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New "Mediterranean League"

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Mediterranean League almost a Fact!

Mediterranean League almost a Fact!

It seems that the Mediterranean League is becoming reality. There are now strong indications that the first official steps have already been taken. The main question now is when the first season will start. Next season? Οr maybe the year after?

In any case, Qatar and FIBA Asia has officially confirmed that they want to be part of it.

Here is an article:
http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=309&a=137368
 
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Victorious said:
It seems that the Mediterranean League is becoming reality. There are now strong indications that the first official steps have already been taken. The main question now is when the first season will start. Next season? Οr maybe the year after?

In any case, Qatar and FIBA Asia has officially confirmed that they want to be part of it.

Here is an article:
http://jcmr-online.com/content/10/1/42/table/T3
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Are you sure of the link :D?

I got: "Death rates from all causes in thalassaemia major in the UK, by decade".

P.S: Need any help on your research medical report :p?
 
Billy Bounce said:
Adriatic league is a success because it's a direct successor of Yugoslav League : you guys are still fighting your old battles.

If it was something unrelated and artificial like VTB , let's say Cibona, Nymburk, Prokom, Azovmash , Zadar , Kalev ; I doubt it would generate the same public interest as Adriatic League

Besides, IIRC all NLB league teams are within 3-4 hours of a bus ride : the meaning - no flights and renting hotels needed .
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Mediterranean league will work too. Fenerbahçe-Galatasaray-Beşiktaş and Olympiacos-Panathinaikos, Paok-Aris rivalaries will continue there. If I remember correctly, 4-5 Turkish and 4-5 Greek teams will be there. Plus Turk-Greek games also always have high adrenalin.

Travelling for MTA will be hard but I don't think so for Turkish and Greek teams. İstanbul-Athens just 1.5 hour. And İstanbul-İzmir-Ankara 1 hour, İstanbul-Antalya-Mersin-Trabzon almost 2 hours. I guess Greek teams also travel at least 2-3 hours by bus.
 
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I really support this idea because in Turkish League there is a limit of 5 foreigner players in roster. If there was just 2 contenders like before 2006, amount of national players would be enough. But now Fener and Efes trying to do good job in EL, it means they should have at least 5x2, 10 national players in EL level. Galatasaray, Beşiktaş and Telekom also challenge for final in the league, so they should have at least 5x3, 15 good players too. In NBA we have 5 players now. But it's not easy to have 25-30 national players in EL level. So it drops league quality.

If Mediterranean league comes true, there will be no limit to sign foreigners for big clubs. İt means their quality will increase and average Turkish players will go to the others clubs and their quality will increase too. Then bringing to the league limit of 3 foreigners will help young players to get more playing time and develop. Great for Turkish basketball, really great...
 
iskoch said:
Mediterranean league will work too. Fenerbahçe-Galatasaray-Beşiktaş and Olympiacos-Panathinaikos, Paok-Aris rivalaries will continue there. If I remember correctly, 4-5 Turkish and 4-5 Greek teams will be there. Plus Turk-Greek games also always have high adrenalin.

Travelling for MTA will be hard but I don't think so for Turkish and Greek teams. İstanbul-Athens just 1.5 hour. And İstanbul-İzmir-Ankara 1 hour, İstanbul-Antalya-Mersin-Trabzon almost 2 hours. I guess Greek teams also travel at least 2-3 hours by bus.
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Yes, I don't think travel time is an issue. Once you get in the airplane, it doesn't matter if it's 45 mins or 1.5 hours.

You really got a point. It will be a league full of derbies. Imagine five teams leading the standings and another five which are trailing the bigs and are able to surprise them at any moment. That would be great. Every week would have at least two derbies in this kind of competition.

But you re wrong about the number of teams. 3 to 4 Turkish and Greeks will take part of the competition. A good number for starters.
 
iskoch said:
I really support this idea because in Turkish League there is a limit of 5 foreigner players in roster. If there was just 2 contenders like before 2006, amount of national players would be enough. But now Fener and Efes trying to do good job in EL, it means they should have at least 5x2, 10 national players in EL level. Galatasaray, Beşiktaş and Telekom also challenge for final in the league, so they should have at least 5x3, 15 good players too. In NBA we have 5 players now. But it's not easy to have 25-30 national players in EL level. So it drops league quality.

If Mediterranean league comes true, there will be no limit to sign foreigners for big clubs. İt means their quality will increase and average Turkish players will go to the others clubs and their quality will increase too. Then bringing to the league limit of 3 foreigners will help young players to get more playing time and develop. Great for Turkish basketball, really great...
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The way I see it. A basketball country like the USA has about 30 high quality teams. That's about 1 NBA team per 11 million people. When you bear in mind that there also many foreign players in the NBA, you come to the conclusion that one needs a great amount of talent to create a high quality team.

So the competition system in Europe is a flaw. No country in Europe can produce enough talent to create an professional basketball league on a decent and competitive level. Many teams are bound to lack the talent to be able to compete with better ones. That's why many national leagues are not interesting. They are too predictable and the level is not high and/or attractive enough.

