2024 Lithuanian NT

[Dirtyh2]

Yeah, Sabonis' and Brazdeikis' examples and Karnisovas presence are good things. Hope to see him next year and really hope that LTU are playing their group stage in Finland. 2011 I said in Kaunas to everyone that we're getting better and everyone though it was a joke. Next summer it's time to say that I told you so

Offtopic but you really should check out Miikka Muurinen. Alreaydy played this summer. IDK what you meant by Veesaar but he is Estonian.

 

[Straight forward2]

Yeah, Sabonis' and Brazdeikis' examples and Karnisovas presence are good things. Hope to see him next year and really hope that LTU are playing their group stage in Finland. 2011 I said in Kaunas to everyone that we're getting better and everyone though it was a joke. Next summer it's time to say that I told you so

Offtopic but you really should check out Miikka Muurinen. Alreaydy played this summer. IDK what you meant by Veesaar but he is Estonian.

Oh, sorry, I always mix Estonia/Finland in my head Too much online time lately. I will check this guy Muurinen later. And always support Estonia, Finland, their basketball development.

 

[zalias2]

. I see no problem here. We're not fucking China. This is just frustration after sucking cocks only. Can you actually blame Domas for a good working ethics? Come on, man. IDK, to me it's about the talent. If we build around total role player who wouldn't even play for PAO in the playoffs generally, what do you expect? That he would beat legitimate NBA players as Alvarado?

there is a difference between celebrating after you win something and after you barely squeeze out a win against a third world national team. by this logic they shouldn't even go to the next tournament because there are national teams with more talent

 

[Straight forward2]

there is a difference between celebrating after you win something and after you barely squeeze out a win against a third world national team. by this logic they shouldn't even go to the next tournament because there are national teams with more talent

OK, so I read now Tapinas post in facebook. It would be really interesting to know who did what exactly, cause obviously it wasn't the whole team just some single individuals. If this would come out for a fact, I think we should question the future of those individuals in the NT. Unless it's Jokubaitis, cause he played well in the final If he's good with a hangover let him drink and ball next day, LOL. Now, seriously, it comes as surprise, I don't remember such things. It only shows that Maksvytis controlled the team poorly, all this Sabonis trip was fishy as well. Imagine under Kazlauskas Sabonis having vacation at the weekend LOL Have to say with time I'm starting to miss harder hand from Kazlauskas. It's not even about harder hand, it's about respect. Coach should be really respected. Zebenas wouldn't provide that. Kurtinaitis would provide more. But mostly Jasikevicius. There wouldn't be any issues then and very obvious hierarchy

Anyway, I think it shows that our coach was meh, captain Kuz is not a good idea, and that we lacked the leader. On and off the court. On other hand, obviously there was a conflict. When it turned out, those who were disciplined really pissed of and some TVs were smashed as being said. So, maybe just few guys got drunk and got schooled. Anyway, I think it's not the main reason why we lost. It could affect it to certain degree, but I think we generally lacked pieces that could carry us.

 

[zalias2]

its definitely not the main reason they lost but its very disappointing when they have been struggling for nearly a decade and after yet another failure this comes out. there are way too many players/coaches on the national team who dont really have a winning mentality and treat the national team as a some kind of friend meetup.

 

[Shawshank2]

Tapinas: one of younger players broke the tv in middle of celebration

Players in their 30s with families and kids unlikely will do such childish things in most important tournament,those without kids easily could do some celebrations


Rumours about Jokubaitis partying too much in barcelona already was before this summer.

Jokubaitis and Sirvydis would be main candidates for such activities what Tapinas is talking and both played dissapointing tournaments.


In first 3 games Jokubaitis and Sirvydis was really bad,missing everything and couldnt stay in front of nobody in defence

after that celebration in playoofs game vs Italy :

Jokubaitis 1 from 8
Sirvydis 0 from 5 3pointers

 

[Hepcat2]

according to Tapinas apparently lithuanian players were drinking, partying and not taking the games seriously this olympic qualifier....

That would be worrisome indeed.

I think the rumor about drinking was related to U20, someone was spreading that. Not the first not the last time if true. 90s greats were partying and winning. Kleiza and Saras were partying an winning. I see no problem here.

No, you are very wrong. Alcohol and superior performance on the court do NOT mix. Professional sports are no longer at the beer league level. Those days have been gone for decades. Winning at the highest levels these days requires absolute focus.

