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nardy
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sir nardy are there no plans to back up douthit with another naturalized player? what if he gets injured before the qualifiers ...
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i saw taulava being interviewed in PBA.
he said that he knows all/a lot of people got disappointed at them..
hey gilas guys,if you happen to read this, we got disappointed yeah, but dont feel bad about it. we will never turn our backs on you guys!
stand up again and play like nothing happened.
there are no plans with regards to that from I know. The SBP and Gilas Management is more busy in other things in order to improve our chances at the Olympic Qualifyer.
Getting one Naturalized Player was already a difficult process for the SBP, it would be doubly difficult I think for them to get another.
To get one foreigner to become a naturalized filipino took as such a long time, then the legal process required also takes an additional more long time .... take note as of this time Marcus is still not a Filipino as up to this time PNoy has not signed the approved bill by the Senate and by the House into law.
Its just unfortunate that there not as many Foreigners would like to be Filipinos as to the number of Filipinos wanting to become Americans or another Nationality.
Whatever we can offer is just peanuts compared what the other countries can give. And its a fact that a big number of Filipinos would rather work or migrate abroad than stay in the Philippines if given a chance. And as I noted before an American giving-up his US Citizenship and all the benefits attach to it is just to much. That's why I really take my hat off to Douthit as he is really making a very big sacrifice.
friedbrains
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are you sure abt this? i didn't see still, moore, engelland, et. al. lose their U.S. citizenships when they played as naturalized filipinos before. unless philippine laws have changed. any lawyers in the house?
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are you sure abt this? i didn't see still, moore, engelland, et. al. lose their U.S. citizenships when they played as naturalized filipinos before. unless philippine laws have changed. any lawyers in the house?
i am sure that he is sure about it
just google what u want to know
im sorry dude.i just cant accept the word minimal
he improved a lot in smart gilas.
but he is still a little slow.
yeah you are right with the cesafi stats.
but i dont just look at their stats.i try to see their game.but im not a genius to be right at all times.
but lets compare rabeh's stats with jerby's stats..even rabeh's mvp season is way below jerby cruz's statistical points..and we know who got potential and what's happening to them now.
ok that's your opinion.
i have mine.
lets just leave it like that.
I don't think slaughter is slow.
but I doubt that he improves a lot, we can't really argue about this since slaughter is always guarding the bench so no one knows if he really improves or not, with the way toroman is using him hes more like the energy/impact player, hes very effective if hes playing but he always got limited minutes, I don't know any team in the world right now that has a 7 footer as an energy guy and its laughable that a giant from the land of the midget use its tallest player as an energy guy/mr. quality minutes.
ohh well as you said you have your opinion and i have mine, so we leave it like that......for the moment , I hope we can resume our debate/argument when finally junmar will join gilas under toroman, during that time we can compare notes who is better in cheering their midget teammates that toro loves and who is better in guarding the bench.
weward
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I don't think slaughter is slow.
but I doubt that he improves a lot, we can't really argue about this since slaughter is always guarding the bench so no one knows if he really improves or not, with the way toroman is using him hes more like the energy/impact player, hes very effective if hes playing but he always got limited minutes, I don't know any team in the world right now that has a 7 footer as an energy guy and its laughable that a giant from the land of the midget use its tallest player as an energy guy/mr. quality minutes.
ohh well as you said you have your opinion and i have mine, so we leave it like that......for the moment , I hope we can resume our debate/argument when finally junmar will join gilas under toroman, during that time we can compare notes who is better in cheering their midget teammates that toro loves and who is better in guarding the bench.
1)forgot to mention when i said that slaughter is a little bit slow because i compared him to the big guys in the fiba world championship.hehe
2)yep hope this happen..
3)hehe what i'm sure is that coach toro would pwn them both..
nardy
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are you sure abt this? i didn't see still, moore, engelland, et. al. lose their U.S. citizenships when they played as naturalized filipinos before. unless philippine laws have changed. any lawyers in the house?
There is no change of the law from what I know.
I am not sure about those 3 players but I have personal knowledge of Chinese and Indian Nationals who became Naturalized Filipinos and they were required to denounce their original citizenships before they pledge allegiance to the flag of the Philippines. I have talked to staff of the Senate and they confirmed Douthit is required to denounce his US Citizenship. We cannot have a different application of our citizenship law to Douthit just because he is a basketball player.
