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2011 2nd FIBA Asia U16 Championship [Oct 18-28 Vietnam]

2011 2nd FIBA Asia U16 Championship [Oct 18-28 Vietnam]

  • China

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • South Korea

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Iran

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Philippines

    Votes: 33 44.6%
  • Lebanon

    Votes: 8 10.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    74
I don't think Bobliu know the detail and me too .
I think Bobliu just mean that zhou qi is still looked skinny ,it is hard for a kid like zhou qi to became fat ,but maybe his height has grown.
As the report zhou qi is 172cm on 2005 and 205cm on 2009 , then 215 cm in the early date of this year~
there is not any new report about his height yet,so we all don't know how height he is now:) (he would be around 217cm finally as the result of bone-scanning test)

Xiexie for the info. :)

I really hope that there hasn't been any changes in the dates of birth of any of the players on this Chinese U16 NT.
 
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Xiexie for the info. :)

I really hope that there hasn't been any changes in the dates of birth of any of the players on this Chinese U16 NT.
They have been all passed in the bone-scanning test last year. so their bone age are all under 16 at least :)
the fed of CBA had using bone-scanning test to try to resolve the age problem bcz there would be an age-limited basketball game in the next Chinese National Games , so making a bone-scanning test is fair to all provinces.
 
still least avg height in the group :(

malaysia has 185.33

Having 2 players on your team who are below 170 cm definitely doesn't help:

9 Sanjeev Kumar 14/10/1996 164
10 Narender Satyawan 04/03/1996 167


What amazes me though is why isn't India able to find young tall kids and recruiting them to basketball schools like China cause i'm sure there are much taller young kids there?

If I were to try to answer this question and take an educated guess I would say: India lacks the necessary resources to do so compared to China; basketball in China is much more popular and has better basketball development and training programs than in India; in China they might also have more scouts and it's easier for them to locate and find these tall young kids...

(by the way one of my Indian colleagues here with me at work in the UAE is 193 cm and he's a really good basketball player.. it's just a hobby for him though like it is for me :D)
 
Having 2 players on your team who are below 170 cm definitely doesn't help:

9 Sanjeev Kumar 14/10/1996 164
10 Narender Satyawan 04/03/1996 167


What amazes me though is why isn't India able to find young tall kids and recruiting them to basketball schools like China cause i'm sure there are much taller young kids there?

If I were to try to answer this question and take an educated guess I would say: India lacks the necessary resources to do so compared to China; basketball in China is much more popular and has better basketball development and training programs than in India; in China they might also have more scouts and it's easier for them to locate and find these tall young kids...

(by the way one of my Indian colleagues here with me at work in the UAE is 193 cm and he's a really good basketball player.. it's just a hobby for him though like it is for me :D)

sports in India are in a pathetic state as a whole (barring cricket). Its not that basketball is not popular here. most schools in Urban India have a basketball court (no quality coaches though) and NBA is viewed by a large no. of people. i read somewhere nearly 4 million play basketball in India.

kids dont see a future in basketball as most u can get is a 4th grade job in a government department or railways. most quit basketball after school or college. there needs to be a professional league if BFI wants to attract young players.

lack of infra is another reason. there are very few indoor courts. none in my state (though it has largest population and quite a number have represented India like vishesh bhriguvanshi (C) , trideep rai, singh sisters.)

and top of that bad governing body BFI makes matters worse. no professionalism, favouritism and corruption makes sure Indian basketball remains in a pathetic state that it is :(
 
all of that is true, but one thing i'd add is good Basketball players are very very very few and far between in India.

the same players who complain the loudest about the state of Basketball in India, refuse to find a court and work on their game, like players do in other parts of the world. not every Basketball player in the world started off by playing in a state of the art gym with a great coach by his side.

India sent 4 u16 players total, and 2 players off this u16 national team, Satnam and Sanjeev, to IMG on 4 year scholarships to train exclusively on Basketball. I would say that kind of training and infrastructural program is as high level as it gets.

I played high school and naia basketball in the usa and coached 4 yrs at a usa high school, ive been coaching in india for 3+ yrs, so i can speak from experience, the same players who complain about the courts and coaches etc can barely dribble or shoot and show little motivation to learn on their own.

these days with the internet, every player has access to Basketball coaches and trainers at the highest level,, plus game tapes and everything else a young player needs.
 
