PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. II)

[13wowowee2]

But still it's wrong! Then assuming they will offer him side contract or under the table, good thing if that side contract is only worth P50K. But for Douthit's case, it's impractical for the team to offer him a contract worth only P150K then an under the table deal of P450K just to match his current salary of accordingly US$15K (equivalent to more than P600K). It's crazy to do such thing!

haha.. and thats why MVP is out there for him..
and as ive said,as long as MVp wants to pay him then douhtit has no problem with the rookie's max pay.. WRONG?of course its wrong but they are not the only one who will do that..IMPRACTICAL?e kung gusto pala paglaruin ni MVP e..

 

[Big Ticket2]

own a business to understand why SMC is doing that...

 

[angmamatayngdahilsa'yo2]

own a business to understand why SMC is doing that...

agree. ideal is totally different from being practical.

 

[nardy2]

own a business to understand why SMC is doing that...

or at least get employed in a corporate environment.

there are just things that are not that simple.

 

[Big Ticket2]

in short, be in the real world.....not just depending on the allowances given by your folks...

it's survival of the fittest in the real world, kids!

 

[reamily2]

lol what if the board blocked Phoenix entry.... Barako Sale not gonna push through????

 

[nardy2]

lol what if the board blocked Phoenix entry.... Barako Sale not gonna push through????

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

 

[ariel_muhlach2]

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

Well that's life .... "Ganun talaga ang buhay"

the PBA is an exclusive Private Boys Club .....

So if you are not rich .... you're out. In other words "Pang-Mayaman lang ito"

 

[reamily2]

Mahirap yan pag mayayaman lang baka mamaya 2 lng kasi yung mayaman eh..

trans... if PBA is for the rich we might have two owners, at least we can divide PBA into two conferences/divisions

 

[Big Ticket2]

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

reiterating just what you posted:

"or at least get employed in a corporate environment.

there are just things that are not that simple."

 

[ogre2]

I'm just a "small" boy and I don't know how this corporate ek-ek works. Even Belle is taller than me.

 

[QWERTY12342]

MONEY...MONEY....MONEY......MONEY......MONEY.....
MONEY.... AND MORE MONEY

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

 

[nardy2]

reiterating just what you posted:

"or at least get employed in a corporate environment.

there are just things that are not that simple."

Yes I know .... but cant help being sad about it however thats how it really is in the business world, nothing comes free .... Thats why its called Business and not Charity.

 

[momax2]

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

Very pathetic this fraternity of PBA owners. There is one common denominator GREED. In their world if you are not Greedy you wont survive.

 

[angmamatayngdahilsa'yo2]

that's why I feel really sorry for Barako Bull team owner George Chua, that sale could have helped him get funds to save his fledging business but it seems the PBA would block it. I also could not take the selfishness and greediness of the other PBA Owners, they also shot down the suggestion of MVP that whatever gate-receipts and TV Revenues generated by SMART GILAS participation in the on-going conference is to be given to Barako Bull but instead they want to divide it among themselves. It's just sad ....

They have taken into account of the contribution of Red Bull in the PBA and that George Chua was also once a distinguish member of the exclusive club of PBA Team Owners.

Is this how you treat a comrade who is now down and is needing help.

this adds up to my admiration of the MVP. a great man.

 

[nardy2]

Bleachers' Brew #252 Iba ang may pinagsamahan

This appears in the Monday March 21, 2011 edition of the Business Mirror.


Iba ang may pinagsamahan
by rick olivares​

I was talking about the current predicament of the San Miguel Beermen with some friends and former SMB players the other day and I realized that there are some things that bear much gleaning into and there are others that don’t.


Does that make sense?


Uh, let’s try to figure it out.


It’s a rebuilding phase. If it were truly that, then why not make the trade before the start of the current conference? That way, they would have a little more time to jell.