From what I heard Still, Moore and Engelland re-acquired their US Citizenship as they were not issued new Philippine Passports when theirs expired and please remember they got their citizenship thru President Marcos via their benefactor Danding Cojuangco. Like their sponsors, they could have asked for Right of Asylum due to political prosecution as at those time they were denied employment at the Philippines when the BAP did not get them again despite the three giving feelers. The only one who came close in playing again in Manila was Jeff Moore who had negotiations with the PBA's Yco-Tanduay team in the late 1980s but Lito Puyat seems to have discouraged the Elizalde Management of doing so due to Moore's connection with Danding Cojuangco.
If you read the Panatang Makabayan (Oath of Allegiance) it demands nothing but total allegiance to the Philippines.
"Iniibig ko ang Pilipinas.
Ito ang aking lupang sinilangan.
Ito ang tahanan ng aking lahi.
Ako’y kanyang kinukupkop at tinutulungan,
Upang maging malakas, maligaya at kapakipakinabang.
Bilang ganti ay diringgin ko ang payo ng aking mga magulang.
Susundin ko ang mga tuntunin ng aking paaralan.
Tutuparin ko ang tungkulin ng isang mamamayang makabayan at masunurin sa batas.
Paglilingkuran ko ang aking bayan nang walang pag-iimbot at nang buong katapatan.
Sisikapin kong maging isang tunay na Pilipino,
sa isip, sa salita at sa gawa."
English translation:Ito ang aking lupang sinilangan.
Ito ang tahanan ng aking lahi.
Ako’y kanyang kinukupkop at tinutulungan,
Upang maging malakas, maligaya at kapakipakinabang.
Bilang ganti ay diringgin ko ang payo ng aking mga magulang.
Susundin ko ang mga tuntunin ng aking paaralan.
Tutuparin ko ang tungkulin ng isang mamamayang makabayan at masunurin sa batas.
Paglilingkuran ko ang aking bayan nang walang pag-iimbot at nang buong katapatan.
Sisikapin kong maging isang tunay na Pilipino,
sa isip, sa salita at sa gawa."
"I love the Philippines.
It is the land of my birth;
It is the home of my people.
It protects me and helps me to be strong, happy and useful.
In return, I will heed the counsel of my parents;
I will obey the rules of my school;
I will perform the duties of a patriotic, law-abiding citizen;
I will serve my country unselfishly and faithfully
I will be a true Filipino in thought, in word, in deed"
I would like to add Moore became a superstar import at the Mexican Premier League and was considered as their Michael Jordan and he is now long retired and has became a long time resident of Pueto Vallarta, Mexico. Still after leaving the Philippines became an import at Venezuela and stayed there for a long time before returning to the US in his retirement from playing. Engelland as we know is now an Assistant Coach for the NBA's San Antonio Spurs, he played in Canada and the CBA before he hng-up hisa sneakers. All of them would have liked to play for the Philippines even after the EDSA Revolution but due to politics they felt unwanted by the BAP at it gave them no choice but to re-acquire US Citizenship.It is the land of my birth;
It is the home of my people.
It protects me and helps me to be strong, happy and useful.
In return, I will heed the counsel of my parents;
I will obey the rules of my school;
I will perform the duties of a patriotic, law-abiding citizen;
I will serve my country unselfishly and faithfully
I will be a true Filipino in thought, in word, in deed"
nardy
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Despite woes, Gilas lineup to stay intact
Monday, 29 November 2010 18:39 Joel Orellana / Reporter
EXCEPT for the impending naturalization of American Marcus Douthit, Smart Gilas will remain intact despite its deplorable sixth-place finish in the recently concluded 16th Asian Games in Guangzhou, China.
Serbian Rajko Toroman said the inclusion of Douthit would change the team’s complexion for next year’s Fiba-Asia Men’s Championship, which provides the ticket for the continent to the London Olympics in 2012.
“We will not have too much adjustment. Our biggest adjustment is Marcus Douthit,” said Toroman, referring to the six-foot-10 American. “He will change everything.”
Many teams adhere to the practice of naturalizing a foreign player to beef up their squads and it is not only in basketball where foreign-born athletes don their new countries’ colors and win medals.
