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Qualification for EC 09 in Poland

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Bosnia - Portugal

Which score is the real one?


That from tv broadcast or that from finaeurope.com live score?
 
Crap game by Portugal, I wonder if they'll reach 50. I was very optimistic about the hiring of Moncho López, but in the light of the recent games not anymore. Melnychuk is being missed.
 
rikhardur said:
Only Belinelli can save Recalcati's job. Great come from behind by the Italians, 51-51 entering the fourth.
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Belinelly played by-himself. Yes, he scored many hard baskets, but it is not the way a PG should play.

Batum was awesome. He even played PG in some crucial minutes. Despite the air ball at the end of 4th, he was grate in money-time.
Diaw did what Diaw does.
I'm also satisfied with the first game (including preparation games) if Diot. He didn't made those virtuosic passes which made me fall in love with him in the U20 tournament, but after several mistakes in the first minutes on the floor he was OK, wasn't too dominant on the offense, just made simple but good things, and was good on defense (what the other PGs suffered).
 
ip84 said:
Belinelly played by-himself. Yes, he scored many hard baskets, but it is not the way a PG should play.
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In fact Marco is a SG... he has to be the go-to-guy of our team and has to play like that because we have no team offensive plays at all (thanks to our "beloved" coach Recalcati)... :rolleyes:

Batum was awesome. He even played PG in some crucial minutes. Despite the air ball at the end of 4th, he was grate in money-time.
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Yeah, Batum played great. I'm surprised how good he seems right now... i remember just a defensive player but he can do it all...

Regarding tonight's game... what a pity the Mancinelli injury... he was our best player tonight and french suffered him a lot... without him and Gallinari we have no other decent SFs (Soragna, please out of our NT soon!)...

Bargnani has to be involved much more in the game otherwise he's useless...

Nice hustle game by Gigli (as usual) and a good surprise the first international game by Cusin...

We also lack a credible PG at this point... :rolleyes:
 
I expected this comment. Bellineli is a combo, and most of the time the ball was in his hands today. So on the offense he was the PG.

The game seemed too aggressive for Bargnani (I say it although I love this player and watched Toronto this season first of all because of him). But I also blame the team and the coach that didn't help and even force him to be more involved.
 
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Portugal-Bosnia and Herzegovina 67:58

Portugal edged Bosnia and Herzegovina for the final place at the EuroBasket 2009 got off to an explosive start. The home side produced 67:58 for the first victory and strike a key early blow in the Additional Qualifying Round.
It was a great game from both sides and both of them deserved a win. Bosnia and Herzegovina was in front in the opening quarter however did not keep the score for good. The most interesting part was at the end of the game and brought excitement in the court.
Ratko Varda (216-C/F-79) made 58:55 with less than 6 minutes in the fourth period. Jorge Coelho (200-C-78) netted two free throws for 60:55 with 4 minutes on the board and then the teams remained scoreless for more than a minute. Gomes missed two free -throws as well as Jorge Coelho misses a jump shot. Carlos Andrade (197-F-78, college: Queens (NC)) made only one shot for 61:55, while Ratko Varda grabbed a rebound after that. Gomes made his 7th point for 63:55 as it became clear that the hosts would not fail in the rest of the time left. Bosnia and Herzegovina continued to foul and Ivan Opacak (202-G/F-80, agency: World Sport Agency) made an unsportsmanlike, while Gomes added two for 65:55. Gordic brought one point for the guests, whilst again Gomes replied for 67:56. Aida Dedovic (181-F/C-84) made two free-throws at the end for the final 67:58 score.
Jorge Coelho led the way with 14 points for the victory. Carlos Andrade and Da Silva followed him with 11 each in Additional Qualifying Round explosive start. Ivan Opacak finished the night with 14 points in the losing case, whilst Ratko Varda and Aida Dedovic added 12 each.