So I postulated to one former Beerman who was himself perplexed by the changes that this was done while they had some players with trade value. That player nodded in agreement as I pointed out that the same fate befell current head coach Ato Agustin who was traded to Sunkist for Nelson Asaytono after the title drought of the mid-90s. Alvin Teng, another regular on SMB’s rotation was likewise traded.


It is certainly also possible that management thought that this current team had run its course and they needed to reload because in the last two PBA conference championships, they fell respectively to the Alaska Aces and the Talk ‘N Text Tropang Texters. One former Beerman thought that some players like Danny Seigle and Dorian Peña were slowing down, hence, the need for younger legs.


Agustin told me that that one factor was that opening day loss in the Commissioners Cup where the Beermen lost to Air21 92-87. It seems that management thought that there was no fight in the players and that forced their hand.


Maybe the Beermen didn’t want to experience what the Boston Celtics did when their 1980’s teams got old as some of their star players hung up their sneakers or passed away. Looking at their champion teams of old. San Miguel didn’t get anything following the retirement of Hec Calma, Samboy Lim and Allan Caidic. And the transition to their next gen champion teams wasn’t smooth.


It’s probable that this represents a changing of cultures. It’s still a business and they’d love for nothing more than to keep the wins and championships coming. But I am curious of many recent moves that include the jettisoning of former coach Siot Tanquingcen whose teams were always in the hunt for a title (he won one out of two title series for the Beermen) in the middle of a championship series no less.


I wondered to my SMB friends if the team is going to take a hit this conference for their future and they concurred since there was a slightly similar situation to what they went through in the 1990s when they reloaded with their third generation team that featured Olsen Racela, Danny Ildefonso, Dondon Hontiveros, Peña, Seigle, and others.


One player, who asked not to be named, said that with the recent trades and new faces – Nonoy Baclao, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra, and Paolo Hubalde – chemistry is a problem as players have yet to grasp their roles. To compound the problem, when players come in during games, rather than pass the ball, they look to score. However, in the same breath, that player also expressed belief that this is all temporary and that things will click soon.


If you ask me, the wheeling and dealing isn’t done. I’d say they’d make another trade before they go with a particular team for the long haul. And there's the new name change from San Miguel to Petron that sounds weird.


We like things to be perfect but they aren’t. Iba ang may pinagsamahan is just a snazzy tag line that that was cooked up two decades ago although they did brought some of those fabled players back in the fold in various capacities. In fact, Calma, Lim, Caidic, Arthur dela Cruz, and Freddie Abuda are on the coaching staffs of the various SMB teams in the PBA. Even Pido Jarencio, who burned a hole in a deep deep bench and was traded soon after is back as an assistant. So I wouldn’t be surprised if these former Beermen will find eventually their way back into the fold in one capacity or another. And you can bet that should they change to Petron, one day they'll be back to SMB. After all, iba ang may pinagsamahan.


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Posted by Rick Olivares

 

[nardy2]

With Bulls sale pending, Govs Cup field down to 9

Sunday, 20 March 2011 18:43
Joel Orellana




THE Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) would like to keep an even number of teams, but revealed it is possible that only nine would see action in the coming Governors’ Cup.


League commissioner Chito Salud said Barako Bull has formally informed them that it will no longer participate in the season-ending conference.


At the same time, the George Chua-owned team told the PBA its plan to sell its franchise to Phoenix Petroleum Philippines, which will be discussed in a board meeting on Friday.


“We could have nine or it could remain to 10. These are all possibilities,” Salud told the BusinessMirror on Sunday.


Barako Bull, which is currently on leave, cited three reasons it is no longer interested in keeping the franchise although Salud said this still needs board approval.


“One, they said that they have an ongoing legal battle with their principals,” said Salud, referring to the issue on the legality of being the rightful distributor of energy drink Red Bull in the Philippines.


“Second, the loss of Tony Chua really hurt them because he’s the head of basketball operations of the franchise for a while and, third, they are shifting to new fields and they say it might be difficult for them to continue running the franchise in the PBA,” he added.


Chua was one of the many casulties in the Ondoy typhoon that hit the country in 2009.


