I wonder what was Danding's recruitment pitch here.
ECJ: Mike, I'm building the strongest team in UAAP history. I need your son to play point for DLSU.
Mike: Yes boss. He's on his way.
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I wonder what was Danding's recruitment pitch here.
ECJ: Mike, I'm building the strongest team in UAAP history. I need your son to play point for DLSU.
Mike: Yes boss. He's on his way.
From the England Under-18 coach: "As the England Under-18 coach I get to see all the young players in the country. I rate Terence as one of these players that are up there, especially in his position, the point guard. He's one of the best ball-handlers in the country so I can see him going quite far.”
He was 18 years old last year (2012) so that just puts him at 19 this year? Seems like the kid has a definite future in the PBA. Could be Helterbrand's successor in Ginebra.
He was 18 years old last year (2012) so that just puts him at 19 this year? Seems like the kid has a definite future in the PBA. Could be Helterbrand's successor in Ginebra.
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eindhow
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All the hoarding and still Ateneo got the 5peat ;p though things might be different this year for DLSU. ADMU is not that of an intimidating force anymore. But NU is now a veteran team. DLSU might have the same problem of difficulty of finishing games. UST is not the same without Fortuna. FEU will still be a guard oriented team.
What do they tell these kids? Play for L Salle. Be patient. Your time will come. They tell this to ALL their recruits? Nakakaawa ang mga bata. Then they transfer. 'Quality Education' maybe in the mix? Nah. That's why only a few guys become veterans for La Salle.
What do they tell these kids? Play for L Salle. Be patient. Your time will come. They tell this to ALL their recruits? Nakakaawa ang mga bata. Then they transfer. 'Quality Education' maybe in the mix? Nah. That's why only a few guys become veterans for La Salle.
greenarcher
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The hoarding will only come into fruition this coming season. Last year it was still sorta half-baked but they could have accomplished more than they did.
NU may be a veteran team but looking at the pre-season statistics, the team is still dominated by 2 guys. There's more support now but the question is how much more support and will it be enough. UST's veterans are ripped for the pros but their PG spot and bench are weak. FEU will miss the final 4 and will probably live and die with Terrence Romeo. UE can be a darkhorse if they play well and play with consistency. UP will have a winless season.
Now it's not simply about hoarding but hoarding the right pieces like Jason Perkins which will definitely be a big boost for the Archers.
Given the right coaching staff (and patience on the side of the players), DLSU can gun for its own 5-peat... or better.
NU may be a veteran team but looking at the pre-season statistics, the team is still dominated by 2 guys. There's more support now but the question is how much more support and will it be enough. UST's veterans are ripped for the pros but their PG spot and bench are weak. FEU will miss the final 4 and will probably live and die with Terrence Romeo. UE can be a darkhorse if they play well and play with consistency. UP will have a winless season.
Now it's not simply about hoarding but hoarding the right pieces like Jason Perkins which will definitely be a big boost for the Archers.
Given the right coaching staff (and patience on the side of the players), DLSU can gun for its own 5-peat... or better.
ECJ wasn't running things the past 5 years. To be honest, i wouldn't give a rat's a$$ on what they tell them during recruitment. You're guess would be as good as mine. But at this rate, it seems like DLSU will be building a loaded cast that would require the cream of the crop. The talent available (specially the red shirts now) are just too good. Every position on that 2014 team will be loaded.
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volvooceanracing
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dlsu didn't hoard during the 5-peat era of admu....they had long, ravena, salva, buenafe and the almighty slaughter was uncontested.
anyway enough about this. let's just talk about the future players especially the recruits of the other teams. Does anyone have videos of sargent? Who's the import of ateneo?
killmebusy
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actually it's the opposite..college basketball relies heavily on coaching and training rather than individual talent alone. Look at NU...they hoarded a couple years ago too (the youth teams mostly) but still they haven't even entered the UAAP finals. They tried to tailor the system to the talent but as the succesful ones have done before - pumaren, frankie, aric, black to name a few - they get players who fit their scheme not the other way around.
Will DLSU be able to pull it off? We'll see but they're threading deep water with what they are doing since a lot of former top recruits have already left them while guys like papot and dela paz who had so much promise coming from HS are now long forgotten roster fodder since the staff now focus on the new guys.
I still believe that in order for a school to be succesful in college, a great system should be in place and the coaches need to know how to train the players effectively or else all the talent would go to waste.
Will DLSU be able to pull it off? We'll see but they're threading deep water with what they are doing since a lot of former top recruits have already left them while guys like papot and dela paz who had so much promise coming from HS are now long forgotten roster fodder since the staff now focus on the new guys.
I still believe that in order for a school to be succesful in college, a great system should be in place and the coaches need to know how to train the players effectively or else all the talent would go to waste.
volvooceanracing
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the only players who left dlsu were tallo, gotladera and ricafort. i dont think these players can be considered as top recruits. even ateneans are skeptical with gotladera.
im not surprised if the new guys are getting more attention than the old guys. pumaren era recruitment wasn't that good talaga. if papot, luigi and gotladera were high school graduates this year they probably wouldnt have been admitted to the team, even the highly touted coach norman black said that the uaap is all about recruitment. training and conditioning can only do so much.
im not surprised if the new guys are getting more attention than the old guys. pumaren era recruitment wasn't that good talaga. if papot, luigi and gotladera were high school graduates this year they probably wouldnt have been admitted to the team, even the highly touted coach norman black said that the uaap is all about recruitment. training and conditioning can only do so much.
greenarcher
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Well hopefully Noli Eala and the people behind DLSU's recruitment learned a thing or two from Alaska's victory (and PBB/GSM/SMC's demise).
If there's an SMC team that uses a system rather than a bunch of star players forced to play cohesively, it's the San Miguel Beermen.
Dan Sara left too right?
If there's an SMC team that uses a system rather than a bunch of star players forced to play cohesively, it's the San Miguel Beermen.
Dan Sara left too right?
volvooceanracing
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oh right i forgot about dan sara. well it doesnt seem like he's performing extremely well in san beda either so its not a loss.
im guessing dlsu wont end up like petron naman. I have never been a fan of racela and alfrancis. if there's any consolation, dlsu actually has more system than any other team in the league right now. UST and FEu has always been freewheeling, while ateneo is implementing a run and gun which isn't an intricate system like that of Black.
im guessing dlsu wont end up like petron naman. I have never been a fan of racela and alfrancis. if there's any consolation, dlsu actually has more system than any other team in the league right now. UST and FEu has always been freewheeling, while ateneo is implementing a run and gun which isn't an intricate system like that of Black.
eindhow
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The hoarding started after the 2008 FIBA Asia U18 that Franz Pumaren hnadled They got the likes of Norbert Torres, Papot Paredes, Sam Marata,
Joel Tolentino, Jed Manguera, etc.
volvooceanracing
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i wasn't quite impressed with the late pumaren era recruits back then. They hoarded, but they didn't hoard the best players. Norbs had really poor shooting and the others were just average players.
I agree with you that the dlsu coaches didn't perform up to expectations though....no excuses. even the most diehard lasallians criticized dindo and the outdated pumaren style coaches. simon atkins could have been a lot better. he didn't improve that much during his stay in la salle. whatever skills he had back in dlsz, it was pretty much the same during his stay. as for joshua, well he's like tallo. high school wonder but can't keep up with the uaap.
I agree with you that the dlsu coaches didn't perform up to expectations though....no excuses. even the most diehard lasallians criticized dindo and the outdated pumaren style coaches. simon atkins could have been a lot better. he didn't improve that much during his stay in la salle. whatever skills he had back in dlsz, it was pretty much the same during his stay. as for joshua, well he's like tallo. high school wonder but can't keep up with the uaap.
volvooceanracing
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...never seen him play ever.
With the way Danding is buying Fil-fors left and right and assuming it results in a few championships, I wouldn't be surprised if a board member *cough* Montinola *cough* comes up with another headscratching rule to limit the number of Fil-fors allowed a.) on the floor at the same time similar to the rule on foreigners now, and/or b.) in the team similar to the PBA.
