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There's zero chance in my eyes. No-one is even remotely close. But that Kutluay guy may have what it's needed. For future.
There's zero chance in my eyes. No-one is even remotely close. But that Kutluay guy may have what it's needed. For future.
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LOL, no dudeYou like mentioned all the bad things about NT and then summarized that it's top 5 team
Youll see it in Eurobasket after all
Brown showed some massive performances in EB in the knock out stage. Like dropping 28 on Lithuania and 29 on Germany. Dude was elite of elite when it comes to EL at that time. And still he overachieved a little bit which helped tremendously. That Poland was a fluke
It all depends on your opponents. If you had to compete against Parker, pirme Dragic, prime Rubio etc I would be with you. These times are over. Everyone starts with the new guys and Tunca surely can become as good as a Lorenzo Brown so I am not with you in that point. Its of course beneficial to have an NBA guard but not crucial to win.
No, I would not break down it to the guards. We will see who produces the better guys on that position.
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Interesting that you talk about Stombergas as if he is the next NBA superstar and Kutluay may have what it needs. We have 3-4 guys who might reach that level. This is our expectation.
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Youll see it in Eurobasket after all
It all depends on your opponents. If you had to compete against Parker, pirme Dragic, prime Rubio etc I would be with you. These times are over. Everyone starts with the new guys and Tunca surely can become as good as a Lorenzo Brown so I am not with you in that point. Its of course beneficial to have an NBA guard but not crucial to win.
No, I would not break down it to the guards. We will see who produces the better guys on that position.
I doubt I see it in EB, even though if Wemby out, it's pretty open. But not in favor of Turkey, but all strong non-contender teams. Just to avoid Serbia and Germany in the first place. Even though France still won't be easy to beat even without Wemby, but with him it's amazingly hard. Later there comes USA, there comes Canada with the best guard in the world, there comes Australia with Josh and other NBA players.
You say these times are over, but no. There's Doncic who may finally have some new pieces to help him in 27/28, there's still Schroder beast who will be good this Olympic cycle, Serbia still has Bogi and lottery PG Topic, Lithuania has lottery PG and Buzelis, it's actually wise versa. Turkey has no-body at 1 literally. Tunca is not even EL player yet and you already combating all Europe
Anyway, love your optimism, but without true guards you ain't going anywhere. I don't see Tunca becoming Lorenzo Brown. It seems nearly impossible to me. Lorenzo Brown was drafted, he was quick, smooth, could shoot and all. Tunca by no means of that tier. You won't find Tunca among top 100 ESPN prospects. Thing is better something be there from Kutluay cause other wise Tureky is naked at 1.
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You mean bigs? No, I see Stombergas more like a guy who may become legitimate NBA prospect. Like say Bona. Not a superstar, no
Bigs won't be a problem for either LTU or Turkey. Difference is that LTU has guards and Turkey has not. And better deeper depth, specially going further. Now at least I understand your optimism with Cedi, Korkmaz, Biberovic, that ex Bulls dude who all may be boderline NBA wings, but who will be going further. Who's your new Cedi and Korkmaz to be solid role players? And guard and wing and I don't see drafted players. only Biberovic. Compare that with Jokubaitis, Sirvydis, Brazdeikis and off course upcoming lottery pick Jakucionis. Not mentioning Rubstavicius, Lelevicius, Marciulionis, Indrusaitis, Murauskas who all under NBA scouts glasses. Thing is you have to have at least Jokubaitis at true guard spot and no-one is even remotely close in Turkey in 3-5 years. Turkey could kill for Jokuabitis or Zagars level player. Let alone to have prospects as Jakucionis or Topic.
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If Melih Tunca develops good then he will build the duo with Sengun and Turkiye will reach for our standards a great level. Melih Tunca is exactly the answer for the turkish NT, all game will run through him. Player who knows how to play this game, this is what Turkiye lacks most.
If he can play against ball presure and if turkish coaches will not stop him then he will teach many players how to play this game, Jakucionis could be one oft hem.
Game changer of Turkiye = Melih Tunca
If he can play against ball presure and if turkish coaches will not stop him then he will teach many players how to play this game, Jakucionis could be one oft hem.
Game changer of Turkiye = Melih Tunca
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We saw Canada in the Olympics. Maybe the most unstoppable guard SGA couldnt win anything with Canada. Because Canada has some serious flaws. A usable big is one of them or lets take Australia. They had so many NBA guys and a well balanced team but no true star.
You say these times are over, but no. There's Doncic who may finally have some new pieces to help him in 27/28, there's still Schroder beast who will be good this Olympic cycle, Serbia still has Bogi and lottery PG Topic, Lithuania has lottery PG and Buzelis, it's actually wise versa. Turkey has no-body at 1 literally. Tunca is not even EL player yet and you already combating all Europe
Slovenias time is over either way. You cant win anything just with Doncic. Schroder will be 33 in 2027 and a usable player but he is all about penetration so replacing him will be difficult for Germany. Bogdan Bogdanovic will be near 35, still very fit but he wont be a game changer anymore but Serbia should be fine anyway.
You question Tunca but a rookie from the NBA whos participation and dedication is still a question mark and a 2006 born rookie makes you to a contending team? Sounds very questionable to my ears. Tunca is valuable anyway. If we still lack quality at that position we simply naturalize a player. That option is always available.