If the board gives a go signal to the sale of the Barako Bull franchise to Phoenix Petroleum, the PBA will keep a 10-team field in the Governors’ Cup.


But San Miguel Beer’s decision to change its brand name to Petron Blaze in the third conference raised doubts whether it will push through as the league honors a veritable lockout to competitors of an existing member team.


In the ongoing Commissioner’s Cup, Smart Gilas-Pilipinas is using Barako Bull’s spot.


There are reports that the national team is weighing its options on whether to compete anew in the PBA. The nationals will be busy in the coming months as they prepare for the Fiba-Asia Men’s Championship in Wuhan, China, this September.


“As of now, they have yet to inform us if they will participate or not,” said Salud.


National team head coach Rajko Toroman of Serbia said they haven’t reached a decision yet whether to continue playing in the PBA but team manager Frankie Lim said in a text message that: “It depends. If they will allow us to play, we will.”


The Governors’ Cup runs from May to July but Toroman’s team is eyeing international tournaments prior to the Fiba-Asia tournament, the qualifier for the 2012 London Olympics.

(Joel Orellana)

 

[nardy2]

Is the PBA still a viable marketing vehicle for small companies?

Is the PBA still a viable marketing vehicle for small companies?

Barako 3rd PBA franchise to fold up in last 6 years

REY JOBLE, GMA News
03/20/2011 | 07:30 PM

Barako Bull is expected to become the third franchise of the Philippine Basketball Association to fold up since 2005.

The Photokina franchise has already informed the PBA Commissioner’s Office that the team will not compete anymore in the season-ending Third Conference.

PBA Commissioner Atty. Chito Salud confirmed this development to GMA News.

“They wrote the PBA and informed us that they will not return in the third conference," Salud said in a telephone interview.

Shell Philippines, which bought the franchise of the legendary Crispa Redmanizers in 1985, played in the league for 21 seasons before selling the ball club to Asian Coatings, Inc. of Welcoat/Rain or Shine.

Sta. Lucia, which acquired the franchise of Presto/Great Taste of the Gokongwei family in 1992, also folded up at the end of the league’s 35th season and sold the ball club to Meralco.

But Barako Bull bidding goodbye has been expected as early as three years ago when the team started unloading its marquee players one after another.

According to Salud, George Chua, owner of Barako Bull, cited the reasons for his team’s decision to leave the PBA — the company’s continuing legal battle against its principal, the loss of main basketball man Tony Chua,and the company’s decision to shift its focus to another field.

Barako Bull’s Energy Food and Drinks Inc, the exclusive distributor of Red Bull Energy Drink products in the Philippines, filed a legal case against TC Pharmaceuticals Industries Co., manufacturer of Red Bull in Thailand, and the legal battle is still ongoing.

Tony Chua, Barako Bull’s team manager, board governor and former PBA chairman, died two years ago at the height of the wrath of typhoon Ondoy.

Also included in the letter is the intention of Barako Bull to sell its PBA franchise to Phoenix Petroleum Philippines, sponsor of the league’s road games for several years now.

“Barako has identified a projected buyer in Phoenix Petroleum, and the PBA board will decide whether it will accept Phoenix as the league’s newest member or not," added Salud.

Members of the PBA board headed by Rene Pardo of B-Meg Derby Ace (fourth
from right) will meet again this week to discuss the fate of Phoenix Petroleum,
the company keen on taking over the Barako Bull franchise. GMANews.TV

The possible entry of Phoenix Petroleum as well as the decision of Barako Bull to bid goodbye will be topics of discussion in the next board meeting, which will be held either Tuesday or Friday this week.

“The board has decided to postpone its planned board meeting in the second Tuesday of this month, because the board chairman wants full attendance," added Salud.

Earlier, San Miguel Corporation notified the PBA Commissioner’s Office of the team’s name change for the third conference. The Beermen have decided to use Petron Blaze, one of its brands from its petroleum company.