Gilas had Philippine Basketball Association players Asi Taulava (Meralco),
Kelly Williams (Talk ’N Text) and Solomon Mercado (Rain or Shine) in Guangzhou. Mercado, however, was a major letdown because of his injured feet, which worsened at the competitions in the Asian Games. Speculations rose the injury or its state was concealed and that Mercado should not have been in Guangzhou in the first place.
Guangzhou was the biggest disappointment for Philippine basketball. No national team since 1982 missed the Asian Games semifinals, although a squad was unable to wind up inside the top six in 1966.
The Philippine squad was knocked out in the quarterfinals by eventual silver medalist South Korea, 66-74. It was pushed to sixth spot by 2006 Asian Games runner-up Qatar in the battle for fifth, 71-81.
Toroman said the finish was “not bad, but also not good” for the team, but stressed his staff will deeply evaluate what transpired in Guangzhou.
Asked if he would consider more pros for Gilas, he said: “We don’t have any answer for that right now.”
PBA commissioner Atty. Chito Salud, in a recent chat with the BusinessMirrror, said the league is still willing to lend anew three players to Gilas. Anything more than that, he said, would need the PBA board’s approval.
“As long as the players agree and their respective teams also agree, we don’t see any problem with that,” said Salud. “But kung more than three, hindi pa namin masasagot ’yan.”
Toroman said Williams and Taulava were helpful on the defensive end but the team’s offense suffered because the pros joined Gilas for only a short period of time.
“Our offense was not like before and that was our problem. With Marcus, we will have more offensive options,” he said.
Injuries also plagued the team—other than Mercado. Six-foot-nine forward
Japeth Aguilar never played because of a partial tear in his posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) in his right knee, an injury he sustained in a tune-up game against Dongguan Leopards a few days before the Asiad.
The others who played hurt were Marcio Lassiter (hip), Chris Tiu (groin) and JV Casio (groin).
The team arrived on Saturday and will take a break for the holidays. Gilas has been invited to play in an invitational tournament in Dubai early next year.
nardy
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A lot has to be done for Gilas’s Olympics bid
Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:10 Joel Orellana / Reporter
SAMAHANG Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) president Manny V. Pangilinan pointed to bad luck and injuries as the culprits behind Smart Gilas’s woeful campaign in the recent 16th Asian Games in Guangzhou.
But the business mogul and sports benefactor acknowledged that a lot needs to be done to improve Gilas’s chances of qualifying for the 2012 London Olympics.
Despite the national team’s sixth-place finish in Guangzhou 2010—the worst for the county in the quadrennial event since 1966—Pangilinan is still confident London remains in sight.
“Medyo minalas lang tayo sa Guangzhou. Wala si [naturalized player] Marcus Douthit and may injury sina Japeth [Aguilar] and Sol Mercado,” said Pangilinan.
“We will sit down with coach Rajko [Toroman] and the rest of the coaching staff to know the things that need improvement and what our chances are for the coming Olympic qualifier,” he added.
Pangilinan attended Tuesday’s special edition of the weekly Philippine Sportswriters Association (PSA) Forum at the Dragon Gate Restaurant on Roxas Boulevard in Manila to hand cash incentives to the three Filipino boxers who won medals in the quadrennial meet.
Although the purpose of the event was to recognize gold medalist boxer Rey Saludar, silver medalist Annie Albania and bronze medalist Victorio Saludar, Pangilinan was sought for his evaluation of Gilas’s performance in Guangzhou 2010.
“We need to examine the mistakes and the things that went right in Guangzhou,” said Pangilinan. “For every defeat, you should take that opportunity to improve yourself.”
Douthit was not able to play because he still doesn’t have a Philippine passport. Aguilar has to fly home because of a knee injury he sustained in a tune-up game against the Dongguan Leopards of the Chinese Basketball Association (CBA).
Mercado, one of the three reinforcements from the Philippine Basketball Association, was not 100 percent due to a foot injury.
The champion of the 2011 Fiba Asia Men’s Championship, which is tentatively set in Shanghai, earns a berth in the London Games and Pangilinan is hoping Toroman could make the team competitive for the qualifier.
Lebanon, which according to Toroman could have won the gold medal in Guangzhou if only it participated, is a top contender in the Olympic qualifier because of its naturalized player Jackson Vroman.
