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Originally posted by OffTheWallJamal View PostDragan Bender is a bust. Because of KP, he was picked that high in the draft, you can't teach height, but at least you have to have that spark in the eyes, I see it in KP, I don't see it in Bender.Winner! Euroleague Prediction Game 15/16
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I have to say it was pleasure to watch Russia playing in the second half of the game. Shved played like a real NBA level talent, Fridzon rocked, some bench players rocked, they shared the ball, the ball moved in amazing fashion at some point. Shved is stealing the show in this Eurobasket. If he will come up with such performances in later stages, he's surely one of MVPs contenders.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by ncjazz View PostCalling a guy a bust after one year which he was injured for a lot of it at such a young age is very premature. He is 19 years old.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by archaz View PostNot willing to insult someone, but Croatians are biggest chokers in Eurobasket history, like England in football.
Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostYou can't expect more if Aco is your coach. He hasn't prepared anything. Just put the ball in Bogdanovic's or Saric's hand and pray.
Originally posted by archaz View PostWish them all the best, Bender is No 4. pick like KP, they should do something with their PG position. I hope they will not buy passports like shitfederations are doing - Holden, Randolph, Rice etc.
Originally posted by archaz View PostOn the other side Russia isnt strong as well. They got 1 benchwarmer from NBA, random guy Shved, who can make 10 assists or 10 turnovers and can shoot 5/7 3pts or 0/7 like against Latvia. Other guys are just warming bench in Russian teams as well, because of their silly limit and have 0 motivation to develop as players, cause they know that no one can replace them. Demand > supply.2013/2014 IBN Euroleague Prediction Game Winner
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I've missed the game itself but now I'm planning to watch it in replay. So far one thing which strikes me as a very important one is a moderately low number of turnovers for our team. Even Shved achieved assists to turnover ratio 12 to 1.
Originally posted by miloje View PostCongrats to Russia. we were outclassed. They are just much better team and were dominating since 1. minute. Croatia as usual, no creative guards, played disguistingly selfish 1 on 5 bball, lack of athleticism and brains... same old... Good luck to Russia in game vs. Greece
P.S. But naming Bastardosic as I like it is still my prerogative2013/2014 IBN Euroleague Prediction Game Winner
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Shved and co simply outclassed us.
even Terrorizer can't say anything bad against Shved now.
completely deserved win, if there was any momentum for us in the second quarter it was killed by Mozgov tip in buzzer beater.
can't believe we are so psychologically fucked up that we couldn't recover from that as in the second half we didn't even show up.
russians overrun us in the second.
two eight finals in two years, two different coaches and two 20+ points losses.
that pretty much says everything.
oh well, good thing is EB's are now every 4 years so dissappointments will be every fourth year and not every second.
if we even qualify."Heja, heja Cibosi, hrabri kao vukovi,
heja, heja cibosi, vodite nas k pobjedi. "
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Originally posted by Terrorizer View PostChoking is much more appropriate when you lead against someone and then blow out your lead in an extremely stupid manner. It's a very Russian thing. Even in this tournament it clearly happened in the game with Latvia. But I get it that for you it's extremely important in the case of any Russian success to make yourself believe that it was Russia's opponent who was lousy not that Russia was any good.
I didn't say anything bad about Russia, but Croatians are biggest chokers (IMO) in Europe and that's based not only yesterdays games, but all the time. Good squad > big expectations > bad result. Same strategy.
I like how you are still bringing up Holden alongside very contemprorary examples. But maybe you should also remind yourself that the Croatian "shitfederation" already tried this very path with Draper and Lafayette.
Yeah, stupid Russian benchwarmers, it's just a damn luck and Croatia's own deficiencies, Russia would kill to have someone like Janicenoks, with all his premier international experience, in their roster.
Originally posted by Terrorizer View PostChoking is much more appropriate when you lead against someone and then blow out your lead in an extremely stupid manner. It's a very Russian thing. Even in this tournament it clearly happened in the game with Latvia.Last edited by archaz; 09-11-2017, 07:16 AM.