Whether the move is San Miguel’s way of preempting the possible entry of Phoenix or just a way to promote one of its companies remains to be seen.

Teams come and go: a familiar trend

The economic pinch has always been the primary reason for teams folding up in the PBA’s 36-year history.

Basketball historians Jay P. Mercado and Atty. Percival Flores and well-known basketball analyst Andy Jao believe companies’ difficulties in continuing to finance their ball clubs would be one of the obvious reasons for folding up.

But they all agreed it won’t have a tremendous impact on Asia’s first play-for-pay league.

“The disbandment of Shell, Sta. Lucia and Barako Bull reminds me of the first 10 years of the PBA when teams came and went," said Mercado, business development manager of a popular fast-food chain and a regular writer of Pinoy Exchange sports forum.

According to Mercado, the first 11 years of the PBA were survival years.

Mercado, who passionately rooted for Crispa, and later on Ginebra, when Billy Ray Bates was acquired by the Gin Kings after he had led the Redmanizers to their second Grand Slam, recalled the teams that folded up in the first 10 years of the league.

“The first team to disband was Carrier after the 1976 season. Then, 7-Up disbanded and Filmanbank bought the franchise. Gilbey’s made it to a 9-team cast again in 1979. The Bankers disbanded, but Galleon Shippers got the franchise and then Tefilin joined to make it a 10-team field. At the end of 1981, Tefilin and Galleon disbanded, and in 1983, Winston joined the league in the same year that U-Tex disbanded."

Mercado noted that tthe Philippine economy collapsed in 1983 due to the assassination of Senator Ninoy Aquino, and then the unthinkable happened — Crispa and Toyota, which helped shape the popularity of the PBA and composed what many people still believe as the greatest rivalry in PBA history, also folded up.

“Beer Hausen bought the franchise of Toyota in 1984 and Shell bought Crispa’s franchise in 1985," added Mercado.

Atty. Flores agreed with Mercado’s insights.

“It has something to do with economics and that’s it," added Flores, legal counsel of a well-known land developer in the country and a regular writer of MYPBA, a rich source of basketball information.

But will the exit of a third PBA franchise in a six-year span create a negative impact on the PBA?

“There are two things to look into here. One, the PBA appears robust with 10 teams, which matched the most number of participants in the league. What makes it precarious is that half of the cast is owned by two companies — San Miguel Corporation and Smart Communications/PLDT," said Mercado.

Jao, who worked as a coaching staff of the U-Tex Wranglers, served as a board member of the PBA during the 1980s and joined the television panel for quite a time, has a more positive outlook.

“Shell, Sta. Lucia and Barako Bull stayed in the PBA for a long time. Maybe participation no longer fits their marketing purposes. I am sure there will be others which will take up the cudgels," said Jao, himself a former team manager of Red Bull. - KY, GMA News

 

[nardy2]

Timeout from basketball ..... Tsismis muna

Chris Tiu happy with Carmen Soo

Published : Monday, March 21, 2011 00:00
Written by : Gerry Ocampo
​

SUPER-BUSY talaga ng schedule ni Chris Tiu.

Nag-overnight trip siya to Singapore sa gitna ng kanyang hectic sked bilang sikat na basketball player at TV personality.

Si Chris ang ipinadala ng Adidas sa Singapore para sa isang fashion show event ng sports wear.

Tsika sa amin, nagkita sina Chris at Carmen Soo sa Singapore at sa twitter ay nakita namin ang picture ng dalawa. Para sa mga malis-yoso, iisipin nilang nagkakamabutihan na sina Chris at Carmen.

Pagtatapat nga pala ni Chris, nag-enjoy siya sa ma-ikling panahon niya sa Singapore with Carmen Soo sa gitna ng pagiging busy niya sa ‘Pinas na kung saan may dalawa siyang programa sa GMA7, ang Ripleys Believe It Or at Hanepbuhay.

 

[lovejones2]

Timeout from basketball ..... Tsismis muna

Who wouldn't be happy if you're with a girl like this: