SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XXII)

[lbj_192]

Imo Sanggalang is still ahead of Almazan offensively but Almazan is more athletic and defense oriented. Both should develop their upper body strength which I think will eventually happen with both entering the Pba. Right now I think Almazan has more upside due to his athleticism and speed but Sanggalang's fundamentals are things that is hard to learn at this point in their careers. Almazan if he wants to must develop his post game more. Both could be vital to the future Philippine team. Also as others have said one hindrance to Sanggalang is his manager, who controls where he goes and who he plays for. i just hope the manager gets his mind right and let the kid develop.

As for others asking, Sanggalang is ok defensively, decent, good rebounder, mid range shooting is already there, good footwork and decent post player. Reminds me of Wang Zhi Zhi minus the 3 pt shooting right now. Also left handed.

As for others mentioned, I beg to disagree to have Ronald Pascual play. Pascual is a volume shooter and close to being a one dimensional player. When hot he can bury shot after shot but when cold completely the opposite. As for Parks, I would like to see him play with better teamates and see how effective he can be. Right now, I don't see anything special from him especially playing in a system that is made for him. Jump shot is not as smooth as others. Although he's very athletic. Volume shooter as well. I'd like to see him play in an Nlex type team and see if he can get close to what he is producing right now in the uaap. Other players I consider ahead of these two is Garvo Lanete. Pure scorer and more efficient player. Experienced as well.

Rr Garcia also imho has reached his full potential, might end up as a back up in the pba. TRomeo will have a better future if he can adjust to a Pg, he just keeps on improving his shooting and skills year after year. My current bet for uaap mvp. His shooting is defintely in another level compared to the other amateurs. Kevin Alas also would be a good option if he can adjust to be a Pg. during his last yr in the ncaa he improved his overall game.

 

[lbj_192]

Lastly another prospect that is intriguing is Van Opstal. You gotta give credit to Jun Limpot for the development. But still too early, if he wants to and has the same desire year in and year out, might be a good player as well. Athleticism and footwork is there. Upper body is somewhat there already. But still raw for pba standards.

 

[trig2]

yes, plenty. but for 2014 wc and asiad,there's not much that we can say could possibly equal or better the trio of chan, fonacier, and david and that of castro, alapag, and tenorio.

for pg, in d pba i can only think of paul lee and to a lesser extent tiu. casio of course is a goner for now. in d cadet team, alas is d best bet.

at sg, i can only think of maliksi if he could up his game by 2014. in d cadet team, lanete perhaps but he's too one-dimensional right now. parks could provide some athleticism at d sg position but it would heavily depend on what he'd do after this uaap season.

yeah, don't see any deadshot 3pt shooter in the amateur ranks that's 6'2 and above. One interesting player tho is Kevin Ferrer. 6'4 with above avg wingspan. Plays annoying D and have an inconsistent 3. Might be a potential Norwood type of player if he continues to improve. He has improve his IQ this season moving well off the ball.

which reminds me, what the hell happened to Kazim Mirza and Don Villamin?

 

[eric_gordon2]

sbp should try to consider bringing in the likes of these guys in training for specified position
pg - kevin alas, paul lee
sg - ray parks, kevin ferrer
sf - jeth roy rosario,
pf - van opstal
given the athleticism and height , they need more training to improve the specified skills for their position and hope basketball iq improves through experience.. in 2 to 3 years. they can continue the program left by the veterans

 

[reamily2]

Garvo Lanete = Keijuro Matsui 2.0 might be slow for pg in Asia level.. too small to be sg but can play minutes with their shooting..

 

[analyzed2]

It's interesting you mentioned Garvo.. we sat beside each other for the last 5 games of FIBA Asia.. At 1st i wasn't sure if it was Lanete. But we eventually hit it off. I asked him what his plan was. (SEA games this Dec), I found it interesting that the guy sitting beside me , proabably is the most likely replacement for a struggling "Gary David. It's a tough one though as on my right side was Gary's family. Sort of like I was caught between "heart" all the sacrifices the players made and the sensible thing. (this guy on the right is young with potential) . Gavro asked me about the plan for Gilas in Spain. (I'm sorry guys while it is still early times of planning, i have to be mum about this for now)

I see a lot of discussion here about the line-up for the World cup, I have nothing to share other than what was discussed on the possible line-up if we made the world cup.

