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Jay P. Mercado2
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My bad...thanks CT for the correction. I was vacillating what school Derrick came from - whether it was from DLSU, UE or SBC. Ultimately, it was Franz and Dindo Pumaren who suited up for DLSU.
My bad...thanks CT for the correction. I was vacillating what school Derrick came from - whether it was from DLSU, UE or SBC. Ultimately, it was Franz and Dindo Pumaren who suited up for DLSU.
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nardy2
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San Beda's John Copada was supposed to be the starting Center of that team but he got sick. After that he disapeared.
But I still consider the 1978 Youth Team the Strongest ever formed. What's funny Hector Calma was an alternate in that team. This reminds me on how can Hector be 13 or 14 years old when he led the Adamson Falcons to the 1977 UAAP Seniors Championship
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capitantiago2
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Franz however played for the Pages, now the Junior Warriors. Dindo did not.
Derrick helped his dad Mang Pilo in 1978 in his last UAAP championship as the Warriors head coach. The Destroyer was one of his teammates. Another was Constancio Ortiz III, a son of a former Olympian (1960).
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nardy2
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Yes Derrick played for UE Pages in Juniors together with Franz, then played for the Warriors but he transferred to La Salle when Boss Danding tapped former UE Coach Pilo Pumaren as Head Coach of the Green Archers. But Derrick only played one year in the NCAA (1980) unlike Franz who had the distinction of playing for La Salle both in the NCAA and the UAAP.
To remind you, in that fateful August 16, 1980 La Salle-Letran play-off game, It was the incident between Itoy Esguerra and Derrick Pumaren during a scramble sparked by jeerings between the LaSalle and Letran camps which resulted in a full-blown riot. Letran was then leading 22-18 lead and a time-out was called halfway through the first half. The presence of goon-looking persons who are said to be guests of Ambassador Danding Cojuangco made the atmosphere more heated. The south end reserve section (Letran side) erupted with at least five burly men (the said guests) ganging up on a hapless Letran high school sophomore student for a full minute before police could intervene. But for the mauled student, none was picked up. Almost simultaneously, the La Salle bench suddenly stood up, the players hunched and protecting their heads with towels and jackets against various missiles pelted on them. Both teams went immediately to their respective dugouts. A large number of spectators were hurt, and a great portion of the coliseum was damaged. The game was called off by the NCAA and ordered a replay behind closed doors, but the Basketball Association of the Philippines ordered the remainder of the season to be canceled.
Also involved in the play-offs that time was San Beda which lost to Letran earlier. A victory by Letran over La Salle gives it the first round flag. Should La Salle win, it still has to face San Beda and win to clinch the round championship.
Dindo who was a Grade School batchmate of mine at San Beda played for the Red Cubs in High School before transferring to La Salle and play for the Green Archers in the UAAP. Do note when Dindo was in 4th year High School, San Beda withdrew from the NCAA but in the Inter-collegiate, Dindo played for the Red Lions.
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Jay P. Mercado2
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So that explains my confusion earlier. Derrick did play for both UE and DLSU (when the residency rule was not yet enforced). However, I don't know if Franz did get to play in the UAAP. DLSU only joined the UAAP in 1986, and by that time, he just came from their conquest of the ABC title. I'm not sure if Franz did get to play for DLSU in their UAAP maiden season since he was still an amateur back then, only to turn pro by October when San Miguel returned to the PBA under Magnolia Ice Cream and got the PBA nod to bring in the nucleus of the NCC team - Franz included.
Regarding Dindo, that one I was quite sure. He suited up for the San Beda Red Cubs before moving to DLSU.
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nardy2
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Franz had 1 eligibility year left and was allowed to play in La Salle's maiden year in the UAAP. But there were so many conditions against La Salle that time by the UAAP. Yves Dignadice, Naning Valenciano, and transferees from Arellano (Alvin Teng and Jeffrey Graves) were not allowed to suit-up for DLSU in the UAAP. They also said they cannot allow the two Pumarens (Franz and Dindo) to suit-up together and Dindo was only allowed to play one year later in 1987 with Franz gone. With a dicimated line-up, Franz was the focal point of La Salle's offense and he would score 30-40 points in several games in 1986.
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ejbl2
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what about barako coach junel baculi.. wasnt he a superstar in mapua back then with leo isaac and bong ramos?? Why didnt he enter the pba??
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duanne142
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Idol tlaga mga pumarens!
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shootingbwakaw2
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Marlou Aquino
Norman Gonzales
Will Antonio
R. Calimag ...
PBA rehashed. bottom of the barrel.
everyone free to add to the list
I was thinking of another "you think they should be gone by now" list of active players but that would be too long.
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capitantiago2
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like Gilbert Lao and Jason Misolas? lol
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FBNYC2
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(I don't know where to post this question so I created a new thread)
As far as the UAAP vs NCAA Bantay Bata games, it has/always been the NCAA teams lording over, but when it comes to turning pro(PBA), I haven't seen any NCAA Star Player became a star in the PBA. So my question is, why?
It's probably because for most the UAAP is more appealing. Could be due to having more students at each school, more alumni, then support etc. This tends to entice more of the higher recruits that have a better chance to making it in the PBA.
But every now and then there are exceptions to the rule where the NCAA produces some quality PBA talent.
Ask yourself if you were a recruit out of high school what teams would you choose to have a good chance for exposure to the PBA?
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halakanrana2
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(I don't know where to post this question so I created a new thread)
As far as the UAAP vs NCAA Bantay Bata games, it has/always been the NCAA teams lording over, but when it comes to turning pro(PBA), I haven't seen any NCAA Star Player became a star in the PBA. So my question is, why?
Well, here's my unbiased view about this.
Let's start with the question from the previous post: If you are a blue chip hs player and you are being recruited by schools from both leagues, which school would you choose? More likely than not, you will choose a UAAP school.
Why? Well it is undeniable that the UAAP has the bigger and more popular schools. It has the top three schools in the country. It is a common notion that parents dream of sending their children to either Ateneo, La Salle, and UP (in alphabetical order). Even the other schools can be considered to be a notch above their NCAA counterparts in terms of student population, general popularity, and MAYBE even academic excellence.
Hence, the UAAP commands more media coverage. I know the UAAP was being shown on channel 4 years before the NCAA was televised. Also, if you look at the time slots alloted for the games of both leagues you can see that the UAAP games are shown during weekends and the NCAA games during weekdays. Even on print media (even female mags like candy), one can see that the UAAP is indeed more popular.
We can blame it on the presence of "glamor schools" or just the sheer number of students enrolled in big schools (like FEU, UE), but we cannot deny the popularity of the UAAP.
A kid coming out of HS will be naturally more inclined to join the more popular league. As such, with a few exceptions, the better players have enrolled in UAAP schools (eg: exodus of NCAA HS players to UAAP schools).
But not all HS players will be invited to join the UAAP. Some will have to continue their basketball careers in other leagues such as the NCAA. These players of course will have a little chip on their shoulders, thinking that they were snubbed by the more popular schools. So whenever they have a chance to play against players from the UAAP (like the bantay bata all star games) parang may dapat silang patunayan.
Unlike the UAAP players who treat these games as mere exhibition games. In 2006, Ken Bono was quoted to say "seryosohin kaya natin itong larong ito, kasi tinalo tayo ng NCAA last year"
So that explains why the UAAP players always loose in these all-star games. WHen it comes to the PBA, the talent of these blue chippers become apparent and, hence, they perform better than their NCAA counterparts.
I do not mean to bash any school or league. Just my two cents. Peace.