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2024 Lithuanian NT

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Rumours is that Italy lost Fontecchio if thats true Puerturico became main opponent for LTU NT in qualification.
 
I'm proud of myself of avoiding burst of cursing after I read Maksvytis choices...I see the man who walks into an open fire voluntarily (again, but this time the fire is really open and visible to others), but I can't do anything. All I can do to then to be indifferent as possible not to become as insane (or blind/ignorant) as that person himself.
 
Shawshank said:
Is there a chances Divicenzo will play in qualification?
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I don't think so... he has not the passport yet.

If available, Darius Thompson could play (recently acquire italian passport) but i think the chances are not that high...
 
Oh, Mister still the slave of my opinions. Tremendous addiction, I know. Hard to overcome.
 
If Puerto Rico 3 scoring midgets will fuck up Maksvytis hard in the ass it will be 100% logical consequence​ of all this incredibly stupid and pathetic Olympic cycle. Hands down, I knew Maksvytis is conservative coach, but that he would make so many mind blowing bullshit in 3 years...He transgressed everything, the worse nightmares. It's like he's doing everything possible for this to happen. With whom he will stop Alvarado? Howard? Waters? Three deadly midgets. Dimsa can't even stand against 203cm Sirvydis who cooked him all over in LKL semifinals. I mean I never was so angry about the decision. At least he could say something, like look Dovis this and that, but no, he said I just took Dimsa instead of Giedraitis. Period. Dude's delusional. Even if he will pass way less talented Puerto Rico, it's like he tries to give them the best possible chance to take us down. This stretch with Maskoliunas and Maksvytis is like...OMG, total insanity, we're in such a shitty situation coaching wise that it's hard to even describe. I think Purlys face says it all. Dude just tries to smile witnessing madness.

I never realized we're that kind of losers in terms of coaching and such pathetic provincials. Cutting D. Giedraitis, inviting R. Giedraitis, taking Dimsa instead of Dovis, taking 4 big lumberjack centers (assuming JV in), is all bullshit (the idea is to take third lumberjack just in case one lumberjack goes down is totally nuts, IMO).

I would keep any redneck away from NT with all honesty. Provincial? GTFA out here. We just can't continue to ride with narrow-minded people as the head coaches. Maksvytis is trash and we witnessed it with the first day when Trinchieri took the job out of his hands. It was TOTALLY different level, different planet, from the scratch, day one.

Foreigners, or normal contemporary coaches as Jasikevicius or the ones like Purlys who ever heard about spacing, guards, small ball, defence and such things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7WzudjLbU&ab_channel=O,Dangau!
 
Kazys had them both on same team for 1,5 years. He knows them well and what fits him better what he want to do.Either way we are talking here about 5th guard and 5minutes playing time or guard that will be cut either way.


For me more interesting how main guards who will play 25min will defend those puertorico midgets i have no clue.


From candidate list 2 best perimeter defenders is Dimsa and Grigonis. Dimsa most likely gonna get cut how coaches explained that last candidate spot he choosen between 2 zalgiris guards.



Likely 2024 LTU Olympic backourt: Lekavicius,Jokubaitis,Grigonis,R.Giedraitis,Sirvyd is


4 of those guards had seriuos problems defending lkl guards. Only one Grigonis maybe is average defender on good day when his back feels right.


Our backourt offensively they are very meh compared to elite 2024 fiba guards and defensively 4 of them is just bad defenders even on lkl levels.