Indian team :

Abhishek Rai
Khusmeet Singh Atwal
Karthickeyan Saminathan
Rakesh Singh Sangwan
Loveneet Singh
Sanjeev Kumar
Narender Satyawan
Syed Anam Ali
Akimjeet Singh Sohal
Pankaj Rathee
Ajay Pratap Singh
Satnam Singh
 
Japan U-16 National Team

4 Daiki Kaneko
5 Keita Shinkawa
6 Kishin Kakeuchi
7 Yasunori Aoki
8 Fumiya Morikawa
9 Taisei Shirato
10 Yoshimoto Chikui
11 Koki Miyamoto
12 Yudai Baba
13 Tomoyuki Yanagawa
14 Yusei Sugiura
15 Kenta Yamamoto

Head Coach: Hideki Kogashi
 
Root for the Energen Pilipinas Under 16 National Team!​

What: The FIBA-Asia U16 Championship
Where: Nhatrang, Vietnam
When: Starts next Tuesday, October 18, 2011
Against Who:
West Asia: Iraq, Lebanon, Iran
Gulf: Qatar (replaced Bahrain), Saudi Arabia
Middle Asia: India, Uzbekistan
East Asia: China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan
Southeast Asia: Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam
*A 16th team (from East Asia, probably should've been Hong Kong) was supposed to join, but eventually no team registered for the slot.

Who's on Our Team?
J-Jay Alejandro - Malayan/Mapua
Henry Asilum - Sacred Heart School Cebu
Hubert Cani - La Salle Greenhills
Andrei Caracut - San Beda
Nic Dalafu - Victory Christian International
Rev Diputado - Sacred Heart School Cebu
Isaac Go - Xavier School
Jordan Heading - Morrison HS Taiwan
Jay Javelosa - Reedley International
Kyles Lao - Xavier School
Earl Murphy - Ateneo de Manila
Daryl Pascual - Univ. of Perpetual Help
Tomas Ramos - Ateneo de Manila
Rash Rivero - National Univ.
Head Coach: Olsen Racela

*Several key players who helped the team run away with the 2011 SEABA U16 crown will miss the Nhatrang joust due to commitments with their school teams in the ongoing NCAA wars. These are:
Gelo Vito - La Salle Greenhilss
Ranbill Tongco - San Beda
Gideon Babilonia - San Beda
Arvin Tolentino - San Beda
**Fil-Am Louie Brill (Maryland, USA) will also miss the tournament.


How Do We Stack Up?
Talent Gap: Missing our most consistent big man (Vito), our top scorer (Tolentino), and one of our best playmakers (Tongco). Needless to say, we'll have our work cut out for us. And compared to some of the other Asian players like China's Zhou Qi who have more substantial international experience, we can expect Energen to have a tougher time in Nhatrang than Smart-Gilas did in Wuhan.

Size Disadvantage: Average Height for our boys is 179.79 cm or almost 5'11." With the absence of Vito and Babilonia, our three tallest guys are Isaac Go (6'6"), Jay Javelosa (listed at about 6'3"), and Daryl Pascual (6'4").
By comparison, here are the Average Height figures for the tournament favorites:

China: 197.67 cm or almost 6'6"; Tallest is Zhou Qi at 7'1" (not a typo)
Iraq (WABA U16 champs): 183.17 cm or about 6'0"; Tallest are Ismael Ismael and Ali Abdulhussein, each at 6'5"
South Korea: 187.50 cm or about 6'2"; Tallest is Park In-Tae at 6'8"
Lebanon: 187.50 cm or about 6'2" as well; Tallest is Yaacoub Al-Agha at 6'9"
Japan: 184.33 cm or a little more than 6'0"; Tallest are Sugiura Yusei and Yamamoto Kenta, each at 6'4"

Awful Sniping: To compensate for the aforementioned weakness, we should have at least respectable outside shooting, right? Wrong. In the 2011 SEABA U16 joust, Energen shot just 12/65 from 3-point land or 18.5% for all four of its games. Oops.

Forecast:
Group Play: Despite its missing stars, Energen should still trounce both Indonesia and Vietnam convincingly. I doubt if they'll win by more than 30 in each game, but this early set should give coach Racela an opportunity to test some possible player combinations and spot the chinks in the armor. Because there are just 3 teams in our group, we're sure to advance to Round 2.

Second Round: If everything goes according to form, then we'll face Iran, Japan and the Saudis. We should beat Saudi, but Japan and Iran will both be tough, even if both teams failed to win their respective sub-group tournaments. Still, this group is much lighter than the other one, which has China, WABA Champs Iraq, Lebanon and South Korea. If we had a full roster, we'd have a good shot at top spot in Round 2, but given the absences, we could fall as far down as #3.

Knockout Stages: In all probability, we'll face either Iraq or South Korea in the quarterfinals, and we'll be the underdogs against either squad. That doesn't mean we'll get eliminated easily, but for Energen to break into the Top 4, they'll have to bring their A-game here. All in all, matching the Top 4 finish of the Kiefer Ravena-led edition in 2009 will be a major success already. Breaking into the Championship game and/or actually bagging the Asian crown will be considered miraculous! Go Pilipinas!
 