But in all likelihood, this hoarding will eventually plateau, meaning recruits will eventually shy away from DLSU because for some, the bottom line really is playing time. Might start next year, as I don't think DLSZ's own bluechipper Subido will choose DLSU.
@Bhinov, maybe you can give a report on how Sargent did while he was still with Mapua.
But in all likelihood, this hoarding will eventually plateau, meaning recruits will eventually shy away from DLSU because for some, the bottom line really is playing time. Might start next year, as I don't think DLSZ's own bluechipper Subido will choose DLSU.
@Bhinov, maybe you can give a report on how Sargent did while he was still with Mapua.
volvooceanracing
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dlsu did montinola a favor by voting for the pingoy rule. he might not do anything to dlsu's demise anytime soon. then again, it's montinola so anything is possible.
im not expecting anyone from lsgh or dlsz to go to dlsu next year. im betting that arvie will be their only local recruit next season. who's graduating after this season anyway?
im not expecting anyone from lsgh or dlsz to go to dlsu next year. im betting that arvie will be their only local recruit next season. who's graduating after this season anyway?
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Ever wondered why this guy (wearing the DLSU centennial shirt) is still busy despite the offseason in the PBA?
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Actually, DLSU is closer to what Alaska is. If you've watched the preseason games, you can see more fluid executions and almost equal point productions from Gabby Reyes to Norbert Torres. It's ADMU who has more resemblance to a Ginebra team with Ravena playing God and carrying the whole team ala-Caguioa. That and they run more now on offense. DLSU with Abanilla and Cone will have more half court sets. The good thing with having Cone's system is that you can replace players from Tony Dela Cruz to Calvin Abueva to DonDon Hontiveros and still have a system in place. You just sub players in and out. For me, that's the best solution to having all these fil-ams on board. There will be playing time for them. It also helps that the current team manager owns 3 teams in the PBA.
volvooceanracing
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is cone working with la salle? i never recalled seeing him in practice with the archers.
on another note, im wondering if they can use the full court press next season since they'll be featuring a really tall lineup. the full court press became obsolete because of the lack of tall defensive players back then.
on another note, im wondering if they can use the full court press next season since they'll be featuring a really tall lineup. the full court press became obsolete because of the lack of tall defensive players back then.
College basketball in the states, you mean. College basketball in the Philippines would survive on with less coaching and more individual talent in my opinion. the UAAP is limited by the small number of member schools, College basketball is limited by the talent pool they have is dependent on the available talent in that age group. And teams are handicapped by the depth of the pockets of their respective benefactors. Therefore, players like Ray Parks Jr., and even Cardona and Yeo would survive on mediocre coaching and rely on their respective skillset. You have to realize that these are teenagers. And not a lot of teenagers at that age, in that team, on that league have the talent/skill and capacity to be on that level. Hence, you're essentially on a different level of play compared to your opponents who have inferior talent to go around with. So in essence, chances of success go all the way up. Speaking for the UAAP alone.
^IMO, DLSU did not do Montinola a favor, rather, they did themselves a favor. DLSU is one of the better equipped schools to handle the Pingoy rule because it has LSGH which is not affected by the rule. But that's all in the past as the rule put in a release clause anyway, which historically, was always given by DLSU to its outgoing players.
For next year, Tolentino is definitely the big catch but Mocon is not bad as well, and both are said to be targeted by DLSU. Both aren't locked in yet and a year is a long time.
To get back on topic, whatever happened to Clint Doliguez? Where did he finally end up? I don't think he's a gamechanging recruit but I thought he would at least crack team A of some UAAP teams.
For next year, Tolentino is definitely the big catch but Mocon is not bad as well, and both are said to be targeted by DLSU. Both aren't locked in yet and a year is a long time.
To get back on topic, whatever happened to Clint Doliguez? Where did he finally end up? I don't think he's a gamechanging recruit but I thought he would at least crack team A of some UAAP teams.