Free Agents this Summer

[vaslover2]

I also think it is too early for him... He should get more experience in Euroleague and the jump into NBA

Rudy Fernandez has an offer from Portland from the begining of this season but since Joventud Badalona won the ULEB Cup and will play Euroleague next year he is thinking on staying here to grow up as player and then show the wolrd his quality... I think this should be the way of thinking of Gallinari... he could learn a bit more in EL next season... (I´d prefer to enjoy him in Europe

I agree with you.Rudy should stay in EL next season.Perhaps,it would be his year in EL.

 

[KWSN-Men2]

I agree with you.Rudy should stay in EL next season.Perhaps,it would be his year in EL.

And come to Panathinaikos to take the place of Spanoulis.

(Flame bate of the month).

 

[Straight forward2]

I have never saw more boring final as Uleb was this year (though i saw only half of the game) and have to say that players like Gillinari, Rudy are nothing but prospective players yet. Rudy is a superstar of the future- no doubt, but it is a hell of insanity when people ranking him among such players like Navarro, Macijauskas. Wake up! Those kids have to show something in Euroleague first (i mean, in the strong team).

 

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

Rudy already did show a lot in 06/07 with Joventut in euroleague and just as they are this season they were decently strong team back than, nothing special but decently strong. Don't judge everything on a principle of one game.

 

[Sss2]

I have never saw more boring final as Uleb was this year (though i saw only half of the game) and have to say that players like Gillinari, Rudy are nothing but prospective players yet. Rudy is a superstar of the future- no doubt, but it is a hell of insanity when people ranking him among such players like Navarro, Macijauskas. Wake up! Those kids have to show something in Euroleague first (i mean, in the strong team).

are you kidding? The guy wins Spanish Cup, Uleb Cup and there is a probability that he will win ACB and you are calling him just a prospective player yet?
He is the best SG-SF in Europe if you ask me. 21.6 points and 25.3 efficiency in the one of the best clubs in the best European league tells it all.

 

[Straight forward2]

are you kidding? The guy wins Spanish Cup, Uleb Cup and there is a probability that he will win ACB and you are calling him just a prospective player yet?
He is the best SG-SF in Europe if you ask me. 21.6 points and 25.3 efficiency in the one of the best clubs in the best European league tells it all.

Yeah, Uleb Cup is the same as Euroleague? Right... ACB? Tau Ceramica is the only team on final 4 and have to say this a surprise for me (no doubt it's a strong league though). And Rudy is playing in the team among top 5 stars of Europe right?
All i know that i saw him this summer and he wasn't a leader of Spain and no f... way was a best SG- SF... (nothing even close actually ). Specially, he disappeared in cruacial games...
When i will see this guy playing as the best among the best, then i will call him the best.

 

[Sss2]

Yeah, Uleb Cup is the same as Euroleague? Right... ACB? Tau Ceramica is the only team on final 4 and have to say this a surprise for me (no doubt it's a strong league though). And Rudy is playing in the team among top 5 stars of Europe right?
All i know that i saw him this summer and he wasn't a leader of Spain and no f... way was a best SG- SF... (nothing even close actually ). Specially, he disappeared in cruacial games...
When i will see this guy playing as the best among the best, then i will call him the best.

oh yes magical EL, the prove of all manhood . You know, it is nobody fault that you don't show any interest and don't watch other leagues except EL.

 

[Picek2]

Yeah, Uleb Cup is the same as Euroleague? Right... ACB? Tau Ceramica is the only team on final 4 and have to say this a surprise for me (no doubt it's a strong league though).

sure, israeli and italian league are on the same level as ACB because they have one participant on F4..
great math..

 

[vaslover2]

As for Rudy,definitely just one thing.He,s real PRIMA of Joventud. But too complicate to imagine to see him like PRIMA in PAO or CSKA.I mean we can only guess how he could be rule in these teams.