For Turkey 2028 is a target for participation, not winning a medal. The goal is not to be good for a certain time but to develop a system which creates regularly high level player like Serbia or Spain. Thats far more valuable than winning in a certain period.
Alperen Sengun was not in the top 100 until he was 18 but after his MVP season in the Turkish BSL he was top 20. Redraft now and he is top three and the best big of his class.
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Well, maybe I did see too little. But from what I seen he's not what it takes to win in FIBA, IMO.
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He is right. Tunca is really smart but he is by far not at the level we can be sure of him. His defense is still a problem. Creation under pressure looks promising but he needs experience (was my greatest fear), he hasnt shown any shot creation ability from the three pointer range.
He is very smart and fluent, a very solid p&r navigator and he can create high percentage mid range jumper. You can work with that.
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Canada stanched medals in 2023 WC and gonna be even better if SGA there long term.
Slovenia has couple of nice guard prospects like Jan Vide or Urban Klavzar. Slovenia may be interesting.
Shroder seems fit, I think he will handle this cycle at elite level still.
Lithuania has Jookubaitis, but I don't put LTU high now. I will put it higher if Buzelis, KJ, Sabonis show up in 27/28.
Yup, Turkey should aim to be in Olympics for the first time ever, nothing else in the first place.
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We need to go step by step. First minimal goal is to reach quarter finals in Eurobasket 25. The main goal is still semi finals. If they reach the semi finals I am happy.
There is than two years time to develop some guards.
There is than two years time to develop some guards.
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Uff Kendrick Nunn agreed take the offer immediately. Such a weapon is almost cheating but ok.
Nevertheless, there are some risks with him. Nunn is not a distributor but a finisher but what a finisher! We need a play maker beside him and actually we have such a guy. I think the addition of Nunn would boost the performance of Kenan Sipahi who is a really solid play maker and defender. If Ataman intends to use Nunn as a distributor he would disturb the chemistry of the team.
But the truth is no matter how skilled we are in the forward positions we dont have a finisher wing with solid ball control. Furkan Korkmaz is the closest to that description but his motor is way too low.
Nevertheless, there are some risks with him. Nunn is not a distributor but a finisher but what a finisher! We need a play maker beside him and actually we have such a guy. I think the addition of Nunn would boost the performance of Kenan Sipahi who is a really solid play maker and defender. If Ataman intends to use Nunn as a distributor he would disturb the chemistry of the team.
But the truth is no matter how skilled we are in the forward positions we dont have a finisher wing with solid ball control. Furkan Korkmaz is the closest to that description but his motor is way too low.
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Well, Ataman denies interest in Nunn. For now I guess
https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroba...es-rumors-of-turkey-recruiting-kendrick-nunn/
https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroba...es-rumors-of-turkey-recruiting-kendrick-nunn/
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Houston has been playing well recently. Fun to watch. They can make a deep run in the play-offs. If they can not win a ring, a deep run may be bad for Sengun. He needs some rest and personal training in the summer before EuroBasket. Next year would be more appropriate.
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They will one round at most this season. Hell get enough rest anyway. A deep playoff run would make him come in shape and with loads of experience from the play offs.
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I watched Bayerns game against Braunschweig btw. Onuralp Bitim looks very sharp and in shape which is very good.
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I never saw a Turkish player like Kaan Onat. His motor and will to win is unprecedented among the Turkish players even in our history. He contributes in several ways and is charged up all 40 minutes. There is no way this kid could fail to become a high level player. I think he will surpass our expectations. I love his game. He is strong with indomitable will to win every game and has a very fast first step.
Cant say much about Derin Can Ustun but Kaan Onat as well as Melih Tunca and Omer Kutluay are really exciting.
Cant say much about Derin Can Ustun but Kaan Onat as well as Melih Tunca and Omer Kutluay are really exciting.
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https://x.com/TrendBasket/status/1909620925558890786
Adem Bonas stats in the last 12 games. He is so lucky that Philly went down big time.
Adem Bonas stats in the last 12 games. He is so lucky that Philly went down big time.
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Nice to see Cedi can be a difference maker in Euroleague play-off level. He outclassed the Bryant. Ataman still did not use him in the last minutes which is a smart decision. But he will not have this chance in the national team. We do not have many options like he has in Pao.
Yurtseven is unplayable. It shows that twin tower illusion in the olympic qualifiers. He is probably a Eurocup or bottom Euroleague level player. You can not trust him in high level. He is soft. He can put good stats against bad teams. Therefore he is still important for qualification games.
Lastly, Erkan Yılmaz showed that he needs to be in conversations. He can make final roster for EuroBasket. He performed well in this tough series.
Yurtseven is unplayable. It shows that twin tower illusion in the olympic qualifiers. He is probably a Eurocup or bottom Euroleague level player. You can not trust him in high level. He is soft. He can put good stats against bad teams. Therefore he is still important for qualification games.
Lastly, Erkan Yılmaz showed that he needs to be in conversations. He can make final roster for EuroBasket. He performed well in this tough series.
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He needs to be off the court in crunch time in close games. No matter what!
Recognizing this is also very important. At this point I would even take Yasar over him.
Yepp, for me he belongs to the roster.