Bring Jakucionis and Buzelits to the NT as soon as possible. That's the only smart thing Lithuania can do. Those lottery pick material with the ball in their hands means our basketball is in their hands.

No. They should be brought onto the team only when they demonstrate with their game play that they're good enough.

But if these stories about alcohol fueled partying on the part of the players have any truth, what's most needed is a strict disciplinarian such as Rimas Kurtinaitis or Tomas Pačėsas as head coach.

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[Straight forward2]

Kleiza and Maciulis says that one player revealed that story, dragged to outside world while the ehtics of the team is that everything stays inside the team. They say the career of that players is over in the NT. You can't trust that kind of dude. It's one of older players. I wonder who.

Well, yes, drinking during such a short tournament is bad. The even worse is Tapinas who shits on the NT just for fame, freakin' glory hunter as always. I believe sports journalists did a good thing not talking about it if they knew. NT has do deal with shit inside, not other ways. As fans we should support them, we already put too much on them.

I'm still think the biggest problem of the NT was lack of true standouts (guards), guts and better coaching. If some-one would have a beer or two...It always was like that. Like Kleiza said, they did it in 2013, sometimes it can even help to clean your head and emotions. Just the timing and the amount should be proper. Obviously someone screwed drinking in PR, but the one who actually dragged this out fucked it even more.

 

[Shawshank2]

Drinking and celebration was done by younger fellows

Who dragged inside team story from room its between Dmo or Ulanovas,most likely Dmo.

He has relationship with O dangau and similiar type journalists and what Pakenas said about that one player its sounded like Dmo type veteran who is finishing his career.


For me as NT fan i pissed at those who did drinking and didnt take olympic summer seriuosly. Those same fellows have been seen in club one day before NT camp started in Palanga according to journalist sources.


Adding Sabonis wedding type 3 days dissapearence and missing one of very few friendly games.This players deserved that quallirication lost for not taking this very short preparation seriuosly

 

[Hepcat2]

...captain Kuz is not a good idea, and that we lacked the leader. On and off the court.

I agree. Mindaugas Kuzminskas may have been the player with the most national team experience, but by temperament he's not Captain material. Arnas Butkevičius was the best suited in that regard to be Captain. Unfortunately it helps if the Captain is also among the star players and while Butkevičius has the hustle he's not really good enough otherwise.

 

[Shawshank2]

Jasikevicius and Kazlauskas put alot dirt on federation in recent interviews and called them money grabbing heads and returning 20 years back our basketball

No chance Saras will coach NT if Gedvilas and Balciunas will be in federation.


Sabonis or Javtokas basketball people Jaska respects would be way bigger chances they maybe could convince Jasikevicius to coach in 2027-2028 olympic summers.


But at the end of the Saras also said: what head coach can do if Nt dont have players who can pay 1 vs 1 and beat good defenders ?

NT head coach became just man for cluesless fans to put dirt on. Like they did on Adomaitis and Maksvytis.

 

[Straight forward2]

Yeah, the reason that LTU coaches didn't have dominant ISO players make them absolutely immune from criticism. Tell me about it.

 

[zalias2]

coaches get criticized more than any player

 

[Shawshank2]

2019 France
2021 Slovenia
2022 Spain
2023 Serbia

Those losses was normal we lost to elite NTs that went to win medal and Slovenia ended 4th in Olympics.

2024 lose to very mediocre Puerturico NT is by far worst lose since 2011 Macedonia.

7 people coaching staff have to look at mirrow and drinking players and wedding participants must be ashamed loosing to such streetball team

That lose now looks way worse seeing how puerturico looks like joke team in 2024 olympics

 

[Dreamcatcher2]

That lose now looks way worse seeing how puerturico looks like joke team in 2024 olympics

In qualifies Puerto Rico played at home with a big crowd. It was different. More or less I knew it was going to happen so. If it had been a neutral arena in qualifies, then i think our failure would have happened in Olympics instead.

 

[Hepcat2]

2019 France
2021 Slovenia
2022 Spain
2023 Serbia

Those losses was normal we lost to elite NTs that went to win medal and Slovenia ended 4th in Olympics.

2024 lose to very mediocre Puerturico NT is by far worst lose since 2011 Macedonia.

7 people coaching staff have to look at mirrow and drinking players and wedding participants must be ashamed loosing to such streetball team

That lose now looks way worse seeing how puerturico looks like joke team in 2024 olympics

Truth! Tough to explain and truly embarassing.