Interbasket Demographics & Survey Data

[stuart2]

Survey added: I included Mexico in Central America... and did the survey in a way to allow for some ambiguous countries to be included. So if you are from Turkey or Georgia or Israel etc., you have the choice to choose whatever region you feel comfortable with. Feel free to voice your opinion if you feel that your country should be included in a specific region/area or if i've made a mistake.

Stuart

stuart
03-11-2004, 01:38 PM

So, I was wondering what is the demographics of our little site thus far...

what is your background?

Since I only have 10 options to list I couldn't do individual countries for obvious reasons. So I tried to be as specific and as general as possible at the same time. If I made any mistakes or omitted anything, please forgive my ignorance (I left out Antartica on purpose)

Just curious to see what the InterBasket rainbow looks like...

NaFioN
03-11-2004, 02:26 PM

Good idea !!!!!

But one thing about Turkey .... Turkey is in Europe ??? Well i have some doubts, most of its territory is in Asia. Even if Turkey is in Europe..... but for god's sake why East Europe??? c'mon.....

stuart
03-11-2004, 02:51 PM

I've taken Turkey out of the Eastern Europe list and anyone from there (IcedHell) can select it whichever they see fit. I just went with what knowledge I had that it the country actually sits on three continents... and after doing some more research to try and pare it down to one, I still could not determine.

Sorry, if any offense was taken from this. I'll PM IcedHell and see what he says...

Stuart

NaFioN
03-11-2004, 03:15 PM

well of course i am not offended by Turkey being part of Europe. But i never saw before that Turkey is part of Eastern Europe. Politically they claim that they are Western Europe. Well I hope that IcedHell will know better.....

Eastern Mediterranean. Located on two continents Europe and Asia. The European part of Turkey is called Thrace, while the Asian part is called Anatolia or ( Asia Minor )

% 3 on the European continent
% 97 on the Asian continent

K-2 Young
03-11-2004, 07:04 PM

I think the Caribbean is custom made for me , right???
Too much sun, now is better!!!

J-Will2
03-12-2004, 12:37 AM

(I left out Antartica on purpose)

regrettable.

Juan Carlos Nadal
03-12-2004, 12:59 AM

http://www.oia.net/[/URL]

Ans althouigh not updated for ages, a brief but good presentation of Armenians in Istanbul
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5503/

Juan Carlos Nadal
03-12-2004, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Icedhell
no problem.
all of these confusing things will be ended when I will be a NBa player.

NBA, as in Nigerian Brotherhood of Auto-racing?

worldbasketball
03-12-2004, 11:49 AM

Actually fiona since you mention, the region of the Caucasus as well poses a problem of where to put. For example Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia these are considered as Europe or Asia.

If we follow the example of Israel who play in Europe (be it basketball or soccer) they should be placed in Europe.

But the Open Directory project considers them in Asia.

Also examples are other "Eurasians"

EverGreen
03-12-2004, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Juan Carlos Nadal
Kayseri? Do you know anyone that has graduated from Erciyes University?

worldbasketball
03-12-2004, 03:51 PM

It is almost official that at least activity-wise most of the participants are Eastern European which is no surprise to me at all.

I think they must be the most keen on basketball.

K-2 Young
03-12-2004, 05:39 PM

Can someone lie and write that you are from the caribbean too???
I feel so alone, or lonely or whatever it is, now im getting frustated!

worldbasketball
03-12-2004, 05:46 PM

I am not from the Caribbean but I sure hope I were.

Today it snowed yet again in Montreal. It is promissing to be a never-ending winter here...

NaFioN
03-12-2004, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by josean
Can someone lie and write that you are from the caribbean too???
I feel so alone, or lonely or whatever it is, now im getting frustated!

if it could make you feel better i could register with a different nickname and vote for carribean i have voted already, so i cant lie anymore .....

K-2 Young
03-12-2004, 05:57 PM

i have voted already, so i cant lie anymore .....

That is great, so.........

you already lied!!!!!!

NaFioN
03-12-2004, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by josean
you already lied!!!!!!

heh, i have to admit that i am the biggest liar in the world. yap that's me

Matiz
03-13-2004, 02:16 AM

Actually not "Little Asia" but "Asia Minor"
Minor (=oppositte of maior) means in latin: tiny or little. so it's only the matter of translating it into english or latin...

worldbasketball
03-13-2004, 07:03 AM

Yes it must be a literal translation. The official name is Asia Minor though.