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Croatia and Slovenia are two best teams play in playoffs from all elite ones.Nobody have lost so many 1/8 and in 1/4 in last 20 years as they did.Is all because of their mentality.I will bet big money on Latvia, Slovenia will choke.They got too easy opponent 1/8 so won easily,but in 1/4 its not the case and they will choke as they chokes always when pressure arises in playoffs.Those country fans can hate me as much as they won, but history results prove that and its repeating all over again even when players changes.Croatia yesterday just quit playing...Bogdanovich said the best after the game.Last edited by Shawshank; 09-11-2017, 12:50 PM.
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Originally posted by Levenspiel View Postthat's all true, but where are their players?? Where is Arapovic, Zizic, Zubac, Tomic, Bilan, Hezonja, Rudez, etc.?? Usual absence story. The team they fielded with Ukic, Tomas, Popovic, Zoric was a flashback from 10 years ago.Jordi Bertomeu sucks!
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostCroatia and Slovenia are two best teams play in playoffs from all elite ones.Nobody have lost so many 1/8 and in 1/4 in last 20 years as they did.Is all because of their mentality.I will bet big money on Latvia, Slovenia will choke.They got too easy opponent 1/8 so won easily,but in 1/4 its not the case and they will choke as they chokes always when pressure arises in playoffs.Those country fans can hate me as much as they won, but history results prove that and its repeating all over again even when players changes.Croatia yesterday just quit playing...Bogdanovich said the best after the game.
Our roster, I'm sure, you never heard half of names. They can't choke, because they should normally never be here.
Matic Rebec (PG, 1.80m, 1995, Krka)
Goran Dragić (PG, 1.91m, 1986, Miami Heat)
Žan Mark Šiško (PG, 1.90m, 1997, Ilirija)
Aleksej Nikolić (PG, 1.91m, 1995, Brose Bamberg)
Jaka Blažič (SG, 1.96m, 1990, Andorra)
Klemen Prepelič (SG, 1.91m, 1992, Paris-Levallois)
Miha Lapornik (SG, 1.94m, 1993, Bilbao)
Luka Dončić (PG/SG/SF, 2.01m, 1999, Real Madrid)
Edo Murić (SF, 2.02m, 1991, Banvit)
Vlatko Čančar (SF, 2.03m, 1997, Mega Leks, Denver Nuggets?)
Jan Kosi (PF, 2.04m, 1996, Primorska)
Saša Zagorac (PF, 2.06m, 1984, Sopron)
Anthony Randolph (PF, 2.11m, 1989, Real Madrid)
Gašper Vidmar (C, 2.11m, 1987, Banvit)
Žiga Dimec (C, 2.11m, 1993, Krka)Last edited by Killer Bob; 09-11-2017, 09:23 PM.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by Picek View PostShved and co simply outclassed us.
even Terrorizer can't say anything bad against Shved now.
Originally posted by Picek View Postcompletely deserved win, if there was any momentum for us in the second quarter it was killed by Mozgov tip in buzzer beater.
Originally posted by archaz View PostStop "being offended" by hateful Latvian, there are no politics, no one needs to offend Russia/Russians here. So ... Dont need to bring that shit in.
Originally posted by archaz View PostAgain, I didn't say anything bad about them, we were comparing squads. I said my opinion that Russia got weak squad as well and yes, 80% of your team are benchwarmers from Russian teams
Originally posted by archaz View Postwho are sitting here whole life and making 400% more money (not bad thing) because of stupid limit rules in your country.
Originally posted by archaz View PostObviously, they don't want to develop/grow and move forward (ACB/Greek teams), they are just sitting in their teams and everything is fine, budgets are good, competition for "Russian slots" are low, ideal format.
Originally posted by archaz View PostSee, your opinion is that you threw game against Latvia away, my opinion is that we were much stronger than you.
Originally posted by archaz View PostWe got 1 center in team,
Originally posted by archaz View PostIt isn't choking, it's called Shved, that guy isn't stable, he can shoot 3pts, make assists but next game he will 10 turnovers. That's why he's playing in Khimki, not CSKA.2013/2014 IBN Euroleague Prediction Game Winner
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