“Ayoko mawalan ng pag-asa but after seeing the competition in Guangzhou, we need to do a better job to improve our chance for the
London Olympics,” said Pangilinan.
Smart Gilas’s sixth-place finish in Guangzhou matched the country’s worst finish in the 1966 Bangkok Asiad.
Since 1982, the Philippines never missed the semifinal round of the Asiad except in 2006 where the local federation was serving its suspension by the International Basketball Federation.
nardy
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Gilas Pilipinas fate remains unknown
11/30/2010
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source: Christine Moncada | malaya.com.ph
UPDATE: Smart Gilas Pilipinas begins buildup for Fiba Asia bid (click here)
After the debacle in the 16th Asian Games, Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas executive director Noli Eala is mum on where the Smart Gilas squad is headed.
The Philippine Five had their worst finish in the quadrennial tournament since 1982 but the SBP would not readily decide on the team’s fate.
"No comment, the board hasn’t discussed it yet," said Eala who’s currently in Hong Kong. "I’ll know when I get back, pero ngayon no comment muna."
The men’s cage squad, composed of professional and amateur players, failed to reach the semifinals of the Asian Games for the first time in 28 years or since the 9th Asiad in New Delhi, India.
The Filipino cagers wound up in sixth spot after absorbing a 71-81 loss in the hands of the Qataris.
Pro players Asi Taulava, Kelly Williams and Solomon Mercado bannered the Smart Gilas squad which was also composed of Andy Barroca, Chris Tiu, JV Casio, Japeth Aguilar, Gregory Slaughter, Jason Ballesteros, Marcio Lassiter, Mac Baracael and Chris Lutz.
Injuries plagued the RP squad. Aguilar never saw action after he sustained a PCL in his right knee while Mercado was sidelined by a sprained right foot.
nardy
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‘Gilas’ to chart next move; medalists get bonuses tomorrow
by People's Journal Wednesday, 01 December 2010 20:03 ‘Gilas’ to chart next move; medalists get bonuses tomorrow
NO less than the man bankrolling the ambitious campaign of the RP-Smart Gilas team will reassess what remains to be done with the group in the light of its sixth place finish in the recently concluded 16th Asian Games in Guangzhou, China.
Manny V. Pangilinan, president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP), bared a scheduled meeting with Rajko Toroman and his coaching staff to evaluate the performance of the team, and at the same time, chart the next move of the Nationals as they gear up for next year’s FIBA-Asia Olympic qualifying meet to the 2012 London Olympics.
“We’ll convene the team and have a meeting. We’ll sit down with coach Rajko Toroman and his staff, as well as with other members of the basketball community,” said the man commonly known as MVP.
“We’re going to sit down and examine kung ano ang pagkaka-mali natin (in the Asiad), at kung ano rin ang ginawa nating tama,” he added.
Meanwhile, the 20 Filipinos who won medals in the Guangzhou Games led by gold medalist Rey Saludar, will receive an advance Christmas gift in the form of cash incentives to be handed out to them by the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) this Friday.
The incentive package totaled P6.4 million pursuant to Republic Act 9064 or the National Athletes, Coaches, Trainers Benefits Act, with funding coming from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation.
“We wrote PAGCOR (last Tuesday) and the checks should be ready by Friday,” said PSC chairman Ritchie Garcia, who earlier vowed to release the incentives due the Asiad medal winners before the holidays.
“If (the checks) from PAGCOR is not ready by Friday, then we (PSC) will advance it. Basta sa Friday the incentives will be awarded to the athletes,” Garcia said.
A sum of P3.1 million will also be given by the government sports agency to the coaches responsible for guiding all Filipino medal winners.
The thanksgiving ceremony is set 5 p.m. Friday at the badminton hall of the Rizal Memorial Sports Complex, with President Aquino invited to grace the event to be preceded by the traditional first Friday Mass.
Although hurting inside, Pangilinan, chairman of PLDT/Smart Communication, believes breaks didn’t go the Philippines’ way, citing the injuries suffered by key players Japeth Aguilar and Sol Mercado during the course of the three-week long meet, and the failure to naturalize 6-foot-11 Marcus Douthit in time for the Asiad.