Obviously a number of players who didn't make the team this year or even were not made available by their teams, would be knocking on the door for next year. I really don't know .. but we also have cadets who were sitting around me. Carvo, Greg etc. i would think that aside from the final 12 this year plus Belga, 2 or 3 of the cadets would be priority in case one of the 12 don't make it. (unavaialble)

 

[Toks2]

My pitch would be:

A different team for the Asiad
Retain the Gilas line up with some "tweak".
Think of the 2015 line up

 

[FilipinoDad2]

Ronald Pascual at 6'3, Ray Parks at 6'4 are the young guns who can play the shooting guard in the future

There is this guy from the south, Bonleon, who is a deadshot from the three point area. He's 6'4 and 18 yrs of age.
Though he had a rough start with UAAP, if given the proper venue and training, the future is bright with him.

I still don't get why Ronald Pascual is still getting some love. Two years ago, sure. But he's never been the same since. He sucked during his last year in the NCAA, and he hasn't shown anything special since then.

He's a volume shooter. Sure, he gets hot when he's hot, but when was the last time it happened?

I'd choose Gabo over him. While a couple of inches smaller, at least he's proven already that he can perform at the Gilas level.

 

[paulezra2]

Imo Sanggalang is still ahead of Almazan offensively but Almazan is more athletic and defense oriented. Both should develop their upper body strength which I think will eventually happen with both entering the Pba. Right now I think Almazan has more upside due to his athleticism and speed but Sanggalang's fundamentals are things that is hard to learn at this point in their careers. Almazan if he wants to must develop his post game more. Both could be vital to the future Philippine team. Also as others have said one hindrance to Sanggalang is his manager, who controls where he goes and who he plays for. i just hope the manager gets his mind right and let the kid develop.

As for others asking, Sanggalang is ok defensively, decent, good rebounder, mid range shooting is already there, good footwork and decent post player. Reminds me of Wang Zhi Zhi minus the 3 pt shooting right now. Also left handed.

As for others mentioned, I beg to disagree to have Ronald Pascual play. Pascual is a volume shooter and close to being a one dimensional player. When hot he can bury shot after shot but when cold completely the opposite. As for Parks, I would like to see him play with better teamates and see how effective he can be. Right now, I don't see anything special from him especially playing in a system that is made for him. Jump shot is not as smooth as others. Although he's very athletic. Volume shooter as well. I'd like to see him play in an Nlex type team and see if he can get close to what he is producing right now in the uaap. Other players I consider ahead of these two is Garvo Lanete. Pure scorer and more efficient player. Experienced as well.

Rr Garcia also imho has reached his full potential, might end up as a back up in the pba. TRomeo will have a better future if he can adjust to a Pg, he just keeps on improving his shooting and skills year after year. My current bet for uaap mvp. His shooting is defintely in another level compared to the other amateurs. Kevin Alas also would be a good option if he can adjust to be a Pg. during his last yr in the ncaa he improved his overall game.

pare, forget ian sanggalang....he is too small to play the post in the Asian level. Almazan, if trained properly is suited for the fiba game...he will be a tremendous perimeter defender. Ayusin na lang topak okay na ito. Forget Garcia as well, if we pick a 6ft below point...he needs to be super athletic ala castro or alapag. Chriss Ross should be a candiate with his size and athleticism.While keifer Ravena is the perfect young candidate to play the point.

 

[mangangalakal2]

players for the pool:
GUARDS: Kiefer Ravena, Ray Parks, Baser Amer, Kevin Alas, RR Garcia (at least give him a chance), Gelo Alolino, JJ Alejandro
FORWARDS: Ian Sangalang, Kevin Ferrer, Matt Ganuelas, Ronald Pascual, Garvo Lanete, Kyle Neypes
CENTER/FORWARDS: Raymund Almazan, Jeth Troy Rosario, Russel Escoto, Arnold Van Opstal (may be ineligible though)
Let the RP Youth Alum form the core of our long-term pool.

 

[Tiggerman2]

If a separate team will be sent to the Asian Games, I hope these players will be considered

Banchero (if eligible)
Pringle (if eligible)
Maliksi
Belga
Lee
Parks
Sangalang
Almazan
Slaughter (if not included in the WC lineup)
Canaleta
Santos
Import (naturalized citizen)

plus any Gilas 2 members who were not included in the WC lineup

 

[jerby2]

what are the chances that SBP can get Christian Standhardinger to play for the PH team? if he can't play in a FIBA sanctioned tourney due to eligibility issues, can he play in the Asiad?

Let us please let go of this idea. Aside rom the Hagop rule, he already played for Germany's youth team. Buzz has it that he already in the German NT pool. This has been discussed here extensively already . Just back read if you want the nitty gritty.

 

[yogaflame2]

I hope Van opstal os DLSU is watching how Pingris play in the last Fiba Asia games. I see a bit of a Pingris in him. He also has a strong body and strong second jump. Its just that he lacks fundamentals in box out and proper positioning at the post.

