SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XVI)

[sharky2]

I believe the point was "If one man can make a difference".

The point is if the Chot and Yeng All-Star PBA team can win the championship if they had Douthit. and i believe the answer is "NO". bcoz they don't know a thing about International Basketball.

 

[lovejones2]

^^^

okay, so kindly enlighten us what is it about international basketball that chot doesn't know a thing about?

i'm really interested to find out what.

 

[nardy2]

Time to Go Play Ball for your Mother land, the Philippines.
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[sharky2]

^^^

okay, so kindly enlighten us what is it about international basketball that chot doesn't know a thing about?

i'm really interested to find out what.

don't you understand "they don't know a thing"?? ok it simply means they don't know anything about International Basketball bcoz if they had they should have placed higher with their All-Star PBA team. hope you understand now.. if you still don't im sorry for you i think your in a wrong forum.

a) international basketball thrives on system and not on individual talent just ask USA basketball org.
b) international referees are higher than the coaches and the players.
c)in international tourneys you can't let your players go party and tour around after games.
d)there's a formula in team composition not just bcoz your an All-Star your in..

many more.

at Nardy wrong pic as there is nobody in the stands. perhaps shouldve used a UAAP or PBA pic.

 

[lovejones2]

don't you understand "they don't know a thing"?? ok it simply means they don't know anything about International Basketball bcoz if they had they should have placed higher with their All-Star PBA team. hope you understand now.. if you still don't im sorry for you i think your in a wrong forum.

a) international basketball thrives on system and not on individual talent just ask USA basketball org.
b) international referees are higher than the coaches and the players.
c)in international tourneys you can't let your players go party and tour around after games.
d)there's a formula in team composition not just bcoz your an All-Star your in..

many more.

at Nardy wrong pic as there is nobody in the stands. perhaps shouldve used a UAAP or PBA pic.

Hi Sharky. Let me analyze your explanation:

a) international basketball thrives on system and not on individual talent just ask USA basketball org.

I find it hilarious that you are referencing USA basketball since the world knows they thrive on individual talent.
Furthermore, you don't think coach Chot Reyes has a system in place? So, in your own little private Idaho:

1. A running game is not a system
2. Finding a way to get your shooters free for a three is not a system
3. Utilizing an athletic 4 to unclog the middle is not a system

b) International referees are higher than the coaches and the players.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here. Higher than what? In what context are you using the word "higher?" Higher as used in a hierarchy or higher as in they've had too much drugs? Please expound.

c)in international tourneys you can't let your players go party and tour around after games

Oh my, you absolutely got it! You just found the sure fire recipe to achieving international success! Don't let your players party and tour after the games AND YOU WILL WIN IT ALL!!! How in the world could the SBP have missed this!?!?

Absolutely brilliant.

d)there's a formula in team composition not just bcoz your an All-Star your in..

If I may add to your cliche of an answer:

"There's no I in the word team."
“It’s not the hours you put in, it’s what you put into the hours”
“Offense wins games but defense wins championships”
“It’s not how big you are, it’s how big you play”
“Practice makes perfect”

I can't believe I actually replied to this. Lol

 

[durden_tyler2]

Hi Sharky. Let me analyze your explanation:

a) international basketball thrives on system and not on individual talent just ask USA basketball org.

I find it hilarious that you are referencing USA basketball since the world knows they thrive on individual talent.
Furthermore, you don't think coach Chot Reyes has a system in place? So, in your own little private Idaho:

1. A running game is not a system
2. Finding a way to get your shooters free for a three is not a system
3. Utilizing an athletic 4 to unclog the middle is not a system

b) International referees are higher than the coaches and the players.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here. Higher than what? In what context are you using the word "higher?" Higher as used in a hierarchy or higher as in they've had too much drugs? Please expound.

c)in international tourneys you can't let your players go party and tour around after games

Oh my, you absolutely got it! You just found the sure fire recipe to achieving international success! Don't let your players party and tour after the games AND YOU WILL WIN IT ALL!!! How in the world could the SBP have missed this!?!?