 

[damelo2]

Ok, a point about Spanish teams compared to Greek ones or Russian ones:

Panathinaikos when they have EL, plays one game per week, and one exhibition.
So does CSKA, Vilnius, etc...
On the other hand, the top8-9 teams ine ACB has definitely EL level.
I think teams winning or being close to win ULEB has top 16 level, which was proved by Vilius and Madrid this year.
See, Malaga with nearly the same team that reached Final Four last year is nearly out of Spanish playoffs. They still went to top 16 this year. Girona with super center Marc is 7th in Spain, with guys I saw praised by some guys here as Arriel MacDonald. Definitely, ACB is the best league in Europe, and being on the top of that team mean as much to me as being on top of EL.
See, a guy like Kakiousis, important for Greece, is in Cajasol...
If you take all the best players of ACB in two teams, like it is in Greece or Russia, for sure you get very scary teams. But ACB is better because you have no weak team, no team able to beat everybody everyday. No unlimited team playing against low budget team.
So, for sure, when it comes to the European scene, Spanish team are not as good. they are not number one, but may be number 3 to 9.
Joventud won Uleb this year while Rudy was most of the time on the bench, they won it like a senior team against kids. Rudy has nothin to prove, but Macas still has to prove he has Rudy's level and he is able to bring his team on the top like that.
Like we said, winners show up when the game is on the line, at the best time. Rudy was enormous during Copa del rey, played quite well during Uleb playoffs, with that 20+ performance in 10- minutes, played the final injured, and still managed to make a very decent game.
Well, I hope Rudy won't go to one of those teams with a very restrictive coach, because his creativity is something great for basketball in Europe to show to the fans. Definitely, the worst choice for him would be to play for Panathinaikos.

 

[Metec2]

sure, Israeli and Italian league are on the same level as ACB because they have one participant on F4..
great math..

This year the Israeli league is strong, maybe even stronger than the Italian.

Italian league is overrated , you should have 2 teams at the euroleague, Israel also should have 2 teams. Russia should have 4 teams.

 

[Straight forward2]

So, for sure, when it comes to the European scene, Spanish team are not as good. they are not number one, but may be number 3 to 9.
Joventud won Uleb this year while Rudy was most of the time on the bench, they won it like a senior team against kids. Rudy has nothin to prove, but Macas still has to prove he has Rudy's level and he is able to bring his team on the top like that.

Macijauskas led Tau to Euroleague's final. Rudy never was a key player in the TOP team. Juventud is the competitive team and is Eurolegue's level club, but it's not the top club like CSKA, PAO, Tau. Or- Spain national team. Put Rudy in Euroleague final 4 and i'll see what he can do against CSKA or other super club. He disappeard among such players like Calderon, Navarro in Eurobasket.
Anyway, i'm not blind, the guy has potential to prove that he's the best european SG even next year, but let's just give him a chance first.

 

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

This year the Israeli league is strong, maybe even stronger than the Italian.

Italian league is overrated , you should have 2 teams at the euroleague, Israel also should have 2 teams. Russia should have 4 teams.

c'mmon once in a while it happens that Maccabi isn't dominating and israeli league is suddenly stronger than italian= get real...
when Israeli league will have a team with 5-6 or higher million € budget like Benneton and it won't be anything unussual for them to almost get relegated, that's the time you'll be able to claim that israeli league is maybee on pair with italian, while israeli league being stronger than italian would in that case at least become borderline arguable (as it's not right now)
...but so far, nevermind italian top teams aren't achieving as ussual, not other league not named ACB has the luxury described above, since in any other given league 5-6 million € budget practicaly assures playoff and not 14th place or sth. like that.

Or maybee you honestly believe that this year's Jerusalem, Bnei or Holon would end up any better than Roma, Milano or Virtus in this year's euroleague...