 

[ramonmagdalo2]

I hope Van opstal os DLSU is watching how Pingris play in the last Fiba Asia games. I see a bit of a Pingris in him. He also has a strong body and strong second jump. Its just that he lacks fundamentals in box out and proper positioning at the post.

needs to be quicker though... Almazan is as tall as him and is more Pingris like

 

[yogaflame2]

needs to be quicker though... Almazan is as tall as him and is more Pingris like

I have not seen Almazan recently. Is he also hardworking, good rebounder, defender and agressive inside the paint? For me Van Opstal is the nearest comparison in terms of size(actually he is taller than Pingris which is an updie for him ) and physical build and athleticism. But Van Opstal really needs to work hard to improve his rebounding and defensive skills, and really use those gifts and potentials to the fullest. He lacks the skills right now but he is still young. Let's include him and Almazan to the Gilas pool to be trained.

 

[ramonmagdalo2]

Check out this Solar Sports Desk Article on Almazan:


Letran 'lucky' to have Almazan for another year, says Garcia

By Kali Quiñones

Published: Jun/24/2013 8:57 AM PHT
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MANILA -- Letran head coach Caloy Garcia considers Raymond Almazan's decision to suit up for the Knights for one more year a blessing.
Almanzan powered the Intramuros-based squad to a 74-69 season-opening victory over the San Sebastian Stags at the Mall of Asia Arena last weekend. The lanky 6'7'' center wound up with a team-high of 15 points, and game-highs of 20 rebounds and five blocks during their Saturday night win.
"We’re lucky Raymond stayed for another year," said Garcia of his ward.
Almazan only joined the Knights' practice in mid-May as he opted to focus on the PBA Developmental League during the off-season.
Letran was not only giving Almazan more touches from inside the paint, but it was also obvious that Garcia has given Almazan the green light to take shots from the outside.
“Lahat talaga may go-signal tumira -- yun ang maganda kay coach,” said Almazan of his coach, who serves as an assistant for the Rain or Shine ElastoPainters in the PBA.
Almazan shot a respectable 45% shooting clip from the field, while going 1-of-2 from beyond the arc in their game against the Stags.
“Si Raymond wide-open kaya tumitira sa three point (area). He has to understand he can't give up open shots. If you can do it in practice, why not do it in the game?" Garcia noted.
According to the coach, their ploy for this year is to always push the ball and not settle on a halfcourt game.
In an earlier interview with Solar Sports Desk, Garcia revealed that his team is more of an offensive team right now. "We just want to keep on running. Yun ang target namin -- to push the ball and go offensive everytime."
"We hope winning this game will give (us) more confidence as the season progresses."
Letran will try to go 2-0 when they go up against the Emilio Aguinaldo College Generals on Saturday.

 

[donmar2]

Why not form both PHL teams (World Cup-bound and Asiad-bound) as early as maybe November... the original Gilas 2.0 line-up plus those guys who were cut or injured (Belga, Slaughter, Reyes) and then add the cadets or rookies if they're in the PBA/PBA D-League that time... trained them together... scrimmage or whatever... play some tune-ups and well IF Chot thinks that he need to replace one or two players that played in the Asian Champs this year... then those replace can always play for the Asiad-bound team... also, IF Puno and Yeng Guiao's plan comes to fruition then the new naturalized player can always play for the Asiad-bound team... just my two cents...

 

[bhinov2]

Cadets, wishlist for Sea Games/Asian Games.

PG: Kevin Alas, Kiefer Ravena, Baser Amer or Josan Nimes
SG: Garvo Lanete, Ray Parks, Jericho Cruz
SF: Ronald Pascual, Arthur Dela Cruz, Jake Pascual
PF: Raymond Almazan, Troy Rosario, Norbert Torres
C: Greg Slaughter, Arnold Van Opstal

A joint training with the Senior team bound for Spain.

 

[drhouse2]

Unless sanmig players are used, the spain-bound team will be worse. Mvp players are getting older and smaller. douthit is too old. No great mvp team prospects too. Prep times for pba players will even be shorter, and no great young naturalized players are clearly on the horizon. Forming a decent nt is very expensive by pinoy standards, and pba team owners will still not be happy to volunteer players.

 

[pachador2]

check also the currently gloomy assessment in the "2013 Philippine NT" thread.(magpatuka na lang tayo sa ahas) although to be fair to SBP , i feel they will make a major press announcement on this issue soon. thats a given, for now they are just resting as im sure they are tired.

Unless sanmig players are used, the spain-bound team will be worse. Mvp players are getting older and smaller. douthit is too old. No great mvp team prospects too. Prep times for pba players will even be shorter, and no great young naturalized players are clearly on the horizon. Forming a decent nt is very expensive by pinoy standards, and pba team owners will still not be happy to volunteer players.