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  • Originally posted by reamily View Post
    No... Junmar's first mvp was the grandslam year of san mig, just becaus eof the stats, Mark Barroca the most important player of the gs squad was robbed of mvp, in Jason Castro magnificent 2015 season just because of stats, he was robbed of mvp, chris ross the reason of that beeracle 0-3 run and the catalyst of smb offense didnt get the recognition he deserves... If stats were sole basis, arwind santos couldve won the 2011 mvp not Jimmy Alapag..

    Yeah quite surprised of manu_bol sattement being a cebuano but he is right, legacy wise you put question mark of junmar's mvp.. the backstory is that he belong to the most potent starting 5 of Phil basketball(that belongs a former pba mvp also) that even the most exciting guard and international class forward cant even break into...
    Arwinds MVP is also actually an asterisk. He got it by being BPC of Govs cup. Stats wise and impact wise JF shouldve won the BPC. By playoffs time Arwind disappeared. But since he was a vet he won over JF.

    Statswise JF has been the top nearly the top every year. He won the AFC. Which is the most prestigous of all the cups. Grandslam San Mig had a few players leading statswise. They were a balanced team, 10 players deep, and was more a defensive team. Its no surprise they didnt get an MVP because stats wise their players were not high.

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    • If you had to put an asterisk on JF and SMB its two things. First, the gap between games is so far apart that you can getaway with just using your starters. Two: Hand check calls. He is allowed to hand check a driving player a bit. This masks his lack of lateral quickness. But statswise and impact wise I dont think you can really question his 5 MVPs.

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      • When you think about it, the schedule of the second conference is perfect for fringe nba players like terrance jones.

        Players who need game simulation to get their reps at the same time get paid, travel the world and get exposure. When NBA teams are starting to fill up their rosters, he can be an option as they have visibility on him.

        If Jones becomes successful and gets back to the NBA, hopefully it opens a new route for young veteran nba players to ply their talents here in the PBA.

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        • yup its like saying marlou aquino deserve the mvp award the same way johnny a do on 1996..
          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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          • Originally posted by IshmaelM View Post
            If you had to put an asterisk on JF and SMB its two things. First, the gap between games is so far apart that you can getaway with just using your starters. Two: Hand check calls. He is allowed to hand check a driving player a bit. This masks his lack of lateral quickness. But statswise and impact wise I dont think you can really question his 5 MVPs.
            I don't even understand why anyone would actually question ANY of Junemar's 5 MVP plums....

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            • Still don’t understand why nlex traded magat.

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              • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                Still don’t understand why nlex traded magat.
                Magat was probably what TNT wanted in return. And since there's likelihood for Miranda, who's a better fit at NLEX, coming back to the Road Warriors, quid pro quo among sister teams...

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                • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                  Magat was probably what TNT wanted in return. And since there's likelihood for Miranda, who's a better fit at NLEX, coming back to the Road Warriors, quid pro quo among sister teams...
                  Another 6’7 forward for tnt haha

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                  • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                    Magat was probably what TNT wanted in return. And since there's likelihood for Miranda, who's a better fit at NLEX, coming back to the Road Warriors, quid pro quo among sister teams...
                    they wanted a troy prototype just in case someone bite on what they want to receive for troy
                    Last edited by reamily; 06-11-2019, 01:48 AM.
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                      they wanted a troy prototype just in case somehow bite on what they receive in troy
                      Yup...no idea yet of Dickel's coaching style really although TNT's defense is much better now...

                      But Magat's reach and timing would help make him a rim protector....

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                      • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                        Yup...no idea yet of Dickel's coaching style really although TNT's defense is much better now...

                        But Magat's reach and timing would help make him a rim protector....
                        They seem to be playing a 5-out or a 4-out/1-in kind of offense. Opens the lane for terrence jones or castro penetrations. Hinges on the outside shooting of the entire roster, maybe that's why they hired craig hodges's services. Early results are positive, they shot the lights out against a decent SMB defense.

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                        • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                          They seem to be playing a 5-out or a 4-out/1-in kind of offense. Opens the lane for terrence jones or castro penetrations. Hinges on the outside shooting of the entire roster, maybe that's why they hired craig hodges's services. Early results are positive, they shot the lights out against a decent SMB defense.
                          adding magat means more mobility to their frontline. having 6'7 shooting forwards troy and magat will force opponents to guard them outside.
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                          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                            adding magat means more mobility to their frontline. having 6'7 shooting forwards troy and magat will force opponents to guard them outside.
                            magat trade makes sense as they need someone to relieve troy and kelly. i believe magat can play PF and C if necessary.
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                            • they somehow able to make cruz dispensable because of trollanos improved play, if magat somehow able to deliver in some games, they maybe able to not need a star anymore in rosario and be able to trade him for a need ( a bigman or a pg)

                              Tnt doesnt need a fajardo or cs to be that good, they somehow need what an alibpeek back then brings to the table that somehow troy cannot bring

                              ros is a champion pba team because they have a underrated low post threat in quinahan, san mig is a grandslam champion pba team because ping learned to become low post threat, rdo wasnt a low post threat anymore when the time he was traded by tnt
                              Last edited by reamily; 06-11-2019, 01:59 AM.
                              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                              • Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post
                                magat trade makes sense as they need someone to relieve troy and kelly. i believe magat can play PF and C if necessary.
                                i wish they get either isaac go or justin baltazar but the latter. if they succeed getting baltzar, tnt will be a solid contender for all filipino cup. tnt might not have a junmar or greg but they are a bunch of mobile bigs that can stretch the floor.
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