“Medyo minalas tayo sa basketball,” said Pangilinan of the Filipinos’ stint in basketball, one of the numerous sports he’s been financially supporting along with boxing and taekwondo.
But after re-evaluating Smart-Gilas’ showing in the Asiad, Pangilinan said it is eminent for the team to focus its attention to the FIBA-Asia Olympic qualifier, the tournament it was exactly geared up for when it was first conceived almost two years ago.
No venue has yet been selected for the staging of the meet after FIBA withdrew the scheduled hosting of Lebanon, although from what he heard of in Guangzhou, Pangilinan said the London Games qualifier may likely take place in Shanghai, China.
“Hindi pa naman confirm `yun, but it could either be in September or October,” said the SBP prexy.
Only a single slot for Asia in the London Games will be at stake during the FIBA-Asia meet.
NO less than the man bankrolling the ambitious campaign of the RP-Smart Gilas team will reassess what remains to be done with the group in the light of its sixth place finish in the recently concluded 16th Asian Games in Guangzhou, China.
Manny V. Pangilinan, president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP), bared a scheduled meeting with Rajko Toroman and his coaching staff to evaluate the performance of the team, and at the same time, chart the next move of the Nationals as they gear up for next year’s FIBA-Asia Olympic qualifying meet to the 2012 London Olympics.
“We’ll convene the team and have a meeting. We’ll sit down with coach Rajko Toroman and his staff, as well as with other members of the basketball community,” said the man commonly known as MVP.
“We’re going to sit down and examine kung ano ang pagkaka-mali natin (in the Asiad), at kung ano rin ang ginawa nating tama,” he added.
Meanwhile, the 20 Filipinos who won medals in the Guangzhou Games led by gold medalist Rey Saludar, will receive an advance Christmas gift in the form of cash incentives to be handed out to them by the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) this Friday.
The incentive package totaled P6.4 million pursuant to Republic Act 9064 or the National Athletes, Coaches, Trainers Benefits Act, with funding coming from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation.
“We wrote PAGCOR (last Tuesday) and the checks should be ready by Friday,” said PSC chairman Ritchie Garcia, who earlier vowed to release the incentives due the Asiad medal winners before the holidays.
“If (the checks) from PAGCOR is not ready by Friday, then we (PSC) will advance it. Basta sa Friday the incentives will be awarded to the athletes,” Garcia said.
A sum of P3.1 million will also be given by the government sports agency to the coaches responsible for guiding all Filipino medal winners.
The thanksgiving ceremony is set 5 p.m. Friday at the badminton hall of the Rizal Memorial Sports Complex, with President Aquino invited to grace the event to be preceded by the traditional first Friday Mass.
Although hurting inside, Pangilinan, chairman of PLDT/Smart Communication, believes breaks didn’t go the Philippines’ way, citing the injuries suffered by key players Japeth Aguilar and Sol Mercado during the course of the three-week long meet, and the failure to naturalize 6-foot-11 Marcus Douthit in time for the Asiad.
“Medyo minalas tayo sa basketball,” said Pangilinan of the Filipinos’ stint in basketball, one of the numerous sports he’s been financially supporting along with boxing and taekwondo.
But after re-evaluating Smart-Gilas’ showing in the Asiad, Pangilinan said it is eminent for the team to focus its attention to the FIBA-Asia Olympic qualifier, the tournament it was exactly geared up for when it was first conceived almost two years ago.
No venue has yet been selected for the staging of the meet after FIBA withdrew the scheduled hosting of Lebanon, although from what he heard of in Guangzhou, Pangilinan said the London Games qualifier may likely take place in Shanghai, China.
“Hindi pa naman confirm `yun, but it could either be in September or October,” said the SBP prexy.
Only a single slot for Asia in the London Games will be at stake during the FIBA-Asia meet.
nardy
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from http://www.sbp.ph/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=19
who should go and stay with the team?
by webuyube » Thu Nov 25, 2010
who should go and stay with the team?
