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China 2009 [update]

"China Defeats Lithuania 85-76 - Jul 19, 2009 (by Arthur Volbert)

Using an altered lineup, China defeated Lithuania today 85-76 in the third game of this practice series. Liu Wei and Wang Shipeng, who have not distinguished themselves in the previous two games, were absent today. Hu Xuefeng and Chen Jianghua played point guard. Hu had 8 points, 4 rebounds and 5 steals, but no assists and 6 turnovers. Chen had 8 points, 1 rebound, 1 steal and 1 turnover in 13 minutes.

Wang Zhizhi led the scoring with 21 points in 19 minutes on 8 for 11 shooting. But he only grabbed 2 rebounds. Li Xiaoxu, doing the dirty work at power forward, only had 2 points but had 6 rebounds, 3 steals and a block in 29 minutes.' Sun Yue had 6 points, 7 rebounds, an assist and a steal in 37 minutes. Wang Lei scored 12 points in 21 minutes. Su Wei (212-C-89), who has likely earned a spot on the final 12-man roster, had 11 points, 8 rebounds and 3 steals in 19 minutes. Zhou Peng scored 10 points in 19 minutes and Du Feng had 7 points and 2 rebounds in 13 minutes.

Lithuania led 20-18 after one quarter, but China outscored Lithuania 26-12 in the second quarter. Lithuania had a 25-19 advantage in the third quarter, but China outscored Lithuania 22-19 in the fourth. These are practice games, so looking at quarterly scores shows the flow of the game".

It seems without Liu Wei and Wang Shipeng the Chinese NT played much better against Lithuania B :).
 
BlacKOEIsle said:
You're too pessimistic .Yes,there's still huge gap between China and the first-rate teams.But as for the 2 games against Lituanian B,It's obviously China's goal is not just winning these matches.Bench players got many minutes.
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Definitely I am, only because for so many years the CNT has maintained it stigma of best in Asia, but still get whopped by Non-Asian and African competition. I mean the most recent win against the Lithuanian B team showed that change is necessary, WSP and Liu Wei and Zhu didn't play (right? or was it just some of them), and they ended up winning the thing. having guys as Liu Wei and WSP as role models aren't exactly good. But I understand what you're saying and that this team is still incomplete and these are just exhibition games and China was still trying to get a feel for the players and whatnot.
 
The Chinese national team has 3 types of players.

The Superman mentality type: No skilled, bad fundamentals type who thinks they are Michael Jordan, only reason on the team is experience and being eldersmen. (Liu Wei, Wang Shi Peng, Du Feng)

The Timid mentality type: Natural physical skilled, good or great fundamentals types who gets intimidated too easily. One set back and they get down on themselves. (Sun Yue, Zhu FanYu, Yi Jianlian, Wang ZhiZhi, Chen Jianghua)

The Beast mentality type: Not naturally talented, but great work mentality. Strong head on the shoulder who doesn't get down on themselves. The types who succeeded based on not backing down (Li Xiao Xu, Su Wei, Ding Jinghui, Wang Lei, Zhang Qingpeng)
 
Zhang said:
To get ready for this year's Fiba-asia tournament.Team China anounced that it has arranged several friendly games with five countries for both men and women's basketball team.Those five countris are Lithuania,Australia,Canada,USA and an unkown country.There will be 9 games for Chinese women's basketball team to play and 8 games for men's team
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I admire the Chinese federation for such games .... they are trying to expand the players experience by letting their friendly games be with teams that are better than China, not worse.

If, Iran, Lebanon and Jordan do the same ... this will enhance the competition in Asia ..... we need to expand, not stay as we are.

thumbs up for china
 
BlacKOEIsle said:
No,this Australia all star team only have 2 players from Australia A team.
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Did China play Aussie's A team?
if not .. what are their chances of winning?

I know that Australia has one of the best teams worldwide .... buttt, i haven't been following up with them lately, so maybe they're not as good lately.

any info?
 
Maximus1984 said:
Did China play Aussie's A team?
if not .. what are their chances of winning?

I know that Australia has one of the best teams worldwide .... buttt, i haven't been following up with them lately, so maybe they're not as good lately.

any info?
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No !It's not the Aussie's A team.
It 's just a all start team ,like a Aussie's B team.
This Australia team have very good outside player and good 3pt shoot.
But the inside players is not so good ,but thay have a center 223CM height.
China win the game so easy.
It the 1th game of Yi jianlian play for NT this year .The real purpose of the game is give Yi Jianlian a chance to to warm up .Yi has 30pts 5 block in this game.
Yo can see some what is Yi Jianlian show in the game in this link:
http://bbs.hoopchina.com/775722.html
 
Thx for the info FEIFEI,

but what if China played against Australia A team?
do you think China has a chance to win?
how advanced is australia's A team basketball level?
any ideas?
 
Maximus1984 said:
Thx for the info FEIFEI,

but what if China played against Australia A team?
do you think China has a chance to win?
how advanced is australia's A team basketball level?
any ideas?
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I think it all depends whether Yao Ming is playing with China or not. I don't see China being able to beat the Australian A NT without Yao Ming.
With a healthy Yao Ming, China has a chance.

The Australian A NT has quite a few NBA players on their roster like Andrew Bogut, David Anderson (who ironically was drafted by the Rockets as a replacement for Yao Ming (due to Yao's injury) ), Nathan Jawai (Dallas Mavericks), and there was also Patrick Mills who unfortunately broke his foot while playing in the Portland Trail Blazers summer camp as well as quite a few names in Europe like Aaron Baynes (playing in Lietuvos Rytas in Lithuania) and David Barlow (playing with Zaragoza in Spain)
There's also Luke Neville who played in the NCAA Division 1 with Utah.
That's excluding the good players playing in the NBL Australian league :D

(By the way China is currently ranked in 9th place according to FIBA while Australia is ranked in 10th so they r quite close :D)
 
Maximus1984 said:
Thx for the info FEIFEI,

but what if China played against Australia A team?
do you think China has a chance to win?
how advanced is australia's A team basketball level?
any ideas?
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It's not about the chance.Only weak teams used to say they had a chance to win a better team.Actually in the past decades our NT(when we got Yao inside) was almost at the same level with Australian A team.
For instance, Australia ranked 7 in last year's Olympics while we got 8th place.
In the latest Fiba ranking,our NT ranked 9 which is a little bit higher than Australia's 10.
Definitely Australia is a little better than our NT but we two are not at different level.
 
Maximus1984 said:
Thx for the info FEIFEI,

but what if China played against Australia A team?
do you think China has a chance to win?
how advanced is australia's A team basketball level?
any ideas?
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I think China NT without Yao can not win against Australia A team with full roster.
 
Maximus1984 said:
I don't think Yao's presence or absence will affect China much.

Yi is doing very well already.
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:confused:
Man, Yao Ming is one of the best centers in the world!!!

Of course his presence will affect the Chinese NT. U don't find any player whom is 7'5 and is good like him.

I personally believe there won't be another Yao Ming in the near future for China.
(players like him show up like once every 10-15 years)
 
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