such u-23 one kid per 3-4 years that what recent history says.
Thats was my point and i named those players. Who achieved that not in theory,but in reality !
No 2020s fiba top 10 rosters shows that ncaa students in not real candidates.Because Ncaa is weakest it ever was and fiba coaches dont trust those inexperienced players.
yesterday game versus joke Liban NT:
Marciulionis 20min 1pts and 6 asists 0/4 brick shooting
Sargiunas 23min 15pts+9asist and 4 made 3pointers
can ncaa student firstly outperform Neptunas guard before becoming candidate vs our euroleague players ?
He talking about some kind theories,passing cultures our NT need results now in 3 weeks and take mentally ready guards that will make wide open jumpers when 15k arena will be againts them after opponents double team Sabonis
Like 6 season euroleague player + 3 fiba tournament experience guards ale Lekavicius is way more ready to make those shots in hostile arena than some ncaa student ? yes 100%
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In this Olympic cycle alone, Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis, Sirvydis, Sedekerskis joined NT as young elite players. So forget that stupid idea that you get one elite player per Olympic cycle. That's false by all means. absolute false. Maybe except 2017-2021.
F.e. 2001-2004 we had Kaukenas, Siskauskas, Macijauskas, Lavrinovic bros, Javtokas and so on joining. Something like that will happen in 2025-2028 cycle. Like tons of elite players will join. So you're just trying to put the reality into completely false idea, and why do you need that, specially when it's false? Some kind of subversive, perverse form or pleasure, maybe? It only this way it would make sense.
I get what yous saying, but call it elite, not generational talent. Generational talent is either game changing talent - like it was Magic, Jordan, Shaq, Lebron and so on (next is Wemby). Or - A generational player is the 1-3 players that define that particular generation's style of play and the best 1-3 players during that time, who are dominant for a sustained period of time.
If we would take the former, we don't have a single generational talents. Only maybe had Arvydas Sabonis who had been changing international basketball and probably could change few things in NBA if gotten there younger.
If we take the latter (from LTU perspective) than we have Sabonis, Valanciunas as generational talents. But Tubelis will never be 1-3 best player of LTU in any time. If you would ask me today, it would be Buzelis and Jakucionis as next generational talents and maybe one of Jokubaitis/Rubstavicius/Sirvydis/Indrusaitis, but that's just my guess. I simply don't see how Tubelis could be 1-3 best player with all the talent that is coming.
You have to watch BB. Marciulionis was leading the game nicely. No-one is even close in terms of passing and defense. All those average players as Sargiunas, was getting open looks cause Marciulionis dished the ball nicely, and not all the great passes turn into assists. He is facilitation machine and defensive machine and he will show more offense when tune up. Watch BB, don't turn your self into Hepcat. Sargiunas was most efficient last summer too, but that doesn't mean he's better player than Sirvydis.
F.e. 2001-2004 we had Kaukenas, Siskauskas, Macijauskas, Lavrinovic bros, Javtokas and so on joining. Something like that will happen in 2025-2028 cycle. Like tons of elite players will join. So you're just trying to put the reality into completely false idea, and why do you need that, specially when it's false? Some kind of subversive, perverse form or pleasure, maybe? It only this way it would make sense.
I get what yous saying, but call it elite, not generational talent. Generational talent is either game changing talent - like it was Magic, Jordan, Shaq, Lebron and so on (next is Wemby). Or - A generational player is the 1-3 players that define that particular generation's style of play and the best 1-3 players during that time, who are dominant for a sustained period of time.
If we would take the former, we don't have a single generational talents. Only maybe had Arvydas Sabonis who had been changing international basketball and probably could change few things in NBA if gotten there younger.
If we take the latter (from LTU perspective) than we have Sabonis, Valanciunas as generational talents. But Tubelis will never be 1-3 best player of LTU in any time. If you would ask me today, it would be Buzelis and Jakucionis as next generational talents and maybe one of Jokubaitis/Rubstavicius/Sirvydis/Indrusaitis, but that's just my guess. I simply don't see how Tubelis could be 1-3 best player with all the talent that is coming.
You have to watch BB. Marciulionis was leading the game nicely. No-one is even close in terms of passing and defense. All those average players as Sargiunas, was getting open looks cause Marciulionis dished the ball nicely, and not all the great passes turn into assists. He is facilitation machine and defensive machine and he will show more offense when tune up. Watch BB, don't turn your self into Hepcat. Sargiunas was most efficient last summer too, but that doesn't mean he's better player than Sirvydis.
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I said my point and if you still dont get it ok i dont care.
I believe Tubelis at 22 (U-23) is top 5 young age lithuania player in 2012-2024 era. So putting him in same basket with Valanciunas,Sabonis,Jokubaitis
Because they made NT not because there was empty place in that position,but because they already were so good it was impossible to ignore.
You wanna get in dictionary words meanings and not what point was about ok.
I repeat yesterday game versus joke Liban NT:
Marciulionis 20min 1pts and 6 asists 0/4 brick shooting
Sargiunas 23min 15pts+9asist and 4 made 3pointers
can ncaa student firstly outperform Neptunas guard before becoming candidate vs our euroleague players ?
We dont need theories now,we need results on the floor.
Because do or die game is in 3 weeks. If Ncaa student look worse than Neptunas guards, no he is not even close to being a candidate helping our NT in Puerturico fighting Alvarado or leading euroleague pts scorer.
I believe Tubelis at 22 (U-23) is top 5 young age lithuania player in 2012-2024 era. So putting him in same basket with Valanciunas,Sabonis,Jokubaitis
Because they made NT not because there was empty place in that position,but because they already were so good it was impossible to ignore.
You wanna get in dictionary words meanings and not what point was about ok.
I repeat yesterday game versus joke Liban NT:
Marciulionis 20min 1pts and 6 asists 0/4 brick shooting
Sargiunas 23min 15pts+9asist and 4 made 3pointers
can ncaa student firstly outperform Neptunas guard before becoming candidate vs our euroleague players ?
We dont need theories now,we need results on the floor.
Because do or die game is in 3 weeks. If Ncaa student look worse than Neptunas guards, no he is not even close to being a candidate helping our NT in Puerturico fighting Alvarado or leading euroleague pts scorer.