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thatweirdguy2
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Wow SMC really does own the league. Yet they still can't win unless they got a super import lol.
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Big Ticket2
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I ask you, where in the world have you seen a balanced league? Even in fantasy leagues, they're still strong and weak teams...
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trig2
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I'd rather have 8 teams than 10 with 2 developmental teams for SMC. And I'm a smb/petron fan since I was a kid. I started losing interest when they traded away guys like DonDon,Pingris, Pena, Pennisi and added Jwash and Arwind. SMB of yesteryears always has this charisma. A good mix of talented exciting scorers and hustle guys. Now its papogian game. I now watch from time to time because I want to see Fajardo improve, but other than that, pretty much lost interest because of 1 sided trades.
Jason Castro(traded for Jwash?) + Pingris(traded for arwind?) combo is fun to watch
It would've been better if the trade was Maliksi-Yeo-Kramer. Then maybe add 2nd round picks
Jason Castro(traded for Jwash?) + Pingris(traded for arwind?) combo is fun to watch
It would've been better if the trade was Maliksi-Yeo-Kramer. Then maybe add 2nd round picks
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JAMSKIE2
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Well, you have a point there. What I'm implying is, the PBA can somewhat "improve" the balance of power among teams para di naman masyadong dihado ang mga "weaker" teams. Of course its easier said than done. But it can be done pag ginusto! Isn't the Commissioner's discretion to approve or disapprove a trade deal? Such a discretion was given to the Commissioner so that "lop-sided" trades will be avoided. If the Maliksi-Wesley Gonzales & Chris Pacana trade can't be considered a "lop sided" deal, then how does Commissioner Chito Salud call it?
Eh tingnan mo naman how strong teams like Petron & Talk n' Text on paper compared to Air-21. Eh yung 9th & 10th men ng Petron & Talk n Text eh pwede nang maging franchise player ng Air-21 eh.
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JAMSKIE2
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Same here
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JAMSKIE2
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Karma? Kung minsan ang subrang masiba, nabubulunan!
Trans: Greedy are those who want to get all the pork
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durden_tyler2
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Unfortunately the lifeline of the league-- the SMC fans particularly Gins-- and their opinions is what matter the most. We are the minority here. So even if we kick and scream about unfair transactions and lopsided trades, we can't expect that things will change.
Heck even Tim Cone, a once staunch critic of these one-sided deals, has shut up.
In short, money talks. And that means only the Evil Empires will be true and legit contenders year in and year out.
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KevinDurant2
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Its the nature of the beast. Alaska yes, rebuilds the right way. Thats their only choice anyway. San Mig Corp has the resources. Why blame them for flexing their muscles? Again nature of the beasts. Not saying that what they do is right. But again they can and other teams cannot. That aint their fault
Sus. Other posters here, years na nagpopost di pa makuha ang kalakaran. Puro reklamo. Just enjoy the game.
Trans: Get used to it.
Sus. Other posters here, years na nagpopost di pa makuha ang kalakaran. Puro reklamo. Just enjoy the game.
Trans: Get used to it.
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KevinDurant2
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Sometimes we are blinded by reputations. Its the system. We can atleast as fans can be vigilant to voice out displeasure. At the end of the day, its their business.
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trig2
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Getting used to it and agreeing to it are 2 very different things. And its not like they are winning a lot. They have a lot of (pai)star players who doesn't fit. Its nice tho that its starting to change. Not really a fan of Tubid but he's a good pickup(and Pena). And now Kramer and Omolon whom I also think are good pickups because they are role players. Thank god they didn't get Canaleta
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mangangalakal2
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economics at work mehn. SMC and MVP have more cash than the Linas. Wait for the economy to improve and for the money will circulate again. Same thing happened in Spain - before the big recession Joventut was up there with Barca and Real Madrid but after 2008, they had to sell Ricky Rubio to Barca and it was all downhill from there. BTW not much trade action from the independent teams (Alaska and RoS)
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JAMSKIE2
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Ikaw na rin mismo ang nagsabi bro, "We can at least as fans can be vigilant to voice out displeasure."
