SEA GAMES in Vietnam

[Goose2]

Jalen Green has a Filipino great grandparent. If you were truly following PH basketball even somewhat closely, you would know that.

The Philippine Constitution requires the grandparent is a Filipino to get Philippine Citizenship as a natural-borm citizen. In Jalen Green's case, i would guess if his grandparent would get his or her Filipino Citizenship then Jalen Green can apply for his.

 

[bsgermany2]

Jalen Green has a Filipino great grandparent. If you were truly following PH basketball even somewhat closely, you would know that.

It may come as a surprise to you, but for a European, basketball in the Philippines may not always be the top priority. I said I keep freequently following basketbal there, but not that I keep myself updated on everything, or that I would be interested to follow all rumours 24/7.

 

[Jupitersa2]

Plus his take that pinoys think we are the best in asia is at best outdated by about a quarter century.

I don't know where the guy reads he thinks we're the best in Asia. After the horrid SEA games outing. We're already resolved to getting blown out by the upcoming NZL and South Korea games thanks to Chot. Just backread the SEA games thread dude.

 

[Sikatrix2]

The Philippine Constitution requires the grandparent is a Filipino to get Philippine Citizenship as a natural-borm citizen. In Jalen Green's case, i would guess if his grandparent would get his or her Filipino Citizenship then Jalen Green can apply for his.

I think Jalen's only path is the congress since it is his great grandparent who is Filipino. That being said if his career goes the way he wants it too, I think he'll be lined up by team USA.

 

[Sikatrix2]

well, the answer to that has just recently been given on the court. Its nothing new that Pinoys believe they belong to the top of the world in basketball, but they are not even top in Asia.
Just look at the PBA, where often average Americans totally dominate that league.

bringing this back up since some havent seen it.

 

[Sikatrix2]

So your answer to making the Philippines more or less competetive is foreign players? Shouldnt you rather try to develop local talents and maybe just accept in the meantime that the Philippines are just not good enough for international top level? The Southeast Asian games 2022 have been a major embarrassement, having trouble with weak teams like Indonesia and even Thailand, but maybe your talent pool just isnt as good as many seem to think here.
Maybe send coaches over to Europe and copy their programs to improve player development, and have your national team face good teams for a change to learn.

This too

 

[ja.he2]

I don't know where the guy reads he thinks we're the best in Asia. After the horrid SEA games outing. We're already resolved to getting blown out by the upcoming NZL and South Korea games thanks to Chot. Just backread the SEA games thread dude.

I always think that Iran, China and South Korea are the top Asian teams. when Australia and New Zealand entered the picture, then I believe that these two are the best in Asia-Oceania region. the only thing we bragged about is that we are the best in SEA but this is no longer the case.

 

[Sikatrix2]

bsgermany is free to post here but if his takes are gonna be like those above expect some blowback. Most pinoy fans are more grounded to reality.

 

[bsgermany2]

Your suggestion of improving youth teams' capabilities is great, and I've been a big advocate of youth development and getting players to play in a system that's good for FIBA. Get foreign coaches for help, then train local players and local coaches for international ball, starting from youth.

Problem is, we're too damn focused on quick fixes. We already have a couple foreign coaches in Tab Baldwin and Nenad Vučinić, but we see them as quick fixes too instead of using Tab's system as a blueprint on how to develop players and a system for FIBA, or having coaches train under him. It's like we're relying a little too much on certain people. It's kinda sad, really.

I agree and I hope, that sooner or later the focus will change. Also the Philippines should start sending youth teams to tournaments in Europe, where I keep regularly missing the Philippines, while countries like China, Japan and certainly Australia regularly show up here and benefit from it. That would be well spend money in my oppinion, but of course take many years to see the benefit.

 

[Sikatrix2]

I agree and I hope, that sooner or later the focus will change. Also the Philippines should start sending youth teams to tournaments in Europe, where I keep regularly missing the Philippines, while countries like China, Japan and certainly Australia regularly show up here and benefit from it. That would be well spend money in my oppinion, but of course take many years to see the benefit.

Now this is a better suggestion and one I agree with. I think the SBPs agrees with it as well but I dont they have put proper focus into this.

