Eurobasket 2013

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

Zagreb and Beograd are never in front of Ljubljana, like it or not, they are even more in debt than Ljubljana city. The city municipality has to pay to Euroleague the sum to host the event, not the country or sponsors (around 1-2M€, its negotiable, Euroleague then organizes together with local organizers, the event itself).

In my opinion Ljubljana is ideal to host EL F4 in the future. It's basically in geocenter of Europe, easy acccesable, great hotels, good standard and if we manage to keep Olimpija Ljubljana in Euroleague and keep it stable and at least top8 contender in the future, I see no problem hosting F4 of EL once in next years.

One of the venues of Eurobasket should be in Kranj. It would be way better to make an arena there than in Ptuj, it's a nice city and lets say a centre of Gorenjska region. They deserve a new arena there much more than they deserve it in shithole like Jesenice/Ptuj. Also lets not forget that a great number of Slovenian top athlets come from Kranj, Jesenice, Bled, Kranjska Gora, etc.

I haven't come across any financial informations regarding Zagreb or Beograd, Ljubljana has some nice debt though. Don't get me wrong, I'd be most glad to see an euroleague F4 here

As far as I am concerned... I'd pick the venues on what do they have to offer to basketball. I don't care about geographical distribution, vicinity of hotel capacity (afterall croats say they're able to spit on Italy over us there are no big distances here, really) or number of population...
Novo Mesto is a must as they're crazy about basketball, Celje area has been a basketball talent hotbed for years (Polzela, Laško, Šentjur) they're also a must imo
...as far as other goes...
I'd give it to two cities that'll offer the best infrastructure. That's mostlikely Maribor + 1 more

Kranj would deserve much more attention all the way from infrastructure to actual sponsors for maintaining any kind of an 1st league club elsewhere than in vaterpolo (and this is Slovenia, not some Russia or Germany we're talking about, where sports actually have some competition in order to climb to 1st league in most sports... we don't), but that is basicaly on them to work through. Ptuj is obviously able to finance a 17 mil € project with or without EC, as for Kranj, a simple covered ice ring was a big issue for whole 90ies and half of 00'ies that's not Ptuj's fault (eventhough I wouldn't prefer them as a venue either)

 

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

The brilliant masterminds from Novo Mesto of course have seen the velodrome in Panevezys and now consider it as one of the viable options for Novo Mesto as they've got one uncovered velodrome rotting for a decade in a vicinity.
The project is a hilarious 3200 capacity (4700 at max.) velodrome, also suitable for athletics... but of course needless to say completely unapropriate for any other serious ball sport, including basketball. While I guess that might not really be that big of an issue for Panevezys, Krka might have ambitions to keep on playing serious basketball in the future.
That said if they go for "velodrome option" I am willing to get over the embarrasment and start to prefer Podmežakla in all of it's socialistic beauty (placing Russia in that same group we can also symbolicaly thank them for 50 years of commy/socialism ), while of course Maribor could cover their football stadium and gor for 20.000 capacity... who cares if it's even remotely not appropriate for basketball, at least they'd save money and show the whole world they are the only ones that know the true meaning of the word: multipurpouse

Am I rightfully sure our bball federation knows better than this?

 

[LjutiKrilo2]

More teams = more games = less NBA players

Silly move. But it was expected since "small" european nations have managed to fire representatives from "strong" basketball countries out of the Board of FIBA Europe.

As you can see on this link, the new president of FIBA Europe, Olafur Rafnsson is from Island, while some members of the Board are coming from from very "small" basketball countries such as Gibraltar, Luxembourg, Malta.

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_INxJNqtbHXUZdWaLaKAQF3.html

It's a shame that countries such as Serbia, Russia, Greece and Turkey are not in the Board.

For instance, serbian candidate Predrag Danilovic (from NBA player) wasn't selected to be in. Curious, isn't it ?

iceland? are you fuckin' kidding me?

what this guy did in european basketball to deserve this position? shooting ball into the vulcanos when he was a little boy?


here we had a simple motto: give a basketball to a basketball players!

albion, where is bogosavljev in this fairy tale? he should be some fiba executive or something... danilović had a chair in fiba board, what happened?
what is radović doing in fiba? some wikings are calling the shots in my favorite sport, i'm must be dreaming


dont get me wrong, i'll be a happiest person if basketball became popular in most of the european countries, but this is NOT the way.
24 teams, gimme a break.

why UEFA didn't implemented this brilliant idea? in late '80 and early '90 there was a rumor that when you want to make some changes in european football, just use basketball for the experiment.
hint: euroleague before champions league...


nothing will change. ex-yugoslavia (all 6 teams) and ex-soviet union (5-6 teams) will play, along with the others who always played EC.


list of teams who didn't played in poland 09, but who will be participate in next 10-15 yrs is:

italy
montenegro
bosnia & her.
estonia
ukraine
belgium
finland
georgia


and maybe: portugal, hungary, czech's



this means no scandinavians, no austria or suisse, no netherland, no slovakia, romania, ireland... ever



this is maybe good for some countries, but is it good for EC?
and this will be a logical step, if the club competitions stayed under fiba.
but we have uleb right now, with his elitism. they simply said fuck off to all ˝small˝ coutries...


for example, portugese team ovarense played once in euroleague, when euroleague was under fiba'a jurisdiction. now there is no condition for them to play EL, not even on play station.