Of course I have no illusion that what I would be saying here in this forum would make any significant difference. As what most posters here would insist, PBA is so BIG that any displeasure of some basketball enthusiasts would not matter at all. But that should not stop any of us from expressing what we feel about the pro league.
Countless Filipino citizens had expressed their displeasure & opposition towards the administration of tita Gloria, to the point that they even tried to oust tita Gloria. But did they succeed? How many Pinoys had voiced their displeasure towards the former president in social media? But did their efforts really matter? I mean, did it have an immediate impact? Like the PBA, tita Glo was too BIG and powerful (& perhaps "garapal") to be affected by the displeasure of some disgruntled citizens.
Sir, the last time I checked, we are still living in a free country where freedom of speech is a privilege. People would continue to complain & express their displeasure on matters that they feel they aren't getting a fair deal.
Get used to it bro
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KevinDurant2
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But also you've got to understand the business side of this. With all your rants seems you're looking for a perfect league, perfect system for the NT which is highly unlikely to happen. We all know your rants. These were the same rants some years back. We already know.
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Cryotek2
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Only Petron has top picks all the time, even if they weren't directly getting the top players in the actual draft, but after the draft! San mig only has two top draft picks in the past, Yap(2nd) and Rico M.(1st/2nd)...and fortunately now, because they've traded Josh U. before this season started...
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Jordan Bruiseter2
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Add to that, trade Eric Salamat for TY Tang and let our favorite sportswriters have a field day.
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EnolRock2
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Since the PBA started, people only used to talk about the Crispa-Toyota rivalry...I guess low-tier teams back just like today have decent but not very good players...Star players came mostly from those teams...then after that, San Miguel, Purefoods, Ginebra, Alaska are the ones consistently contending for the finals during the 90's...we've got teams like Pepsi, 7-Up, etc...pero I seem to forget who their players are...The point is, if you're really a fan of the league, you'll get used to these lopsided trades or star-powered teams by now...kaya nga ansarap kumampi sa dehado, talagang sulit pag nagchampion...you can complain all you want, pero it is what it is....Money talks....
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durden_tyler2
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As mentioned by many, many times already-- something Jamskie has not learned thus far, it's the nature of the beast of pro ball. Heck even amateurs (if and when money is involved).
For every Lakers and Celtics (rich teams like SMC and MVP teams), the are the likes of Spurs (say ROS and ALA, consistently good to great teams because of good coaches / management despite way lesser money). And then there are the Bucks, Hawks, Sixers and some-- the bitches of mediocrity because of incompetent owners.
For every Lakers and Celtics (rich teams like SMC and MVP teams), the are the likes of Spurs (say ROS and ALA, consistently good to great teams because of good coaches / management despite way lesser money). And then there are the Bucks, Hawks, Sixers and some-- the bitches of mediocrity because of incompetent owners.
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Big Ticket2
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Only Petron has top picks all the time, even if they weren't directly getting the top players in the actual draft, but after the draft! San mig only has two top draft picks in the past, Yap(2nd) and Rico M.(1st/2nd)...and fortunately now, because they've traded Josh U. before this season started...
Sanmig/purefoods got those 2nd overall picks because they sucked the previous seasons.... Unstoppaball, kindly check your sources first before ranting...
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reamily2
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Add to that, trade Eric Salamat for TY Tang and let our favorite sportswriters have a field day.
Youre just asking Norbert to declare for the draft already LOL
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JAMSKIE2
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I'm not looking for a perfect league. I know there's no such thing as that. But at least people in power can improve the balance of power in the pro league, if only the strong teams would be less greedy & the weak teams would be less greedy & less stupid in their decision making. But of course you will insist, that's not going to happen because the evil empires are bound to get more & more greedy & selfish that they will move heaven & earth just to make their teams as strong as humanly possible even if that would result into the league becoming very imbalance.
I think 6 to 8 years ago, the league was a lot more balance than it is right now. During those times, the stars & superstars were spread almost evenly among teams. In fact, Air-21 which was among the weak teams at that time had the likes of Ranidel Deocampo, Garry David & Arwind Santos on its fold. Barako Bull, which was then known as Red Bull was among the most successful teams in that era. I remember Red Bull beating the mighty San Miguel Beer team in a No. of championship series.