Absolutely brilliant.

d)there's a formula in team composition not just bcoz your an All-Star your in..

If I may add to your cliche of an answer:

"There's no I in the word team."
“It’s not the hours you put in, it’s what you put into the hours”
“Offense wins games but defense wins championships”
“It’s not how big you are, it’s how big you play”
“Practice makes perfect”

I can't believe I actually replied to this. Lol

You can't argue with people who only see things as either black or white.

 

[analyzed2]

don't you understand "they don't know a thing"?? ok it simply means they don't know anything about International Basketball bcoz if they had they should have placed higher with their All-Star PBA team. hope you understand now.. if you still don't im sorry for you i think your in a wrong forum.

a) international basketball thrives on system and not on individual talent just ask USA basketball org.
b) international referees are higher than the coaches and the players.
c)in international tourneys you can't let your players go party and tour around after games.
d)there's a formula in team composition not just bcoz your an All-Star your in..

many more.

at Nardy wrong pic as there is nobody in the stands. perhaps shouldve used a UAAP or PBA pic.

Let me try to understand what you're trying to say, int'l basketball relies more on ball movement rather than individual isolatiions, Ok i can buy that, And you're saying USA basketball realizes that as evidence by their change of approach from a dream team pick up system to one of more continuity (3 years program of Coach K, a college coach rather than a pro). Ok you have some merit there. Just be careful with your choice of words. e.g. thrives on system. as some systems take advantage of isolations, e.g . Triangle offense or drive and kick. While it relies less on ball movement it still is a system.
I would't be to harsh on PBA coaches like Yeng and chot, they are knowlegeble in their own right. What they might not have is the respect and reputation from FIBA referees and probably the same amount of experience in FIBA format tournaments (9 straight games) and rules (zone, goal tending rules).
I think what you are trying to say in regards to referees being "higher" than coaches /players is the tolerance level of referees on coaches and players complaint. Again a lot of this has to do with reputation. Toroman can scream his ass of and not get a technical , while if Chot stands up abruptly he could be called a technical. Call it double standards but it all comes with gaining respect.

Partying and being un- disciplined matters in regardless if you play internationally, college or in the pros

Chemistry and roles are important in regardless if you play the pro or international game.

 

[yogaflame2]

It's good news ! ! ! once and for all RP will now bury Toroman in the underworld . . . I could be much happier that Coach Chot will handle RP team again. . . I hope he will correct his past mistakes this time. . . With him at the helm of the ship, I expect an aggressive recruitment of talents will happen. . .Please note, Coach Chot Reyes is a persuasive recruiter of Fil-Americans just ask Kelly Williams, Gabe Norwood and Joe Devance. . .

Okay after watching how many games Chot choke as a coach just like yesterday game, and I remember how he coach coaching against Jordan and Iran, do you still want him? I rather have Toroman or any foreign coach not coaches that where pick do to influence "palakasan and hatakan" of Chot and Black

 

[PRIVATE RYAN2]

Let me try to understand what you're trying to say, int'l basketball relies more on ball movement rather than individual isolatiions, Ok i can buy that, And you're saying USA basketball realizes that as evidence by their change of approach from a dream team pick up system to one of more continuity (3 years program of Coach K, a college coach rather than a pro). Ok you have some merit there. Just be careful with your choice of words. e.g. thrives on system. as some systems take advantage of isolations, e.g . Triangle offense or drive and kick. While it relies less on ball movement it still is a system.
I would't be to harsh on PBA coaches like Yeng and chot, they are knowlegeble in their own right. What they might not have is the respect and reputation from FIBA referees and probably the same amount of experience in FIBA format tournaments (9 straight games) and rules (zone, goal tending rules).
I think what you are trying to say in regards to referees being "higher" than coaches /players is the tolerance level of referees on coaches and players complaint. Again a lot of this has to do with reputation. Toroman can scream his ass of and not get a technical , while if Chot stands up abruptly he could be called a technical. Call it double standards but it all comes with gaining respect.

