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Alex072
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Japeth- should not put the ball down.
refs-should be wearing glasses.
pba- should stop enforcing height limit on imports.
PBA season 2010-2011 (Commissioner's Cup)
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Japeth- should not put the ball down.
refs-should be wearing glasses.
pba- should stop enforcing height limit on imports.
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EaglesEye2
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On that particular play, the referee will really not call a foul.
First, it was a battle for the rebound. Second, it happened in the dying seconds, so therefore they (referees) didn't want to decide the game. Even if Aguilar was clipped in the hand as he put the ball down, they simply let it go.
The PBA will not stop enforcing the height limit for imports. Then, why make the height limit an issue?
Eversince I watched PBA, there were really height limits. From as short as
6'1" to an unlimited height. During those times that 6'1" imports like Sean Chambers, Kenny Travis and Ennis Whatley, 6'2" Tony Harris, 6'3" Lamont Strothers and 6'4" Derek Brown were playing, the games were more exciting. I saw the games at a higher level. How many times we saw them coming back to play? But we didn't hear any feedback to abolish that height limit during the times they were playing.
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Alex072
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well that was then...when internet and cable tv are only for the ones who could afford it.one of the reason why the pba's popularity is declining is because you see the same old midgets getting overwhelmed by slightly the taller Fil-Americans.The ABL teams can afford 6'8-6'9 imports,why can't the PBA teams?
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kaiziken_pinas2
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Tama!
Unless Jason Dixon, Steve Thomas, Kyle Jeffers and Justin Leith's salary is way lower than the imports of CBA and etc.
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Lebron232
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I really hated the 6'4 and under height limit rule in the PBA. I am sure all of the players would improve if they play againts taller imports.
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ramjo2
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Imports today are no longer as dominating as they used to. Could it be that PBA players have somehow caught up with their skills, particularly with the entry of Fil-Ams? As it is, these short imports no longer bring additional excitement to the league. I guess the logical move would have been to allow for taller imports to further upskill our players, otherwise, the league could stagnate and may prove more detrimental in the long run (vs having the teams invest in more expensive, but taller imports).
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CoJ2
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its either the locals (both homegrown and Fil Ams) had improved dramatically, or the quality of imports we are getting are subpar due to better employment and compensation offered by Euro leagues or the CBA...
in short, we're not getting quality imports...regardless of height
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eindhow2
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I believe Aguilar was trying to lock the ball but because there were so many hands in there he couldn't get a grip.. But damn that almost went against Gilas..
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than112
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I think a Powerade player wrapped his hands around Japeth after he got the rebound, he was trying to give a quick foul..refs didn't call it..Japeth lost possesion..and we all know what happened next..
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nardy2
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The answer is because there is no 10th team.
Barako Bull is not coming back.
SMART GILAS is not sure of participating, if they do they're not getting an import as Douthit is considered by the PBA as their reinforcement.
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ariel_muhlach2
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Huh ?????????
Since the rules/format say the 9th and 10th team per ranking had the privilege of getting a 6'6 import.
If Barako Bull returns they are considered the worst in the 2nd conference and thus earns the 6'6 import if they do not return then there's no 10th team.
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ariel_muhlach2
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nope we are just getting cheap imports whose quality is not really that way above the local talent.
As long as we could not afford high quality imports which are more expensive then expect the kind of imports we are getting.
Unfortunately in import players, big money is needed and we are just a poor country having a hard time keeping pace with the richer countries who continues to overpay even the undeserving imported players.
years before the next best option of American Players when they fail to make the NBA or was dropped from the NBA was the PBA ..... some even used the PBA as the springboard to get back to the NBA. But when the Open era of basketball happened in the 1990s everything changed, Professional Leagues prospered all over the world and since we are actually not among the richest countries in the world, the more richer countries could make much bigger offers which soon become more and more out of the reach of the PBA teams' affordability.
Sad to say but the truth is the Rich Countries get the first crack on quality import players and we are left with 'LATAKs' when our turn comes.
Until our economy peaks up expect the trend to turn worse as more and more countries are becoming more prosperous than the Philippines.
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nardy2
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A formula that we could follow is the time other countries caught up with Brazil in Soccer Football, what Brazil did is allow their best players to become import players in other countries, the Brazilians thus earn more when they play away from home and were able to improve the quality of their game by getting exposed to all kinds of styles all over the world and then harmonizing the best they learned to the best of Brazilian style of play. The Brazilians did not let foreigners come over and influence their game but they came out and influenced the world with their Football.
But for that to be successful, we need Filipinos who would prosper abroad to come back and share it back home.