How to win with such backourt i have no clue. They cant close no games and can defend no elite guards


Puerturico NT is possible to beat with just offence,but in Olympic games no chance
 
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Oh, no, let's not right down D. Giedraitis as your random scrub. He has been playing 16mpg in EL and since Trinchieri took over he probably played around 20mpg. The key moment here that when Italian came, soon Giedraitis started to play tons and Zalgiris was winning everything basically and Giedraitis was stopping the key players. Like literally. In other words, he's not 5mpg NT player. In some games, like against PR he could be the main guard basically, cause he would check Alvarado and Howard all game long. Just don't try to cover Maksvytis. It's insane decision literally. You need defense and you cut your best defender - idiotism. Nothing short than that. I will put it other way. Except Sabonis, Jokubaitis, Grigonis,(and maybe JV, but less so when Domas in) cuts, it wouldn't be more idiotic move than to cut D. Giedraitis. He is literally what NT badly needed against PR. Just complete no brainer. Like it hurts the eyes even how obvious it was. All 3 guys in that video I shared above had D. Giedraitis in their rosters. It's PRO player Gecevicius, PRO coach Purlys. This move is insanity, let's just openly say. Giedraitis has been elite defender in EL, elite. Nothing short than that. You cut him before going against PR? Idiot, full time idiot. Even if Maksvytis will win that game, still it will be probably the most idiotic cut of all time. Only maybe the cut of Kaukenas in 2004, Sedekerskis in 2021 and 2022 are close to that. So Maksvytis already has at least 2 most idiotic cuts in LTU BB history and he managed to do so in 3 years span. It's nothing short, but amazing. Add his complete bullshit like "Cizauskas is marginalized without a reason" and all that jazz....I simply can't call him other ways than just an idiot. Really. I tried, I really hoped he could develop, he could learn, adjust, grow, but it just continued to get worse. He learned nothing. NT in the game against PR needs D. Giedraitis more than Sedekerskis, Ulanovas, even more than healthy Butkevicius. Cause he's the best defender in the country when it comes to pure small guards. Period. Maksvytis made the most idiotic decision ever. And will remain so, because it's a fact.

F.e. imagine Fill Jackosn cuts Jordan from 7 game of the final against Jazz. Pipen and Kukoc has an amazing game and bulls still win the title. Would that justify coach's decision? No, it would still be most utterly idiotic move ever. D. Giedraitis with his elite D is a Jordan going against PR. Literally. Against PR the defense is most important cause these midgets can score flat out, like they can get hot and destroy you. We seen how Howard destroyed real. Offense not gonna be a problem. Other han Alavarado who is elite on ball defender and will cause a lot of pain for Jokubaitis' handles, I think Lithuania will climb all over other with their size and athleticism. Even Alvarado is a midget and can be punished nearer the basket. But they can shoot and score the lights out if you let him. That's why super sticky, elite defender as D. Giedraitis was likely even No.1 player in terms of importance in that particular game.

That reporter said very true thing. Now BB community just shrugs it's shoulders, like it's insanity, but let's wait. If Maksvytis going down with it, I can't just imagine that. Giedraitis was stopping fucking EL elite players literally. Video's with his defense was created just to show what he's doing at D end. And you your self talked about how Giedraitis is no brainer fit for qualification. So don't try to cover the fat-ass. Dude's insane, after this I just have zero space to somehow justify him. He wasted all the credits possible. That booing of the crowd was just an illustration if it. Dude lost it. Just how he lost the process of handling Zalgiris, at the end he lost it in the NT. Literally he couldn't do more bullshit than that.

Now look at Dimsa's defense on Sivydis, just notice who guards Sirvydis. Dimsa is missing cutters all the time. He has been doing that playing for the NT against Poland and Estonia. He always lost with cutters. Last 3 games with the NT of Maksvytis. He gets swept by Latvia. He wins the game against weak Poland. And he loses against Estonia. Dimsa really struggled defensively against Serbia, Latvia, Estonia. He struggles in LKL semis and Maksvytis sitll takes him and not elite EL defensive guard D. Giedraitis. Hands down, case closed. I made my point and everyone who has any sensibility understands that have been fucked. Maksvytis screwed the Olympic cycle and made huge damage to upcoming one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XSNkjaz4xc&ab_channel=DeividoSirvyd%C5%BE iofanai
 
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Shawshank said:
Coach that had them for 1,5 years knows them and their abilities way better than me or you.