The Med League sounds like a great idea. Two interesting games a week would be good for the promotion of the game.
 
Victorious said:
The way I see it. A basketball country like the USA has about 30 high quality teams. That's about 1 NBA team per 11 million people. When you bear in mind that there also many foreign players in the NBA, you come to the conclusion that one needs a great amount of talent to create a high quality team.

So the competition system in Europe is a flaw. No country in Europe can produce enough talent to create an professional basketball league on a decent and competitive level. Many teams are bound to lack the talent to be able to compete with better ones. That's why many national leagues are not interesting. They are too predictable and the level is not high and/or attractive enough.

The Med League sounds like a great idea. Two interesting games a week would be good for the promotion of the game.
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ex yougoslavia once was, and was based only on domestic talent (over 26 milions people).....adriatic league can (not domestic league and one coutrie anymore, but proves it can be done)...................only problem is money as evry player leavs afrter first good season
 
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pohani komarac said:
ex yougoslavia once was, and was based only on domestic talent (over 26 milions people).....adriatic league can (not domestic league and one coutrie anymore, but proves it can be done)...................only problem is money as evry player leavs afrter first good season
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The level standard was lower back then. By modern standards, there is no way they could assemble enough talent to be more competitive than say, the ACB.
 
Victorious said:
The level standard was lower back then. By modern standards, there is no way they could assemble enough talent to be more competitive than say, the ACB.
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the fact that in those years basketball level was low in other countries doesn't mean that level of ex yu leage was low...all neded that our best and average players stay in our clubs......kukoc and radja in split, djordjevic and danilovic in partizan, komazec and bodiroga in zadar, zdovc in olimpija,....and many other great players and very good ones like paspalj, radulovic, perasovic, savic, sobin, saric and so on

now nlb is very competitive league, among best in eurpe while our clubs are based on few vets who are ending careres, average players, young prospects and few cheep foregions who are mostley worse player than those who plays outside of our clubs

list of some players fro ex-yu i can remeber right away

nba-udrih, dragic, pavlovic, stojakovic, milicic, krstic, radmanovic, pekovic

euroleague (no our clubs)-lorbek, perovic, lakovic, tomic, velickovic, begic, mirotic, barac, teletovic, bijelica n., musli, tepic, savanovic, macvan, tomas, ukic, preldzic, vidmar, turckan (jahovic), vujcic, rakocevic, nahbar, raduljica, teodosic, keselj, nesterovic, erceg, tepic, smodis, marjanovic, planinic, locar, gordic, djedovic, dasic, varda, rakovic, bijelica m., milosevic

others that play elswere-popovic m., rizvic, vranes, popovic b., marinovic, vujanic, peric, nicevic, delas, markovic, vrkic, kus, udrih s., suton, bagaric, pasalic, andric, gecevski....and so on.........

oh yeah coaches to....ivkovic, ivanovic, obradovic, spahija, perasovic, filipovski, vujosevic, repesa, pesic, petrovic, trifunovic, pavicevic

no other leage in europe is facing so many absentes of domestic talent

put those guys with best what is left like ilijevski, ozbolt, markota, giricek, bogdanovic, zoric, kasun, car, nedovic, mulamerovic, simon, kecman, pavkovic, dragicevic, rakocevic m.....and so on...and buch of very taleted players.....you would get hell of league....might not better than acb, but up there with acb

so yes it posible with good work and litle bit of money
 
pohani komarac said:
the fact that in those years basketball level was low in other countries doesn't mean that level of ex yu leage was low...all neded that our best and average players stay in our clubs......kukoc and radja in split, djordjevic and danilovic in partizan, komazec and bodiroga in zadar, zdovc in olimpija,....and many other great players and very good ones like paspalj, radulovic, perasovic, savic, sobin, saric and so on

now nlb is very competitive league, among best in eurpe while our clubs are based on few vets who are ending careres, average players, young prospects and few cheep foregions who are mostley worse player than those who plays outside of our clubs

list of some players fro ex-yu i can remeber right away

nba-udrih, dragic, pavlovic, stojakovic, milicic, krstic, radmanovic, pekovic

euroleague (no our clubs)-lorbek, perovic, lakovic, tomic, velickovic, begic, mirotic, barac, teletovic, bijelica n., musli, tepic, savanovic, macvan, tomas, ukic, preldzic, vidmar, turckan (jahovic), vujcic, rakocevic, nahbar, raduljica, teodosic, keselj, nesterovic, erceg, tepic, smodis, marjanovic, planinic, locar, gordic, djedovic, dasic, varda, rakovic, bijelica m., milosevic

others that play elswere-popovic m., rizvic, vranes, popovic b., marinovic, vujanic, peric, nicevic, delas, markovic, vrkic, kus, udrih s., suton, bagaric, pasalic, andric, gecevski....and so on.........

oh yeah coaches to....ivkovic, ivanovic, obradovic, spahija, perasovic, filipovski, vujosevic, repesa, pesic, petrovic, trifunovic, pavicevic

no other leage in europe is facing so many absentes of domestic talent

put those guys with best what is left like ilijevski, ozbolt, markota, giricek, bogdanovic, zoric, kasun, car, nedovic, mulamerovic, simon, kecman, pavkovic, dragicevic, rakocevic m.....and so on...and buch of very taleted players.....you would get hell of league....might not better than acb, but up there with acb

so yes it posible with good work and litle bit of money
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Yes, today the adriatic league would have 2 Final Four favorites and another 3 teams on a highly competitive Euroleague level.