Portugal: Jorge Coelho 14, Carlos Andrade 11, Da Silva 11
Bosnia and Herzegovina: Ivan Opacak 14, Ratko Varda 12, Aida Dedovic 12
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this is a true masterpiece by eurobasket.com :D :D :D
they were following the game on FIBA live score..
someone should tell them the real result :D:D
 
Picek said:
this is a true masterpiece by eurobasket.com :D :D :D
they were following the game on FIBA live score..
someone should tell them the real result :D:D
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and the real name of djedovic...aida:D that's a girl name:D:D, his name is nihad
 
ip84 said:
I expected this comment. Bellineli is a combo, and most of the time the ball was in his hands today. So on the offense he was the PG.
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In the end sometimes he passed the ball to his teammates and they obviously missed... so for us it's better he shoots. It's sad but it's a need for a team without plays like Italy... fu-c-k-ing Recalcati... :mad:
 
I was in the arena and I saw Portugal losing against B&H by 56-62. Questionable options from Moncho López (attacking options and the rotation of the players) and the low FT% were fatal to Portugal...
 
Toxicity said:
In the end sometimes he passed the ball to his teammates and they obviously missed... so for us it's better he shoots. It's sad but it's a need for a team without plays like Italy... fu-c-k-ing Recalcati... :mad:
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Well, I admit I was mistaken.

I have network problems and the picture was stuck a lot of time, until middle of 3rd it was really tough to watch, so I downloaded the game and rewatched it.
Well, Bellineli was the only guard who did something positive. I think the Italian team as a unit didn't play right, and I don't care who was the PG (I mean, who was the real PG in France? Actually there where two Point Forwards, Diaw and Batum).
Instead of trying to get Bargnani into the game, they gave up on it after Batum stole the ball twice on a pass. They took too many difficult 3 pointers, couldn't get the ball inside. But it also good defense of France. Many teams will struggle offensively against France.

Btw, how is Mancinelly? What excactlly happened to him?
 
ip84 said:
Well, I admit I was mistaken.

I have network problems and the picture was stuck a lot of time, until middle of 3rd it was really tough to watch, so I downloaded the game and rewatched it.
Well, Bellineli was the only guard who did something positive. I think the Italian team as a unit didn't play right, and I don't care who was the PG (I mean, who was the real PG in France? Actually there where two Point Forwards, Diaw and Batum).
Instead of trying to get Bargnani into the game, they gave up on it after Batum stole the ball twice on a pass. They took too many difficult 3 pointers, couldn't get the ball inside. But it also good defense of France. Many teams will struggle offensively against France.
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We don't have offensive plays thanks to our coach so the players are forced to shoot the 3 ball too often... even if they're not in the same class as the past Italian NTs (like that of 2004 with Basile and Galanda)... the result is poor percentages and few offensive rebounds.

France is good but not undefeatable... they're athletic but commit many mistakes through a game. And they shoot bad usually... Italy has to explore these weaknesses in Paris if wants to steal the victory. Even if Tony Parker will be back for them...

Btw, how is Mancinelly? What excactlly happened to him?
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Shoulder dislocation... end of the Additional Qualification Round for him. :(
 
Toxicity said:
We don't have offensive plays thanks to our coach so the players are forced to shoot the 3 ball too often... even if they're not in the same class as the past Italian NTs (like that of 2004 with Basile and Galanda)... the result is poor percentages and few offensive rebounds.

France is good but not undefeatable... they're athletic but commit many mistakes through a game. And they shoot bad usually... Italy has to explore these weaknesses in Paris if wants to steal the victory. Even if Tony Parker will be back for them...

Shoulder dislocation... end of the Additional Qualification Round for him. :(
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Well if you plan to explore our weaknesses in paris, we don't fear a lot. As italy is supposed to play in Pau :p

Seriously speaking, yeah it's not like france has any margin over italy, staff & players and fans are well aware of that. The good thing being that we won the game and the pressure won't be on our shoulders.

It will be a different game with parker anyway. I just hope he won't screw up what we saw from our front court in that game.
 
raph said:
It will be a different game with parker anyway. I just hope he won't screw up what we saw from our front court in that game.
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well that could easily happen..
Collet needs to be smart about it and use him coming in from the bench instead of starting and playing 25+ minutes..
he missed the most important part of the preparations and he missed the first game, a game where the team played a really good team basketball effort..
and that can all be totally screwed with his come back..
 
How will be out today so that Parker will be in?

I just hope that not Diot... More likely it will be Jacson who didn't play still.
Moreover, in the game like the one vs Finland, will all there respect, I would like him to get minutes and to get confidence as he didn't play at the preparation games.

Timmo Ranikko will play, right? I remember him from Olimpija, nice player.
 
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Watching France-Finland game, Finns hitting crazy threepointers , that's keeping them in game, although overpowered in the paint.
 
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