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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    We might need the likes of a Robert Bolick, CJ Perez, or even Jayson Castro. Malonzo as well.
    Plleeeeze...no PBA players....they will just make it worse.

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    • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
      But wont the pay be a big downgrade?
      Prolly, but that’s one of the problem that stopping homegrown to play in the better league.
      I can’t blame them if they wouldn’t accept the offer .
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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        Can sir DAdmiral get the NBL NZ to take notice?
        Yeah, he’ll be the key for the young bloods to play for the nbl nz joke hehehe
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        • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
          Plleeeeze...no PBA players....they will just make it worse.
          Or at least players that are used to physicality and keep composed despite that.

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          • And this guy was trolling throughout the game.

            Called Nenad a fraud: https://twitter.com/astrocactusjack/...OrPnrtFm2RINpg

            Called out Gilas fans looking for someone to blame now that Chot's not here: https://twitter.com/astrocactusjack/...OrPnrtFm2RINpg

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            • Originally posted by amabeast View Post
              We need bigger PG and a rim protector to compete vs this Oceania teams.
              Not everything can be excused witz the obvious lack of size. Offensively one can have a bad day od just not enough talent, but for defense, one needs the right attitude and the will to give 100%, even against bigger guys (guarding the 3point line, boxing out). None of that was visible in todays match. New Zealand ate you alive and it looked way too easy very often.

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              • Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
                That is why fiba must change some rules of eligibility and maybe allow two naturalize
                LOL!!! Are you serious? Why not five, six or the whole team? We could also just invite players from all around the world and give the contracts for certain tournaments on temporary citizenships, but what does that have to do with the idea of having different countries play against eachother. Then ist just a bunch of allstarteams facing eachother. Thats nonsense and certainly not the right way to improve basketball in the Philippines or anywhere else.

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                • Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                  LOL!!! Are you serious? Why not five, six or the whole team? We could also just invite players from all around the world and give the contracts for certain tournaments on temporary citizenships, but what does that have to do with the idea of having different countries play against eachother. Then ist just a bunch of allstarteams facing eachother. Thats nonsense and certainly not the right way to improve basketball in the Philippines or anywhere else.
                  Current rules are nonsense anyway. Allowing countries to recruit as many 15 year olds as they want with no regard for connections to the country.

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                  • Originally posted by robert0326
                    Remember we hang on last year vs Serbia... The reason, Kai and Ange's presence... that's how important rim protectors are... Without legit big, we are hopeless...
                    Yes that 76-83 loss was surprisingly close and well deserved, but Serbia had a lot of their best players missing, topped by players like Nikola Jokic, Bogdan Bogdanovic, NikolaJovic, Aleksey Pokusevski, Nemanja Bjelica (all NBA), pkus other injury replacenments, which was one reason why they lost the tournament final against Italy shortly after, while the Philippines got crushed by the Domenican Republic the day after.
                    One good result doesn't tell the whole story.

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                    • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                      Current rules are nonsense anyway. Allowing countries to recruit as many 15 year olds as they want with no regard for connections to the country.
                      I agree, there should be no players with fake citizenships anywhere, only granted for the purpose of strenghtening the national team, and 15 year olds should have proven roots to the countries they play for as well of course.

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                      • Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                        I agree, there should be no players with fake citizenships anywhere, only granted for the purpose of strenghtening the national team, and 15 year olds should have proven roots to the countries they play for as well of course.
                        Yup roots should be prioritized, not pay for play.

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                        • Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                          Not everything can be excused witz the obvious lack of size. Offensively one can have a bad day od just not enough talent, but for defense, one needs the right attitude and the will to give 100%, even against bigger guys (guarding the 3point line, boxing out). None of that was visible in todays match. New Zealand ate you alive and it looked way too easy very often.
                          We got eaten alive on the glass and from beyond the arc (a lot from 2nd chance opportunities). We got beat to 50-50 balls. About the will to give 100%, that was present, but only in flashes, and that was nose for the ball.

                          As for guarding the 3, we can afford not to locally because 3-point shooting is nonexistent here, so we're not used to guarding shooters. Boxing out is also a foreign concept here, which is why PBA teams here give up so many offensive rebounds.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            We got eaten alive on the glass and from beyond the arc (a lot from 2nd chance opportunities). We got beat to 50-50 balls. About the will to give 100%, that was present, but only in flashes, and that was nose for the ball.

                            As for guarding the 3, we can afford not to locally because 3-point shooting is nonexistent here, so we're not used to guarding shooters. Boxing out is also a foreign concept here, which is why PBA teams here give up so many offensive rebounds.
                            Do you have stats on your believe? Can I see them?

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                            • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                              Do you have stats on your believe? Can I see them?
                              For shooting, here are 3PT% above 30% so far:

                              MERALCO: 38.3%
                              Phoenix: 35.6%
                              Converge: 31.7%
                              Blackwater: 30.3%

                              So far, only 4 PBA teams shoot above 30 (Converge and Blackwater), and only 2 shoot above 35% (MERALCO and Phoenix) In the UAAP, only two teams shot above 30% from 3. That's not exactly top-tier shooting. As for PBA, I looked up RealGM. Numbers pa lang 'yan. As for the closeouts, most teams half-ass it because it's either a brick or the shooter hesitates.

                              As for rebounding, best defensive rebounding team grabs only 68% of all defensive rebounds. Last tournament, it was 69%. That's low, no matter where you are. For this one, I don't use a ranking as my basis. I use a baseline number, which in this case is 72-75% for DRB%.

                              And the eye test is as useful as numbers.

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                              • There's a difference between Qatar hiring foreign nationals for their team and the Philippines getting pouring resources with finding the mythical "Filipino blood" among those outside the Philippines.

                                Qatar has a shortage of citizens interested in sports, let along basketball. They hire foreign nationals, but they also spens money to develop them

                                While the Philippines has a lot of manpower for that, be we are lazy to develop talent and just spend the money on heckling the parents/grandparents to get passport of anyone who has "Filipino blood" who were trained abroad instead of creating a solid grassroots program. Then we resent people who are not interested in joining the national team.

                                We are so obsessed with bloodlines, but many us do not entertain a form of jus soli citizenship and easier naturalization (non-congress) of people who have lived in the Philippines for a very long time and localized, but we obsess about people abroad, many of whom, have lost touch with the culture

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