 

[IPC2]

I agree and I hope, that sooner or later the focus will change. Also the Philippines should start sending youth teams to tournaments in Europe, where I keep regularly missing the Philippines, while countries like China, Japan and certainly Australia regularly show up here and benefit from it. That would be well spend money in my oppinion, but of course take many years to see the benefit.

Oh, there are pocket youth tournaments in Europe? Man, we really are missing out if we don't attend them. They could be a great learning experience for our players and coaches, if they do learn.

And as for well spent money, I hope our federation sees it that way. I agree that it would be a good long-term investments. Sure, there will be busts, but if high-level talents emerge, the reward is worth it. Just need to get officials that are less on quick fixes and more on development.

 

[ja.he2]

Oh, there are pocket youth tournaments in Europe? Man, we really are missing out if we don't attend them. They could be a great learning experience for our players and coaches, if they do learn.

And as for well spent money, I hope our federation sees it that way. I agree that it would be a good long-term investments. Sure, there will be busts, but if high-level talents emerge, the reward is worth it. Just need to get officials that are less on quick fixes and more on development.

I would rather send a Philippine team to either Serbia, Lithuania or Spain than in Germany. No offense to Germany but they are not in the same level of countries I mentioned in terms of basketball.

 

[bsgermany2]

Oh, there are pocket youth tournaments in Europe? Man, we really are missing out if we don't attend them. They could be a great learning experience for our players and coaches, if they do learn.

And as for well spent money, I hope our federation sees it that way. I agree that it would be a good long-term investments. Sure, there will be busts, but if high-level talents emerge, the reward is worth it. Just need to get officials that are less on quick fixes and more on development.

There are tournaments here where the Philippines could eventually send youth teams. One of the strongest one is right here in Germany with the "Albert-Schweitzer" tournament, taking place every 2 years and being the unofficial U18 world championship tournament with teams from all over the world joining. They may get their ass kicked on that level, but thats the only way to learn and improve.

 

[bsgermany2]

I would rather send a Philippine team to either Serbia, Lithuania or Spain than in Germany. No offense to Germany but they are not in the same level of countries I mentioned in terms of basketball.

Well, feel free to believe what you like. Germany is well established in Europe and in world basketball now, and I am quite sure that even the Philippines could learn a fiew things from our development programs.

 

[IPC2]

There are tournaments here where the Philippines could eventually send youth teams. One of the strongest one is right here in Germany with the "Albert-Schweitzer" tournament, taking place every 2 years and being the unofficial U18 world championship tournament with teams from all over the world joining. They may get their ass kicked on that level, but thats the only way to learn and improve.

I think the SBP should take the opportunity to send our U17 kids there for training. Not just there, but maybe other tournaments in countries like Serbia or Lithuania, as ja.he said. Who knows, some of them might get scouted.

Also, the local coaches could learn a thing or two about player development and tactics.

 

[Sikatrix2]

I think the SBP should take the opportunity to send our U17 kids there for training. Not just there, but maybe other tournaments in countries like Serbia or Lithuania, as ja.he said. Who knows, some of them might get scouted.

Also, the local coaches could learn a thing or two about player development and tactics.

Why not just send them to the states though? Since thats were half the team is based.

 

[thatweirdguy2]

I always think that Iran, China and South Korea are the top Asian teams. when Australia and New Zealand entered the picture, then I believe that these two are the best Asia-Oceania region. the only thing we bragged about is that we are the best in SEA but this is no longer the case.

We got clobbered by a hastily formed NZ team C. That should tell us a lot how big the gap between our teams are..

 

[Rds2]

Why not just send them to the states though? Since thats were half the team is based.

Maybe visa problems?

 

[zairex2]

How much will that cost and how long will they train there. How about thier family and school here

 

[mathematicianrcg2]

this is an international forum, so u have no exclusive rights here.
As for your statements - I keep refering to foreign players in my statements, as well as possibly nescessary reforms in your system by laying the focus more on local talents, while you keep bringing up phil-ams all the time. Can't you read?

Just to be clear sir.

You consider homegrown Fil-Ams to be local talents. (Lebron Lopez or Rayray Parks)

While you consider Fil-Ams who were born and grew up in America as dual citizen/foreigner????(Clarkson, Green)