Partying and being un- disciplined matters in regardless if you play internationally, college or in the pros

Chemistry and roles are important in regardless if you play the pro or international game.

talking about USA basketball, coach K took the "stars & stripes" to just 3rd place in 2006 FIBA World Championships. Yet USA Basketball did not fire coach K. 2 years later coach K took team USA to the olympic gold at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Americans were patient to give coach K a chance to redeem himself & the gambled paid off.

Coach Rajko Toroman took Philippine team to 4th place in the Asian Championships & he is on his way out.

More often, patience is what separates success from failure.

 

[kgi2]

with coach chot's blaming tactics....

I NOMINATE COACH YENG FOR SMART GILAS2 PROGRAM!


do u have a problem on that?

 

[nardy2]

well problem is .... no Chot Reyes .... no JaVale McGee.





#34 JAVALE MCGEE

Position: Center/Forward
Height: 7-0
Weight: 252 lbs.
Birthdate : January 19, 1988
College: Nevada
High School: Hales Franciscan, Chicago, IL
NBA Years: 3
Drafted: 18th Overall (First Round) By Washington In 2008

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/javale_mcgee/career_stats.html

Career Transactions: None

Professionally: Finished second in the NBA in total blocked shots (193) and blocks per game (2.4) in 2010-11…Scored a career-high 28 points and grabbed a career-high-tying 18 rebounds at GSW (3/27/11)…Recorded his first career triple-double with 11 points, 12 rebounds and a career-high 12 blocks at CHI (3/15/11)…In 2011 in Los Angeles, became the first player in franchise history to compete in the Slam Dunk Contest at All-Star Weekend…With a career-high 25 points and 15 rebounds in 30 minutes of play on 4/6/10 vs. GSW, became the first NBA player since Boston’s Kevin McHale (12/14/84) to record 25+ points and 15+ rebounds as a reserve in less than 31 minutes of play…Participated in the USA Basketball Men’s National Team mini-camp in Las Vegas in 2009 and 2010, and was tabbed as one of 15 finalists for the 12-man USA Men’s Basketball team for the 2010 World Championships.
Personally: Mother, Pamela McGee, was an All-American basketball player at Southern California who also played and coached in the WNBA…Is the first son of a WNBA player to be drafted in the NBA…His father, George Montgomery, played collegiately at Illinois…Has joined with team management and teammates for the Wizards annual “Family-to-Family Holiday Delivery,” to deliver toys, books, clothes, games and gift certificates to designated families in Washington, DC, who needed help with the holidays…In October of 2009, joined a contingent of teammates and coaches in Washington’s “Salute To The Stars,” honoring wounded servicemen and women for their service to the country…Was an early entry candidate in the 2008 NBA Draft…Attended Detroit Country Day HS and Providence Christian HS in Michigan before playing his senior season at Hales Franciscan in Chicago…Enjoys playing chess and video games.
2010-11: Appeared in a career-high 79 games (career-high 75 starts), and averaged career highs in points (10.1 ppg), rebounds (8.0 rpg), blocks (2.4 bpg), field goal percentage (.550) and minutes per game (27.8)…Led Washington in total rebounds (634), offensive rebounds (223), games played (79) and starts (75)…Grabbed 10+ rebounds in 28 games, and had 10 games with five or more blocks…Posted a career-high 21 double-doubles…Finished second in the NBA in total blocked shots (193), and recorded Washington’s highest single-season block total since 1989-90…Scored a career-high 28 points and grabbed a career-high tying 18 rebounds at GSW (3/27)…Recorded his first career triple-double with 11 points, 12 rebounds and a career-high 12 blocks at CHI (3/15)…His 12 blocks at CHI marked the most by any NBA player since ‘00-’01, and marked the most blocks in a triple-double effort since Shawn Bradley in 1998…Missed a total of three games; one for a team suspension (12/26), and two due to flulike symptoms (1/28-1/29).

