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Euroleague/Club Competition Signings & Rumours (vol IV)

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Brad Newley left Besiktas due to not being paid for a long period. He's in talks with an Italian club.
 
Roy M said:
Maccabi want to sigh Jon Scheyer from Duke.
He can play as an Israely player because he is Jewish.
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Jon Scheyer (195, 1987) would be a great addition for Maccabi and who knows maybe for Israeli NT too.

 
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Partizan is targeting bosnian wunderkind Sandro Gacic (196, 1996, OKK Mostar 05).
 
Marcus Haislip is out of PAO's roster for the Greek League and Sermantini is going to take his place. PAO hasn't the right to make any more changes again, so it seems that the season for Haislip and his career at PAO are both ending today...
 
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goga78 said:
You are totally right. I've discussed this matter on another platform. Forgot to do it here. Scheyer could sneak into the pros in the US somehow but would find himself on the rear end of the bench for several years at least. Look at J.J. Redick who was a more accurate shooter and a high volume scorer at Duke. Scheyer can shoot and can score, however he is not a dead-eye shooter for whatever reason. Haven't seen him much at Duke, just following the stats. I have seen him dropping 52 in HS, which might not be a great feat for a truly good player in a lower league (?) but he scored 21 pts. in the last 90 seconds and THAT's a feat. He is probably like Sheffer. A tall PG with good court vision but not too athletic and not too aggressive (unlike Katash - aggressiveness). I hope, Scheyer considers MTA. If he wants to play pro bball, Israel should be his top destination due to several factors. In a couple of years, he could be truly good in/for Maccabi and a crowd favourite. Haven't heard about Landesberg and Glasser but I will hurry up to google for those two :)
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Yes Reddick was a much better overall shooter then Scheyer, but Scheyer is a better all around player then Reddick. He has better handle, better court vision (both leading him being able to play the point, something JJ really couldn't), and he's bigger and strong.

However, I agree if drafted he will be mosly on the bench by a team. Maybe he will be drafted mid to late second round and play in Israel (I would prefer him in Haifa - if they will pay him - over Tel-Aviv - dn't want to see him wasting on the bench under Gershon).

In the end, I believe Landesberg will be the better player. I'm actually surprised he hasn't gotten that much of a look in the NBA. If he does decide to leave Virginia (suspended due to grades or something) and doesn't get looks in the NBA, he to would be a stud in Israel. There were rumors that he was going to sign with Maccabi Tel-Aviv, but he denied them.

Glasser was a starting 1 for a good major Division I school, however he is not in the same league as the top two players listed.

I also think Grunfeld would make a major impact on an Israeli team, but last time I checked he's in Spain.

Aep.MTA said:
Maccabi scouts both Scheyer and Landesberg.
We (Maccabi fans) loved what we've seen from Scheyer at the NCAA Tournament and I'm sure that Shimon and Federman did too.

The rumor says Scheyer has already agreed to sign for Maccabi if he can't find an NBA team this summer.
I'm not sure he can contribute immediately in the EL, but he has nice potential.
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I personally think he can contribute immediately, but not sure under Pini.
 
ip84 said:
Have you fallen from the sky? I don't understand, are you are Italian or Israeli?
Anyway, we don't have an have never had. I think it's is accurate to say that Green is our best center not only now but ever.

You see what Israel have done at Eurobasket 2009 when he was injured... actually we will have a big problem with the NT few years ahead... all the young talents are guard and no centers.
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Well maybe Rothbart can start living up to his potential...:D...ah, nevermind.:(
 
elaj said:
Sick and tired of this Maccabi talk all the time. Go make your own topic and discuss this there.
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Good point, I'm sick and tired of people whining about other people typing about Maccabi.:D
 
Vladimir Dasic, close to be released from Gran Canaria due to disciplinary reasons. He missed one practice, and was sent off from another one by his coach.
 
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sixama23 said:
Marcus Haislip is out of PAO's roster for the Greek League and Sermantini is going to take his place. PAO hasn't the right to make any more changes again, so it seems that the season for Haislip and his career at PAO are both ending today...
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Apparently, his scans have been clean for a long time but he still doesn't want to go back to full training. And he is not looking like he want to put the amount of work that Nicholas put for example.

Too bad, he would fit great. :(
 
goga78 said:
Maccabeo, I'll try make it short.

1. I know more cases about top players that are making their teammates better landing on big teams with lesser roles than on bad teams with bigger roles. They can't play more minutes due to wear and tear in their bodies anyway, so what's the matter of going to a bad team that gives you no perspective of winning, classy teammates, enough money?

2. Saras has the same skills as a year ago. He hasn't been playing this season due to an injury and abundance of Greek PGs, one of them being a project that needs playing time. Two years ago he was the lonely fighter for PAO when it needed him dearly. One year ago, he was their best player in the Final 4. PAO eventually became the EL champion, if you remember well.