1. Mark Barroca - a good defender but too many TOs in Asian games
2. Mac Baracael - performs well, then in the next game hes.(inconsistent)
3. Dylan Ababou - a good shooter, probably perform better than lutz if given a chance to play
4. Japeth Aguilar - athletic 6,9 but injury prone, kulang sa angas
5. Jason Ballesteros - lack of playing minutes, a good SF but small for a PF, i cant feel his presence when he plays
6. JV Casio - one of the most consistent players , good shooter, a court general
7. Greg Slaughter - needs more playing time to be evaluated, at 7'0 .hight is might.
8. Aldrech Ramos - not given a chance to play, at 6'7 he could be a help for baracael.
9. Marcio Lassiter - probably the best member and the most consistent in gilas, has a good shooting touch
10. Asi Taulava - THE ROCK, i think was born to play internationally, he sucks in the pba but then hes a MoNster under the basket in Asian games
11.Kelly Williams - athletic 6'7,can help with the rebounds ,the best player of gilas if hes going to be a mainstay
12. Chris Tiu - the face of SMART-Gilas, a good leader and motivator..do all the dirty work for the teambut hes inconsistent also
13. Marcus Douhtit - 6'11 naturalized ex-nba guy
14. Sol Mercado - i expected much from him but dissapointed now, could make a difference if hes not injured
15. Chris Lutz - a great defender but i think this guy is too shy offensively
nardy
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Smart Gilas competing in Dubai tilt
June Navarro
First Posted 01:45:42 30/11/2010
Filed Under: Basketball, Smart Gilas Pilipinas, Asian Games, Guangzhou
Smart Gilas Pilipinas took a month-long break before going through the final stretch of its preparations for the 2011 Fiba Asia Championship.
RP coach Rajko Toroman said the Dubai International Tournament in January will kick off the team’s itinerary for next year.
After finishing sixth in the Guangzhou Asian Games, Smart Gilas is on vacation and will resume practice after Christmas, tentatively on Dec. 27.
The tough Dubai joust, which allows three imports of unlimited height, is scheduled Jan. 20 to 29. The RP five copped third place in the same tournament last year.
Toroman has also penciled a foreign training in Serbia either in February or March before the Nationals compete in the Fiba Asia Champions Cup.
Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas officials are lobbying for the hosting of the Champions Cup, a tournament for the best club teams in the continent, come April or May.
Toroman said the William Jones Cup will be the last training stop for Smart Gilas prior to the Fiba Asia Championship, which offers only a single ticket for the region in the 2012 London Olympics.
The SBP has also placed its bid on the Asian championship after Fiba Asia earlier stripped the hosting from Lebanon.
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I like to echo again if Gilas is to tap again PBA reinforcements, for it to have a chance to be successful, the PBA players to be loaned must be released early from their PBA duties and would exclusively train and play for Gilas only until the actual Qualifyer tournament.
The PBA Players should also train and play overseas as part of the Gilas preparation. Since we know the PBA players would be play major minutes, they need to harmonize quickly with the core of the team. What is the use of all the training if the players to play major minutes in the actual games was not exposed to the kind of preparation the rest of the team is undergoing.
FatFingerz
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Sir Nardy I have a question.
When did the Senate pass the naturalization bill of Doughtit? Because, if I can remember it right, there are three ways for a bill to be approved by the president.
1.) President signs it.
2.) President vetoes it but it is overriden by the Congress votes.
3.) Lack of action from the President within 30 days after he has received the same.
So the 30 days rule might be already in effect? Just asking.
ARISTOTLE
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Sir Nardy I have a question.
When did the Senate pass the naturalization bill of Doughtit? Because, if I can remember it right, there are three ways for a bill to be approved by the president.
1.) President signs it.
2.) President vetoes it but it is overriden by the Congress votes.
3.) Lack of action from the President within 30 days after he has received the same.
So the 30 days rule might be already in effect? Just asking.
This might make it into law. What is sure is if P-noy does not sign this in 30 days after receiving it, Douthit is already a Filipino by January 1 next year by default.
gaLj
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durden_tyler
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From the IBN front page:
Rehashed topics basically but it all boils down to not sending our best players really, which is sad and true to our current state of basketball. (By the way, who writes these articles for IBN? Which mods? Local mods? i felt he knows the current state and appreciate the feature, even though it puts the entire program on bad light)
Rehashed topics basically but it all boils down to not sending our best players really, which is sad and true to our current state of basketball. (By the way, who writes these articles for IBN? Which mods? Local mods? i felt he knows the current state and appreciate the feature, even though it puts the entire program on bad light)
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