 

[kgi2]

well problem is .... no Chot Reyes .... no JaVale McGee.

well in that case....

screw YENG! lets bring back CHOT as coach for GILAS2 program!
lets forget what he did! he just motivates his players!

do you have a problem on that?

 

[nardy2]

Pinoys really loves their Basketball. It's more fun in the Philippines.

 

[nardy2]

well in that case....

screw YENG! lets bring back CHOT as coach for GILAS2 program!
lets forget what he did! he just motivates his players!

do you have a problem on that?

actually I have no problem with Yeng as long as he is more committed in preparing the National Team than the time he was in charge in the Tianjin FIBA-Asia. But Personally I felt Coach Yeng is not that enthusiastic competing internationally than when he is in the PBA, I did not see the same fire in his eyes at that time and I strongly feel we could have done better that time. However its already water under the bridge and just accept said performance.

On who is to be the Next Coach, as I said time-and-time again, we are not in the position to make the decision .... it's in the hands of the ONLY PERSON WILLING TO FINANCE THE NATIONAL TEAM. Unfortunately at present time nobody else from either the Private sector nor Government is willing to step-up.

 

[kgi2]

actually I have no problem with Yeng as long as he is more committed in preparing the National Team than the time he was in charge in the Tianjin FIBA-Asia. But Personally I felt Coach Yeng is not that enthusiastic competing internationally than when he is in the PBA, I did not see the same fire in his eyes at that time and I strongly feel we could have done better that time. However its already water under the bridge and just accept said performance.

On who is to be the Next Coach, as I said time-and-time again, we are not in the position to make the decision .... it's in the hands of the ONLY PERSON WILLING TO FINANCE THE NATIONAL TEAM. Unfortunately at present time nobody else from either the Private sector nor Government is willing to step-up.

Unfortunately at present time nobody else from either the Private sector nor Government is willing to step-up.
sir does it mean that MVP gave up SMARTGILAS2 program? sayang nman po!

 

[rocketstar472]

my prospected line up

Chris BANCHERO
Greg SLAUGHTER
Joseph CASIO
Bobby PARKS
Stanley PRINGLE
Japeth AGUILAR
Junemar FAJARDO
Chris LUTZ
Kelly WILLIAMS
Marcio LASSITER
Javale MCGHEE
Kiefer RAVENA

 

[lovejones2]

Unfortunately at present time nobody else from either the Private sector nor Government is willing to step-up.
sir does it mean that MVP gave up SMARTGILAS2 program? sayang nman po!

Nope. What Nardy meant is no one from the private or public sectors except for MVP is willing to step up and help the team financially.

 

[SupaRuki2]

Kewl seeing all those fun in the phils photos, here's my share

 

[nardy2]

Nope. What Nardy meant is no one from the private or public sectors except for MVP is willing to step up and help the team financially.

Its not only in Basketball .... a lot of corporate sponsors we had in the past have now declined supporting sports teams and events. Even the San Miguel Group is very selective on which teams or events they are to support. When you approach the different Multi-National Corporations, commonly being said is that its the Group of MVP that should be approached and not them.

Its really sad as fewer and fewer could afford to help and I see at some point in the future there would be a saturation point for MVP being a Sports Philanthropist as more and more sports are becoming more dependent on him for assistance with the Government decreasing more and more of its financial backing in sports.

Due to the fast changing technology, sports is increasingly becoming more expensive to maintain. The Philippines not being a rich country financially is affecting our growth in sports as we are having a hard time keeping pace with the rest of the world.

 

[digitalsuperman2]

Patricia Hizon @patriciahizon

Someone is jumping ship! Not just ship but a totally different FLEET! he'll be on one with the 3stars and a sun. #pba



hmmmm...i think someone from SMB camp will jump to MVP camp.