Little is used in geograhy but for ethnic quarters in certain big cities. Like for example, wherever you go in big American city, you find "Little Italy" etc.

That's how it used...

Icedhell
03-13-2004, 08:35 AM

we turks and armenians had lived with each others for hundred years.our village name is Tama.

worldbasketball
03-13-2004, 08:47 AM

It's great to hear that Icedhell.
I have never heard of Tama though. It would be in what area, near what big city for example?

Do you have good basketball you follow?
Just what attracted you to basketball?

Icedhell
03-14-2004, 05:07 AM

Erzincan;Kemaliye
My grand grandparents coming from there.there were many armenians in our town called kemaliye.and still there are a few churches there.
kemaliye web site (http://www.kemaliye.net)
I dont know what attracted me.at highschool My friends were playing basketball and I started with them.

worldbasketball
03-14-2004, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Icedhell
Erzincan;Kemaliye
My grand grandparents coming from there.there were many armenians in our town called kemaliye.and still there are a few churches there.
kemaliye web site (http://www.kemaliye.net)
I dont know what attracted me.at highschool My friends were playing basketball and I started with them.

Now I recognize the area you are talking about. Actually the Armenian name for Erzincan is Yerzenga. It is always prone to earthquakes. In history it was totally destroyed by an earthquake. In 1939 again a huge devastation. And in 1992 it also suffered heavily.

So you play decent basketball? In MIscellany section, we have a thread about those who play good basketball. Check it.

J-Will2
03-17-2004, 05:49 AM

This survey answers many questions...

Juan Carlos Nadal
03-17-2004, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by J-Will2"]This survey answers many questions...

You mean the disproportinal posting numbers seen in the lith and greek sites?

11Aistis83
03-26-2004, 03:05 PM

my heart is still in Lithuania....

NaFioN
03-26-2004, 03:09 PM

at the moment 45 percent of all votes go for Eastern Europe, i just wonder how many of those votes are for Lithuania. When you try to imagine.... heh disproportional posting issue becomes even more serious

worldbasketball
03-26-2004, 03:10 PM

Aistis
We have so many Lithuanians on our board here, it feels like almost home...

But the real thing is something else, I agree.

I don't know about other things Lithuanian.

But as far as Lithuanian basketball goes though, you will not miss a beat I assure you.

11Aistis83
03-26-2004, 03:11 PM

me!!! me!!! im from Lithuania (altough i live in USA)

 

[stuart2]

stuart
03-27-2004, 09:57 AM

Since some of you are probably wondering or have wondered our loud... I can list some of the demo votes without revealing names...

Americas, Caribbean
Puerto Rico - 1

Americas, North
USA - 4

Asia and the Middle East
Lebanon- 1

Europe, Eastern
Lithuania - 5
Russia - 1
Turkey - 1
Slovenia - 2
Unknown - 1

Europe, Western
Greece - 4
France - 1
Spain - 1

We have many from Lithuania, Spain, and Greece that have yet to vote, and some new members (from Brazil, Israel, Croatia) that haven't seen this poll yet.. I am hoping that they take notice of it now.

Stuart

Juan Carlos Nadal
03-27-2004, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by stuart
Europe, Eastern
Lithuania - 5
Russia - 1
Turkey - 1
Slovenia - 2
Unknown - 1

The "unknown" is probably me.

Bulgaria it is then.

K-2 Young
03-27-2004, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by stuart
Americas, Caribbeanm Puerto Rico - 1

mmmmmmmm, Who would it be??

After all the re-aligning retroactively in the last survey (Turkey, Middle East, Israel, Caribbean... etc.) , does anyone remember how I divided the survey last time and what corrections can be made this time around?

Stuart

 

[Levenspiel2]

I was quite late for the discussion that time, but I remember you had used a division method like this:

West European (Germany, Spain, Italy, etc)
East European (Greece, Lithuania, Latvia, etc)
Middle East (Israel, Lebanon, Iran, etc)

and where to put Turkey was still ambiguous. (In fact, if you ask me, even I cannot decide - But I recall having posted a little clarifying message on this subject.)

 

[23_for_life2]

I remember you had North America (USA and Canada) and then Central America (Mexico, Belice, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc, etc) then South America.