Maybe you could assemble an ACB level league with home grown talent. Still, you d have one or two NBA teams, at most. That´s about the same analogy (population/talent) as the USA.

So, my position still stands. Competitions in Europe have to be marginalized in order to create more competitive leagues on a high level.
 
so basicly you wannt nba level leagues in europe:eek:

that's only posible if it's created one unique league in rich areas where evreyone else works for those like ncaa....but that is not posible

or if you invest bilions and bilions of euros in Nigeria and some other African countrie and create legue there

othere case scenario not posible
 
pohani komarac said:
so basicly you wannt nba level leagues in europe:eek:

that's only posible if it's created one unique league in rich areas where evreyone else works for those like ncaa....but that is not posible

or if you invest bilions and bilions of euros in Nigeria and some other African countrie and create legue there

othere case scenario not posible
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No, the pool of talent in Europe is not deep enough to create an NBA level league. But the European game is different and fans greatly appreciate a basketball game on Euroleague level.
 
Victorious said:
So, my position still stands. Competitions in Europe have to be marginalized in order to create more competitive leagues on a high level.
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I think top European teams should build a new league with NBA model and stop playing in national leagues.
Soon or late it will happen, I can't see another way...
 
Victorious said:
Al Jazeera (based in Qatar) wants the broadcast rights of the Med basketball League.

http://www.sportdog.gr/article/12528/sto-al-jazeera-e-mesogeiake-liga
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I'm not surprised :D... I'm assuming they would have a huge budget compared to the other networks who might want to cover this tournament.

In Turkey Al Jazeera had journalists in all the cities during the WC.

Moreover since Lebanon and Jordan were representing the Arab countries in the WC Al Jazeera dedicated a special team/delegation of correspondents in Izmir and Kayseri to give a more detailed coverage for these teams.

I remember the journalists also came to ask us fans about our journey to Izmir and about the Lebanese NT and our expectations for the team (Many of us were quite euphoric after our first game when we beat Canada and we were all hoping and confident that we will qualify to the second round :D)
 
Vassilakopoulos has worked out agreements with a lot of teams and leagues already. He has already got these teams:


Greece

1. Olympiacos
2. Panathinaikos
3. Aris
4. Panellinios

Turkey

1. Fenerbahce
2. Efes
3. Besiktas
4. Turk Telekom

Israel

1. Maccabi Tel Aviv
2. Hapoel Jerusalem

Serbia

1. Partizan

Bulgaria

1. Lukoil Akademik


And then he has also gotten the agreement with the leagues in Lebanon, Cyprus, and Qatar that the champion of each season from each league will also participate in the Mediterranean League.

Right now he is also in negotiations with Galatasaray, Montepaschi Siena, Roma, and Olimpia Milano.

He has already gotten the basic agreement to have the games broadcast on TV in the Mideast and Africa and also to have the games available online for free across the whole world, much like the Spanish ACB League does. And he is also working on getting the games broadcast on TV throughout Europe.

He is even working on getting the games broadcast on NBA TV and online at ESPN3.com in the United States and Canada. The plan is to start the league next season, and no later than the season after that.
 
FIBA Europe Basket said:
Vassilakopoulos has worked out agreements with a lot of teams and leagues already. He has already got these teams:


Greece

1. Olympiacos
2. Panathinaikos
3. Aris
4. Panellinios

Turkey

1. Fenerbahce
2. Efes
3. Besiktas
4. Turk Telekom

Israel

1. Maccabi Tel Aviv
2. Hapoel Jerusalem

Serbia

1. Partizan

Bulgaria

1. Lukoil Akademik


And then he has also gotten the agreement with the leagues in Lebanon, Cyprus, and Qatar that the champion of each season from each league will also participate in the Mediterranean League.

Right now he is also in negotiations with Galatasaray, Montepaschi Siena, Roma, and Olimpia Milano.

He has already gotten the basic agreement to have the games broadcast on TV in the Mideast and Africa and also to have the games available online for free across the whole world, much like the Spanish ACB League does. And he is also working on getting the games broadcast on TV throughout Europe.

He is even working on getting the games broadcast on NBA TV and online at ESPN3.com in the United States and Canada. The plan is to start the league next season, and no later than the season after that.
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Panellinios ??? Paok was the forth candidate.
 
Adriatic League has a long-lasting agreement with ULEB. If you think Adriatic League will just give up their best teams to this new league... you are wrong.
 
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