 

[Neozyrus2]

On the other hand, the top8-9 teams ine ACB has definitely EL level.
I think teams winning or being close to win ULEB has top 16 level, which was proved by Vilius and Madrid this year.
See, Malaga with nearly the same team that reached Final Four last year is nearly out of Spanish playoffs. They still went to top 16 this year. Girona with super center Marc is 7th in Spain, with guys I saw praised by some guys here as Arriel MacDonald. Definitely, ACB is the best league in Europe, and being on the top of that team mean as much to me as being on top of EL.
See, a guy like Kakiousis, important for Greece, is in Cajasol...
If you take all the best players of ACB in two teams, like it is in Greece or Russia, for sure you get very scary teams. But ACB is better because you have no weak team, no team able to beat everybody everyday. No unlimited team playing against low budget team.

U just said what i think.

Well, I hope Rudy won't go to one of those teams with a very restrictive coach, because his creativity is something great for basketball in Europe to show to the fans. Definitely, the worst choice for him would be to play for Panathinaikos.

Right now the 2 only choices that he's considering are Spain or USA, and watching his declarations i dont see him playing in any other country in a near future.

Put Rudy in Euroleague final 4 and i'll see what he can do against CSKA or other super club.

Im really "bored" this season of watching Rudy make really awesome performances against weak teams like Khimky, Real, Barcelona, TAU...
And pls im not saying he's better than Macijauskas, not at all, but i do say that right now, in his actual shape (even with his injuries) if he was in the F4, i really would consider him to be one of the highest candidates for the MVP.

(I didnt want to sound arrogant here, so forgive me if it looked like that.)

 

[damelo2]

Macijauskas led Tau to Euroleague's final. Rudy never was a key player in the TOP team. Juventud is the competitive team and is Eurolegue's level club, but it's not the top club like CSKA, PAO, Tau. Or- Spain national team. Put Rudy in Euroleague final 4 and i'll see what he can do against CSKA or other super club. He disappeard among such players like Calderon, Navarro in Eurobasket.
Anyway, i'm not blind, the guy has potential to prove that he's the best european SG even next year, but let's just give him a chance first.

Well, right now he is.Well, he is the top guy in the second best team.
Already, Joventud against CSKA this year is a very interesting match up as Joventud was this year's team. In ACB, most of its losses are when Rudy missed games.
Anyway, in Spanish NT he still is contested by Navarro, and won't be the guy with the last shots in the game.

 

[special-thanks-22]

Some free agents from Italy:

SIENA - Will just lose role players like Drake Diener, Hector Romero and Mike Wilks. All the starters and the main backups will stay.

ROMA - David Hawkins, Rodrigo De La Fuente, Roko Leni Ukic (not a free agent but he's on loan from Barcelona), Ibrahim Jaaber (the team has an option to extend his contract, but it's very hard he's going to stay)

AVELLINO - The green miracle survives. It seems all the rising stars will stay, though the club has already received many offers from big European teams. Colombian SG Stalin Ortiz didn't play well and will leave. Same destiny for Sylvere Bryan and probably for Catalin Burlacu.

MONTEGRANARO - Sharrod Ford played an outstanding season and will certainly leave to sign for a top team. Sharpshooter and defensive weapon Jobey Thomas may finish on a bigger team's list. But there are other free agents (Kiwane Garris, Ricky Minard) whose destiny is uncertain: they played great, but they may get better offers.

MILANO - If they don't clinch a Euroleague berth, Danilo Gallinari will go. Ansu Sesay, Melvin Booker, Casey Shaw, Mindaugas Katelynas and Dusan Vukcevic (but he can be confirmed) will be free agents.

CAPO D'ORLANDO - Gianmarco Pozzecco retires. Sammy Mejia will go. C.J. Wallace will sign for a higher salary, probably here in Italy. Mexican talent Romel Beck is on the list of several teams, also in Spain, but the team may try to convince him to stay. Center Rolando Howell will be a free agent too.