Don't hold coach idiot who clearly knows more about those players.

D.Giedraitis have no offence that's the problem with him and why even trinchieri benched in Lietkabelis 2halfs.

Evans did by far best job on Sirvydis.


You know how I know that Dimsa is better than other LTU backourt players? Because he gets coaches assignments to defend opponents best players.

Other our NT candidates on perimeter never even does that.Why? Because their own coaches knows they suck in defence ;)

those who most often defend opponents leaders and will get cooked the most normal
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I saw 1,5 years how Dimsa played better under Kazys and 4 months how Giedraitis played better under Trinchieri.

They are same level players only for one coach one fits better and for other coach other better.

Coach Maskvytis invited to camp the one that fits him more.

Don't need to picture like one is 45 best LTU player and other 7th best.

No they both are somewhere in 10-18 range and neither of will be diffrence in winning or lossing .They are helpers and their playing time depends on what coach needs.

If Brazdeikis would be in I'm almost sure Dimsa wouldn't be invited

So again you interested discussing 10-15th spot players way more than top 5 that matter the most :)
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I mean you're trying. You try to justify Maksvytis. But the thing is that Dimsa could only be better option to guard wings. Or Buktevicius (who if fully ready is way better defender than Dimsa). But when it comes to those 180cm players, hands down D. Giedraitis is at another level. Literally. Way better than Dimsa and even better than Butkevicius. I know you know it and I know that you knew that I know that you know. So it's pointless. Just admit it. No-one cares BTW how Dimsa looked last season or whatever. It's about who's better player now. And Trincieri had his word. Never put freakin' Maksvytis and Trincieri in the same line. Maksvytis is complete scrub compared to Trinchieri.
 
Smitd and Dimsa were big minutes players last season to team which made top 8

With new coach got their minutes cut from starters to bench players and looks way worse players.

Do they forgot how to play ? Or simply for trinchieri style Giedraitis and Manek is better fit?

I Want NT coach take players that fits his style he wants to play


I said here multiple times i would take d.Giedtaitis for puerturico game but that I see big difference maker with such passive offence

But im surprised that coach took player that played better under him
 
Shawshank said:
I said here multiple times i would take d.Giedtaitis but i'm in pissed that he took player that played better under him ?

No I'm not
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Yeah, we so how Dima was stopping serious players against Serbia. Hell even how he defended against Estonia in last game. Or how "well" he coped with Sirvydis. Just shinning for both Maskvytis and Trinchieri indeed.
 
It's funny how people still don't get that Maksvytis is a coach of scrubs. For him it's much more natural to take Zukauskas instead of Sedekerskis, Maldunas instead of Tubelis, even if first two are average scrubs and last two are legitimate talents. Or in a bit less obvious examples, to take Kariniauskas instead Marciulionis, Dimsa instead Giedraitis and so on. He loves average scrubs and is built to coach such material. Period. That's because he's a scrubby average coach himself.
 
Listen you want to see what you want to see.

I saw Dimsa playing better under NT head coach 1.5 year that happend

I saw Dimsa being solid in 2023 world champ way better than R.Giedraitis 2022 or Sirvydis 2023 that aldo happend

​​​​​​Dimsa shown me he can play .That he sucks under Trinchieri for 4 months yes that also happend

Coach took player that played better under him normal desicion for those who remembers more than last 4 months
 
Shawshank said:
Listen you want to see what you want to see.