 

[JureEe2]

we got a list of host towns!

first round:
-Novo mesto (new arena, home of KK Krka)

-Ptuj (new arena)

-Jesenice (need repair)

-Koper

second and final round
-Ljubljana (Arena Stožice, Union Olimpija home)

 

[xxax2]

You do know the picture you posted of Koper is actually Piran?

Koper

And Maribor is really pissed off they didn't get it...

 

[Tesla2]

Meh you may as well fit Koper & Piran in the same picture. I think you can see it in the background there.

...No Bled?

 

[ZizzitSlo2]

Most of the accommodations for Jesenice will be around lake Bled, since it is just 15km away.

 

[Luíz for 32]

Do you know how will be the qualifying process for the EuroBasket'13. How many teams will be qualified through EB'11? Will Division A continue to be formed by only 25 nations when 24 participate in the EuroBasket?

 

[thegreekmeister2]

And Maribor is really pissed off they didn't get it...

Why not? Such small towns like Novo mesto, ptuj and jesesnice got it and Maribor did not..

 

[Gonzaka2]

One question.

Usually, teams who play a World Championship or Olympic games are directly qualified to the next Eurobasket. Will work this "rule" at this time? So, Great Britain is qualified for 2013.

 

[Italian Pride2]

Do you know how will be the qualifying process for the EuroBasket'13. How many teams will be qualified through EB'11? Will Division A continue to be formed by only 25 nations when 24 participate in the EuroBasket?

from what I heard Division B will be combined with the Division A,so 13 NT of that division together all team of division A who won't take part to olimpics game or preolimpic game next year ,excluding obvioudly GB and slovenia, will have to play qualifiers,if slovenia don' arrive bteween the firs 6 places, 30 NT will play the qualifiers...

 

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

Why not? Such small towns like Novo mesto, ptuj and jesesnice got it and Maribor did not..

To keep the long story short: basicaly politics
Also they don't have an arena that would match the criteria and eventhough Fiba explicitly denied the option of renovating Tabor, they tried to force that through claiming "we're the 2nd largest town in Slovenia". Didn't suceed and that's it.

Plans for arena in Novo Mesto were selected(link).
Koper will reportedly build a 8000+ arena... that means Italy will have enormous support in 2013 as there is no doubt they'll play in Koper, while aprox. one million Italians is in 30-50 minutes by car range.

 

[dewojos2]

On 18 June 2012, it was announced that the city council of Ptuj has cancelled their bid for the tournament.[9] Novo Mesto has cancelled their bid on 2 July 2012.On 28 August 2012 it was confirmed, that preliminary round will be played in Celje and Ljubljana (Tivoli Hall) instead of Ptuj and Novo Mesto, who has cancelled their bid

 

[Joško Poljak Fan2]

When it comes to infrastructure eurobasket 2013 will sadly be under the level of Lithuania, Spain. Partly to the big budget cuts from the goverment and to a large degree due to incompetent regional authorities.
On the bright side hotel capacities should be way bigger than in most eurobaskets before, even more with the fact it takes sth. like half an hour drive from Trieste, Zagreb or Austrian Karnten to some of the venues. If organisators will be able to deal with Fiba Europe on majority of tickets being individual instead of daily, along with geographical Slovenia's position in Europe, this should be among the most visited championships untill now.

 

[OrgoglioSlavo2]

eurobasket predictions

eurobasket predictions

gold russia
silver france
bronze lithuania
4th spain
5th croatia
6th serbia
7th greece
8th italy

9-12 turkey, montenegro, slovenia, then one from georgia, Bosna or germany

going to world championships.....top 7 (as spain is host)....italy, turkey and slovenia will get 3 wild cards

 

[pohani komarac2]

So 24 teams are

Slovenia
Spain
Macedonia
Russia
Greece
Lithuania
Great Britain
France
Montenegro
Israel
Serbia
Germany
Sweden
Croatia
Ukraine
B&H
Georgia
Latvia
Poland
Finland
Belgium
Italy
Turkey
Czech Republic

 

[dewojos2]

Group draw

Line 1
Spain
France
Russia
Macedonia

Line 2
Lithuania
Greece
Slovenia
GB

Line 3
Germany
Croatia
Italy
Montengro

Line 4
Finland
Poland
BiH
Ukraine

Line 5
Georgia
Belgium
Latvia
Turkey

Line 6
Czech Rep
Izrael
Sweden
Serbia

 

[Efesdxb2]

Depending on previous experiences pots will be as shown above by dewojos.
However that is not fair because GB participated in Olympics because they are hosts and be in 2nd pot or Finland is in Pot 4 after only presence in 1 Eurobasket and finished first in a weak group.
Most weird one is Serbia will be in pot 6. Completely out of Logic!!!
There is a possibility to have two groups like below:

Spain - Lithuania - Montenegro - BiH - Turkey - Serbia
Macedonia - GB - Germany or Italy - Ukraine - Belgium - Sweden

 

[nikkola2]

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[dewojos2]

from FB
EuroBasket 2013 draw (Postojna cave, November 18th) seedings announced:

1 - Spain, France, Russia, FYROM
2 - Lithuania, Greece, Slovenia, Great Britain
3 - Italy, Croatia, Germany, Montenegro
4 - Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Bosnia and Herzegovina
5 - Georgia, Belgium, Latvia, Turkey
6 - Czech Republic, Serbia, Israel, Sweden