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Roseblade132
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This would only happen if we could advertise our players by succeeding in the international level, imagine if we qualify to the Olympics, the world championships, or the world championships for clubs it opens up doors for the pinoy player to be able to compete abroad, I hope some guys from the SG program would at least try to make it abroad for it would open up opportunities for the future of Philippine basketball look at China and Iran they leveled up on the Asian level because they have guys who at least made it into the NBA, Perhaps it only takes one player to open the door for everyone, a;lso this would be good for pinoy players in general because it would give a better chance of living and opportunities for them.
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angmamatayngdahilsa'yo2
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i hope the jason de jong experience won't happen in this scenario.
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EaglesEye2
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Ah! So you mean, you want our guards and small forwards to match up 7 footer imports! Do you think that will help them improve their games?
The league can afford to hire imports of unlimited height. Why not? No doubt about it. How many times we saw it already.
Only that, the PBA are simply making sure that all players in every positions will be able to get equal opportunities to match up against imports. Consider this one: If the PBA will always use unlimited height, only centers and frontliners will be benefited. Only their games will be improved since they always match up with big imports. But how about the guards and swingmen? How can they improve if they will just guard their fellow locals and enjoy watching the match up between big guys underneath? Therefore, there are times they have to get 6'6" imports for the benefits of their swingmen and SF. Such that, they (swingmen and SF) can also have chance to match up with them (imports). Then for imports who stand 6'1" or 6'2", they could play the PG and OG positions, so this time, the guards can also have the opportunity to be pitted against them. They are just balancing the equation so that everybody will be able to have a chance to enchance their games by matching up with imports which play the same position with them.
I also agree that imports today are no longer dominating like those I've mentioned. Whether they are 6'1" or 7 foot. It could be that the locals are already used to playing with them and already adjusted to their brand of plays. Or the salary factor for imports which is very much lower than the other countries could be the other reason. When I first watch PBA in 1991, I red in the newspapers imports receiving $30K a month (if I'm not mistaken). Year after year, they're lowering it. And now I heared it's only $15K to $20K (correct me if I'm wrong). So rather than playing here, imports are going elsewhere and those going to us are mostly left overs.
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nardy2
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Yes while our PBA Teams could only afford a monthly US$15K to US$25K, the Europeans and China are more than willing in giving-out on the average US$100K per month even if a big number of those imports does not really deserve to be paid that high. Some have not actually proven themselves while others are wash-out veterans already past their prime.
From what I heard they are doing that in order to lure out the quality players who are in the NBA D-League and Continental Basketball Association (CBA) so that said players would instead go overseas than wait for a NBA call-up which does not even guarantee a big salary or quality playing time.
Before our PBA Teams could go out match what are being offered by foreign teams, now its doubly difficult. Aside from the hard economic time we are still in right now, a factor is the BIR had already caught some of the ways the PBA Teams get away in order to afford paying its players high salaries. Its because before all the players salaries are declared as deductibles in their Corporate Income Tax as part of their Marketing Expenses. What the BIR did was set a ceiling in which a PBA Team could declare as part of the deductible Marketing Expense. The PBA could not just pass it on as if its the burden by the Government paying the salaries of the said players and which indirectly point to the Filipino Taxpayers as the one really shouldering the salary. That's why before its very bearable for a company to maintain a PBA team, but now with the high cost of maintaining a team, it is more difficult to get high-salaried imports especially on the teams that are not really that big a company.
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capitantiago2
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although some chinese and euro clubs can offer astronomical salaries, the same clubs cannot pay their players's salaries on time, if not at all.
at least in the pba, these imports are paid on time and they are not short changed by our teams.
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CoJ2
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except for Barako Bull! lol
some russian teams are infamous for not paying players on time, like in the case of Boston's Nenad Krstic, who bought out his own contract to be able to play in the NBA again....
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nardy2
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But still the players and agents would rather go to China than here.
Just look at Lee Benson, everything he asked was given by Sta Lucia but what happened instead of being appreciative and contented on the extra length that the Sta Lucia management just to keep him, he did all those stupid antics in order to force the hand of Sta Lucia to terminate him and enable him to sign-up with a CBA team in China.
The SBP almost afford what it could offer just to entice Courtney Sims, Terrence Gamble, Chris Taft and even Jamal Sampson but they all have so many reasons and alibis not to be here with Jamal even faking an injury but look where they are all right now, they are now all playing in the CBA of China.
I don't know why despite some horror stories of teams in China, in the Middle East and a few European are not paying salaries on time, they would rather risk it than come over here in the Philippines.
But we are also guilty of the same crime, its known in the wide circle of international players agents that Red Bull, Sta Lucia, Air21 and even SMART GILAS had incurred problems and at times were also delayed in giving player salaries.
Hopefully Philippine Economy improves this year so that next year our PBA teams could more or less recovered also and be able to afford imports of better quality and wishfully 'taller' than what we have these days.
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