Another discussion was to whether to put Mexico on North America or Central America. Officially is North America... but do as you wish

 

[stuart2]

sariss, 23, thanks for your help on this. For the purposes of this demographic, I will include Mexico in Central America. This is what I came up with. The only difference, from what I can remember, is I included Central America and the Caribbean together as I saw several geography sites do this.

Asia (China, Philippines, Japan)
Africa (Angola, Nigeria, Sudan, )
North America (US and Canada)
Central America and Caribbean (Mexico*, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua)
South America (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, etc.)
West European (Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy, France, etc)
East European (Lithuania, Latvia, Slovenia, Poland, Serbia & Montenegro, etc)
Middle East (Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, etc)
Oceania (Australia and New Zealand)
Other

I am excited to start the demographic again 3 years later and after our recent blackout... we now have a more diverse crowd than when IBN first began and am interested in how IBN demographic has changed, if any.

Stuart

 

[Victorious2]

The European division is wrong. The European continent should be divided in the following order.

Western-Europe:

Germany, Benelux, Brittain,Austria, France etc.

Southern-Europe:

Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal and you can add countries like Turkey and Israel as well.

Eastern-Europe:

Mosltly former socialist countries. like the former Yugoslavia, Lithuania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Russia etc.

Note:
Some of you are also confused with the terms western culture and western Europe.

countries like Spain, Greece, Australia, New Zealand and Japan are all Western countries, but are not western Europe. Spain is Southern Europe(mediterranian) rather than western Europe.

Turkey is ambiguous. Their western coast resembles other Med countries while further east it becomes more Asiatic. But since we are talking about the world of basketball you can include them in southern Europe.

Israel is a Middle-Eastern country with a Western culture, but likewise in basketballterms it is Southern Europe .

Cheers!

 

[Juan Carlos Nadal2]

I agree with Vic's sugestion. I think we should stick with a North-West/Med/Eastern segregation with regard to Europe.

North-West: British Isles, France, Germany, Austria, Switz, Be-Ne-Lux, Scandinavia
Med: Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Israel
Eastern: All ex-eastern block countries. This is a bit unfair for Slo, Cro, etc, as they are also med countries but at least in my primitive head I classify them as "eastern". Same goes for the Baltic states, even though I know that most people there want to be seen as "North" rather than "Eastern".

 

[stuart2]

I agree with Vic's sugestion. I think we should stick with a North-West/Med/Eastern segregation with regard to Europe.

Aaaarrgh, and I thought I had you Euros all figured out.

I can live with that.

Ok, so we have:

Asia (China, Philippines, Japan, Korea)
Africa (Angola, Nigeria, Sudan, Senegal, Congo, Egypt, etc.)
North America (USA and Canada)
Central America and Caribbean (Mexico*, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.)
South America (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, etc.)
North-Western Europe: (France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Be-Ne-Lux, Scandinavia, British Isles, etc.)
Europe, Mediterranean: (Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, etc.)
Eastern Europe: (Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc.)
Middle East (Lebanon, Syria, Iran, etc)
Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Micronesia)
Other

Yes?

Stuart

 

[stuart2]

Revisted: IBN Demographic Survey

Revisted: IBN Demographic Survey

Asia (China, Philippines, Japan, Korea)
Africa (Angola, Nigeria, Sudan, Senegal, Congo, Egypt, etc.)
North America (USA and Canada)
Central America and Caribbean (Mexico*, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.)
South America (Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, etc.)
North-Western Europe: (France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Be-Ne-Lux, Scandinavia, British Isles, etc.)
Europe, Mediterranean: (Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, etc.)
Eastern Europe: (Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc.)
Middle East (Lebanon, Syria, Iran, etc)
Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Micronesia)
Other

 

[ziv2]

we israelis as always are doing some problems...
but generally i agree with some of the things said here. the way i see it israel (beside being unique in certain ways) should consider itself part of the mideteranian group of states. there are certain things we share with all of turkey, greece, italy, spain (and some of portugal though not on the coast of the mid-sea), partly with the balkan states, partly france (which is difference in a way - having both a shore on the med-sea but strong in-land population and atlantic shore as well) and some of the arab countries of course lebanon, egypt, morroco, tunisia etc.
we share not only food, music and a large part of history but also certains qualities (or not qualities...) of living - being an economy student i find myself espcially interested in checking paramters of economic goruth and process and israel finds it self a lot in the neighbourhood of greece, italy and spain many times (not always in good terms as some of it are corruption statistics...).
there is some large geographical distance between israel and spain for instance but we share many things. btw - i recall the spaniards launching a porject aiming at tying the connection between countries sorrunding the med-sea called "process barcelona". the way i see it this should be one of the goals of israel (and it means among other - good relations and first of all peace with the lebanon and egypt as well as with the magreb country of morroco, tunisia and lybia).