I saw Dimsa playing better under NT head coach 1.5 year that happend

I saw Dimsa being solid in 2023 world champ way better than R.Giedraitis 2022 or Sirvydis 2023 that aldo happend

​​​​​​Dimsa shown me he can play .That he sucks under Trinchieri for 4 months yes that also happend

Coach took player that played better under him normal desicion for those who remembers more than last 4 months
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I didn't compromise pretty nice impact of Dimsa. He's a nice average player with nice motor, hustle and heart. But NT is not a place to just credit average "fighters", NT is a place where we have to put pieces that gives us best chance to win. Dimsa and Normantas looked clueless defensively against Serbia. That the main game. I want us to have chances to win big games. IMO, the guy who showed that he can stop and strongly slow down elite EL guards, that's Giedraitis, deserves a spot more. Dimsa never showed that. He just showed solid D and offensive is some games. Giedraitis has elite skill - defense. And that's the difference. I take the player who has that elite skill and I need that against PR and not only that. I believe that going against Serbia, we have more chances with Giedraiti on the court because of his elite D and not with Dimsa who has no D against true agile guards and only slightly better offense (which is debatable).

Dimsa in LKL playoffs - 5.8ppg, 1.4apg, 5eff. Dovis - 4ppg, 2.6apg, 4.8eff.

Such a huge difference offensively...

And again no-one cares what was happening 1.5yo ago. Players in such span goes from meh to MVP levels. Take for example Sengun. Last season he was still well "meh", this season he already played at the all star level basically. It's about NOW (and a bit about future). Surely not about what was freakin' happening 1.5yo :D Marciulionis was riding the Gaels bench 1.5 years ago, now he would rip into two pieces Kariniauskas alive.
 
You called him a scrub yes you did :)

Could tell which one from

Lekavicius,Jokubaitis,R.Giedraitis,Brazdeikis,Sirv ydis is better defenders than Dimsa?


Because it's seems Dimsa is worst defender ever reading your comment with which I disagree seeing our backourt players and seeing that his own coaches gives him assignments to defend leaders.


Heart of 2023 NT mediocre roster help them alot to reach top 8 first time in 7 years

Scrubs is those players who played in lkl 5-10 level teams all their career.Yes they dont deserve being in NT camp

Players that from youth was top 3 ltu tallent in his age group, player with multiple seasons in euroleague,multiple fiba tournaments and shown multiple times being better in some specific roles than some 10pts lithuania euroleague players no he is not a scrub and its not suprising that such player is invited to the camp
 
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Scrub to me is average player by all means. Dimsa is a scrub. He's essentially Eurocup level player. I talk about him cause Maksvytis said he took him instead of Giedraitis. IDK if Grigonis when he's fully on it is worse defender than Dimsa. I doubt. But you are right we also should talk about why the hell R. Giedraitis is needed when we already have Sirvydis? We we need so many offensive players? Giedraitis cut is just by all means is stupid, period. Both Dimsa and Giedraitis had to be in the camp. We don't need Grigonis, Sirvydis, R. Giedraitis in one camp. At least how I see it. I actually don't understand how R. Giedraitis is still in the NT after being complete trash in 2019, 2021, 2022 and missing 2023 for no reason. How many trashy tournament he needs more to be a gonner? This is ridiculous. We take a player to provide in fucking NT. That's the goal.
 
I repeat why he took him because for 1,5 years Dimsa played better than D.Giedraitis in this coach systems thats why. Its very difficutl for you understand coaches logic?


DImsa and Smit is not so bad as last 4 months is showing in Trinchieri system . Such situations happens million times when players with new coach is loosing place in a team.


and you still talking about his defence like his total crap when our best guards is way worse thats funny and your argumentrs makes no sense :)


Somehow i never heard you talking about Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,Brazdeikis defences and how manny good guards they have slow down ?
 
Shawshank said:
I repeat why he took him because for 1,5 years Dimsa played better than D.Giedraitis in this coach systems thats why. Its very difficutl for you understand coaches logic?


DImsa and Smit is not so bad as last 4 months is showing in Trinchieri system . Such situations happens million times when players with new coach is loosing place in a team.


and you still talking about his defence like his total crap when our best guards is way worse thats funny and your argumentrs makes no sense :)


Somehow i never heard you talking about Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,Brazdeikis defences and how manny good guards they have slow down ?
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The problem is not that Dimsa in invited. The problem is that D. Giedraitis is not. Because the latter is the best perimeter defender in the country.
 
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