3. Yes, there is a valid reason to compare MTA to those teams and see that it has a good team, a good coach and a good result. A lot of points can be criticized and discussed. Player selection, chemistry, coach, management. But there is no reason to drag it all into dirt. While MTA has had a lot of problems in the second round of the regular season, it came up big, when it had to. The right combination of players was found to play successful basketball. The only ego hoopster MTA has is Anderson. Perkins dominates the ball but he makes his teammates better and he is a lock up defender.

4. It doesn't matter, which names you have on paper. There are players with well known names who are overrated, overpaid, past their prime. There are players who are new at this stage but performing very well. On paper, Fischer and especially Perkins are nobodys. However, Fischer is better than any of Efes overpaid centers, while Perkins is better than any of Efes overpaid guards, for example. Sure, Eliyahu is better than any MTA player. That's why MTA decided not to keep him. Good ball handling and driving skills as well as a good half hook and floater. Not existing shot, not existing, physical presence for a big guy, not existing defense. It decided to go with scorers from wing positions and interior defense. It fared better than last year with Eliyahu playing big minutes. Splitter is a great center, one of top 3 in Europe. Huertas, San Emeterio and especially Teletovic? Puhleazze! There is no need in dropping names of other teams' players. It's not about names, it's about actual plays and players and winning, as explained above.

5. MTA needs a revolution? You are the only one to think so. That would mean many new players and rebuilding once again. No need in that.

6. Mekel... I have a somewhat different opinion but I don't care. Mekel can stay away from MTA all of his career. It's just a matter of what other ISraeli players MTA wants to have on its roster.

7. Vujcic is the only center on the continent that is making everybody around him better. He is still a very good player but in order to preserve his body, you shouldn't let him play over 20-25 mpg. Defensively, he has never been great but okay. Offensively, he gives your team a different dimension. He can do everything on offense. Plus, who else would be a better teacher for a young stud than Nikola?!



Not true. MTA has never had a rotation of 5-7 players as depicted.




Two years ago they were projects not worth the money you'd have to pay for them. MTA is doomed to be winning right away and doesn't have time to slowly develop foreign players.



Morris has been playing the same minutes at every stage of the season. Maccabi won't pay him that much money as Morris is a very good role player but not a leader who could take the team on his shoulders and carry it. I liked him a lot at Maccabi but who should he come in for? Lasme, who is earning much less and the problem with the low post center - probably the biggest investment - would still not be solved?

You see, I'm the only one left discussing these matters with you. This is the last post to this topic. Be more realistic to what MTA's goals are, what its abilities are, the depth of its pockets and the free players on the market. You see to be a notorious pessimist who is always abstract but when getting into details, you bring up names of totally washed up players unable to play important roles on big teams, players who are not made for this level or players who would never play for what MTA would offer them financially. I'm not someone who tends to see everything in a positive light but I'd see no reason to cheer for a team, predicting it losing every game before it starts.
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we will be far forever, so we just let see what will happen
 
albiongate said:
Jon Scheyer (195, 1987) would be a great addition for Maccabi and who knows maybe for Israeli NT too.

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would be simply maervellous. i love him and i didn't know he was jewish. hope mizrahi already called him. today there s also skype ...:) (come on goga is just for smiling!
 
So, if some NCAA star it's catholic, can we make him Spanish too? :p

(just kidding) ;)
 
Tomé said:
Vladimir Dasic, close to be released from Gran Canaria due to disciplinary reasons. He missed one practice, and was sent off from another one by his coach.
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I was surprised it took him so long. He was known to be a headcase and a troublemaker through his career with youth national teams and Budućnost - even though his agent and Budućnost was trying to hide this so they could earn from his sale. Unbelieveble talent (skill set wise reminds me a lot of young Milan Gurović), wished him that he would mature in Spain and focus on basketball but I guess he found his old path.
 
elaj said:
I was surprised it took him so long. He was known to be a headcase and a troublemaker through his career with youth national teams and Budućnost - even though his agent and Budućnost was trying to hide this so they could earn from his sale. Unbelieveble talent (skill set wise reminds me a lot of young Milan Gurović), wished him that he would mature in Spain and focus on basketball but I guess he found his old path.
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I can bet that he will sign for Partizan during the summer...
 
At least he made a step forward and signed with powerhouse like Real Madrid. His teammate from Budućnost who also was a promising young player - Nenad Mijatović lost his focus after he broke his leg. I heard also that he didn't like to practice much and would rather focus himself on drinking and partying. That's what I heard - unconfirmed rumors. Both Dašić and Mijatović - I considered as great talents with all the skillset to be very successful basketball players in Europe, I guess both lack of right mindset. I just hate it when this happens with young players.
 
Tomé said:
So, if some NCAA star it's catholic, can we make him Spanish too? :p

(just kidding) ;)
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Well said :)

Although I don't know if many people got that. Jewish denotes some who is a believer of the Jewish religion. Not necessarily Israeli.. although he probably is Israeli.

Yeah I know.. scemantics and all that.

Anyhow the NCAA is a great headstart for players to make the leap over to Europe and more people should be looking there for compatriots who could make the roster.
 
It seems that for Newley and Milano there was a stop in negotiations so far.
Milano is still trying to sign Kaukenas and convince him to return to Italy
 
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