 

[sinobball2]

Isn't Egypt considered in the Middle East?? Not that I think there is any Egyptians here...

 

[Lietuvis2]

Geographical centre of Europe is in Lithuania!!

http://muziejai.mch.mii.lt/Vilnius/europos_geografinis_centras.en.htm

 

[Juan Carlos Nadal2]

Geographical centre of Europe is in Lithuania!!

http://muziejai.mch.mii.lt/Vilnius/europos_geografinis_centras.en.htm

It depends what you take to be the extreme points of Europe. According to another theory (that takes different points of reference) the centre is in the Czech Republic near Brno. I think this is the case if Iceland is left out (geologically not part of Europe) alongside with I think Norway's Svalbad Islands. Not that it makes any difference, just a note.

 

[Arik2]

It's stupid thing to say we're in Europe and not in Western Asia when geographically we're part of Middle East. Nevertheless, everybody who visited Israel will see huge difference between us and Lebanon or Jordan.
Bottom line, today in the era of Globalization it doesn't matter where you from. You can live in one part of the world, to work mostly in other part (it takes not more time to get by plane from Tel Aviv to Paris than with your car to Israeli port of Eilat) and to invest your money in third continent with one click on the keyboard
BTW what about Greenland? Do they play basketball? Anyway, where they from?

 

[Juan Carlos Nadal2]

A pattern already emerges...




WE ARE ALL EX-COMMIES!!!!

j/k

It doesn't really come to me as a big surprise that there are hardly any people from the NW of Europe as basketball is not very popular there. It is beyond me though why there aren't many spanish or Italian forumers around... is it because of the lack of english (harsh but true) or is it for some other reason that i cannot think of? Even during the booming times of IBN there were hardly any...

 

[23_for_life2]

A pattern already emerges...




WE ARE ALL EX-COMMIES!!!!

j/k

It doesn't really come to me as a big surprise that there are hardly any people from the NW of Europe as basketball is not very popular there. It is beyond me though why there aren't many spanish or Italian forumers around... is it because of the lack of english (harsh but true) or is it for some other reason that i cannot think of? Even during the booming times of IBN there were hardly any...

There was a regular from Italy Calanco Pee I think was from Italy and he posted quite a bit. There may have been another one, but I am not sure...

I think we have people now from every region on the poll, they have just not done the poll yet. I saw a guy from Africa as new member and I know there is a guy/girl from Australia.

 

[Digdis2]

Problem with "Where are you from" poll

Problem with "Where are you from" poll

This may sound a bit strange, but I think that the many Israel members here will have a problem with this poll: Although Israel is in the middle east, it never participates in middle east bball (or any other sport) contests, but in European contests. As in the poll, the countries given in the middle east choice are Arab countries (and Israel is not included), an average Israeli member would think twice whether to locate himself there (not due to the relations with these countries, but due to the reason I specified before). I'd suggest to add Israel as an example in the right place.
D.

 

[stuart2]

This may sound a bit strange, but I think that the many Israel members here will have a problem with this poll: Although Israel is in the middle east, it never participates in middle east bball (or any other sport) contests, but in European contests. As in the poll, the countries given in the middle east choice are Arab countries (and Israel is not included), an average Israeli member would think twice whether to locate himself there (not due to the relations with these countries, but due to the reason I specified before). I'd suggest to add Israel as an example in the right place.

I didn't list Israel in either region, so as the Israelis have the option of selecting whereever is the most comfortable choice for them.

Stuart

 

[ziv2]

i'd say we israelis should pick oceania due to micronesia - our dearest friend and sole supporter at u.n. general assembly votes (beside this country - USA).

 

[stuart2]

Could things I have noticed...

Mediterrean Europe is slowly catching up to Eastern Europe (though I believe the regular posters here are mostly E. Europe) which once had 49% of the poll, now down to 28%. All together, Europe makes up 60% of the members on this site.

Oceania has a surprisingly high percentage for being essentially only 2 countries.

Stuart