CANTU' - Almost all the players (DaShaun Wood, Gerald Fitch, Torin Francis, Denham Brown, Hervè Toure...) will be free agents. Young rising star DaShaun Wood will play for an important team, I hope here in Italy (I love this player), but there are concrete chances he'll play in Spain or Russia.

FORTITUDO BOLOGNA - Horace Jenkins, Oscar Torres and Dante Calabria are free agents and will leave. Dalibor Bagaric and Spencer Nelson should leave too. The team has an option to extend Joseph Forte's contract. It seems he will stay.


Other teams' free agents (the most interesting in bold):

Keydren Clark (Pesaro would like to confirm him), Rasheed Brokenborough, Ron Slay (very talented but CRAZY), Pervis Pasco, Samuele Podestà (announced his retirement), Mario Austin, Pops Mensah-Bonsu (has British passport, should go to Spain), Marco Mordente, Reece Gaines, Haris Mujezinovic, Hassan Adams, Devin Green, Brandon Brown (very underrated player), Roger Powell, Kevinn Pinkney, Brandon Hunter (has made huge improvements, now has a nice touch too), Keith Langford, B.J. Elder, Morris Finley (league's top scorer and rising star, already has offers from Spain, the "real deal"), LeRoy Hurd, Steven Smith, Filip Videnov, Richard Mason Rocca (Italian NT center, a fighter, huge defender and rebounder), Jumaine Jones (said he would stay in Italy, but I guess wil play elsewhere in the Continent. Offensively he's great, very good rebounder too), Chris Monroe (very good scorer, huge athlete and good defender, can be a deal), Jamel Thomas, Mike Bernard, Travis Best, Donnie McGrath, Jerome Allen (retires), Nate Green, Brooks Sales, Mike Penberthy, Kyle Hill, Sven Schultze (the team has an option to confirm him), Nikos Vetoulas, Marcus Hatten, Marco Killingsworth, Darryl Wilson, Frank Williams, Ruben Wolkowyski, Joel Salvi (not sure if he's free agent, indeed), Steponas Babrauskas (not much playtime, but this young guy is skilled and is a Bosman player), Gregor Hafnar, Jaime Lloreda, Delonte Holland (he showed that when he's hot can score 50 points...but he's crazy...anyway has contract with Virtus Bologna but obviously won't play there again...He said he'll try to make it in the NBA this year), Tierre Brown, Mate Skelin.

 

[woma2]

Special thanks to "Special-Thanks-2", very, very nice post, even if not all informations published here will be correct . Great job.

 

[Vasileios Spanoulis2]

Macijauskas led Tau to Euroleague's final. Rudy never was a key player in the TOP team. Juventud is the competitive team and is Eurolegue's level club, but it's not the top club like CSKA, PAO, Tau. Or- Spain national team. Put Rudy in Euroleague final 4 and i'll see what he can do against CSKA or other super club. He disappeard among such players like Calderon, Navarro in Eurobasket.
Anyway, i'm not blind, the guy has potential to prove that he's the best european SG even next year, but let's just give him a chance first.

Dude everyone knows Rudy is way overrated. deal with it, he's just as overrated as your boy Saras. There is so much hype going on now it's like Europe fans are the new NBA fans. Some of the really great players like your other boy Siska get zero press versus these total hype players. Then again you yourself way overrate Saras and Macas and totally bash Papaloukas who is truly great.

I fail to honestly see but a few members here that actually state any reality on how good the players are. Just a bunch of homerism, fan worship, fanboy nonsense and hype generally speaking.

 

[auris12]

Then again you yourself way overrate Saras and Macas and totally bash Papaloukas who is truly great.

I fail to honestly see but a few members here that actually state any reality on how good the players are. Just a bunch of homerism, fan worship, fanboy nonsense and hype generally speaking.

Gee boy, I guess the irony was lost upon you

 

[rikhardur2]

Dude everyone knows Rudy is way overrated. deal with it, he's just as overrated as your boy Saras.

Rudy and Jasikevičius overrated? Man I'm speechless