J-Jay Alejandro - Malayan/Mapua
Henry Asilum - Sacred Heart School Cebu
Hubert Cani - La Salle Greenhills
Andrei Caracut - San Beda
Nic Dalafu - Victory Christian International
Rev Diputado - Sacred Heart School Cebu
Isaac Go - Xavier School
Jordan Heading - Morrison HS Taiwan
Jay Javelosa - Reedley International
Kyles Lao - Xavier School
Earl Murphy - Ateneo de Manila
Daryl Pascual - Univ. of Perpetual Help
Tomas Ramos - Ateneo de Manila
Rash Rivero - National Univ.
Head Coach: Olsen Racela

*Several key players who helped the team run away with the 2011 SEABA U16 crown will miss the Nhatrang joust due to commitments with their school teams in the ongoing NCAA wars. These are:
Gelo Vito - La Salle Greenhilss
Ranbill Tongco - San Beda
Gideon Babilonia - San Beda
Arvin Tolentino - San Beda
**Fil-Am Louie Brill (Maryland, USA) will also miss the tournament.

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Salamat po for the analysis and insightful info.!
Players missing from the lineup due to school commitments and due to their teams playing in the school championships is just absurd!
These kids aren't going on vacation! They're going to represent team Philippines in an official FIBA event!
When it comes to such a situation your country should always come before everything else!

Anyways gud luk sa'yo and hope team Philippines will have good results in this tournament
 
Lebanon will have a 11 players squad, as Bachar Mahmoud got injured 2 days before the trip to Vietnam, and his replacement Samir Khoury wasn't granted a visa due being late.
 
Lebanon will have a 11 players squad, as Bachar Mahmoud got injured 2 days before the trip to Vietnam, and his replacement Samir Khoury wasn't granted a visa due being late.

That's bad news :(... Bachar is the youngest player on the team but i'm sure he would have gained a good international experience from this competition.. His height was also a big plus for our team since he was the 3rd tallest player on the team after Agha and Hadidian.
 
Iran U16 NT won't participate in the Asian Championship due to the Vietnamese decision for not granting visa to our players and staff. The federation is now filing a complaint against Vietnam to FIBA Asia.

The players have gone home,so it's over for us this year.

Pathetic and corrupted continent isn't it?
 
Iran U16 NT won't participate in the Asian Championship due to the Vietnamese decision for not granting visa to our players and staff. The federation is now filing a complaint against Vietnam to FIBA Asia.

The players have gone home,so it's over for us this year.

Pathetic and corrupted continent isn't it?

Unbelievable :eek:!!
What excuse is the Vietnamese federation providing for not being able to grant visas to the Iranian players?
 
Iran U16 NT won't participate in the Asian Championship due to the Vietnamese decision for not granting visa to our players and staff. The federation is now filing a complaint against Vietnam to FIBA Asia.

The players have gone home,so it's over for us this year.

Pathetic and corrupted continent isn't it?

I`m sorry for u. Omg, what a political shit. Idiots in vietnam.

Btw, does anybody have infos about Uzbekistan. Their first participation ever in youth baskteball? Height av of 1,90 and one guy 2,15m!!!!

What about Qatar. Do they have naturalized youth players, like they do in handball:)? What do u think about them - do they really play with an u16 or u20?
 
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I`m sorry for u. Omg, what a political shit. Idiots in vietnam.

Btw, does anybody have infos about Uzbekistan. Their first participation ever in youth baskteball? Height av of 1,90 and one guy 2,15m!!!!

What about Qatar. Do they have naturalized youth players, like they do in handball:)? What do u think about them - do they really play with an u16 or u20?

I just noticed the Uzbekistani roster!! Impressive regarding the average height of their players!! Probably the least scouted and unknown team in this tournament...

As for Qatar well this is their roster (below)... It doesn't look like there are any naturalized players from the name excluding Abdulrahman Saad which happens to be the same name of one their players on the senior NT :D... I'm expecting Qatar to be one of the worst teams in this competition but let's wait and see them in action... Also after the embarassing fiasco in the Asian Championship I don't think Qatar should even think of cheating anymore :D

Head Coach: Miroslav Dobrican

4 Abdulla Al-Ahbabi 23/05/1996 175
5 Abdulrahman Saad 02/07/1996 183
6 Ahmad Mohamed 15/07/1995 178
7 Basheer Alahmad 05/10/1995 176
8 Jaber Al-Abidi 17/01/1996 170
9 Khalifa Al-Marri 04/05/1995 181
10 Mohamed Abdelkawy 23/11/1995 177
11 Mohammad Al-Tamimi 29/01/1996 177
12 Mohammed Al-malki 05/08/1995 178
13 Saeed Al-Sheraim 26/05/1995 177
14 Mohammed Dawoud 17/03/1995 195
15 Abdulrahman Almutawa 14/05/1995 182

Average height: 179.08 cm
 
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