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Outrageous article by Walla - "All Saints Day"

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Tonight Walla published outrageous lies by Mr. Vainauskas - President of Rytas Vilnius saying that "All Saints Day" is memorial day in Lithuania and Vilna supposedly asked Euroleague and Maccabi to shift the game. He said that Maccabi refused and EL not answered...
I wondering - same "All Saints Day" is for all Western Europe countries, and it somehow does not bother Spanish Real, Barca and Tau, Italian Bologna, Slovenian Olimpija and French Le Mans to play tomorrow. Why only Rytas suddenly is offended? And why Walla publishes such a "news'???
I think it is all the same story again - like in Spahija case - crazy Vainauskas published all kinds of lies against Maccabi and Spahija, while have signed another coach... Psychological war against Maccabi by Rytas I can understand, but red Walla cooperating - it is really outrageous.
 
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elaj said:
De Ridder said:
Question to Lithuanians here
Do you have a memorial day tomorrow?
Is it ok to play basketball games at this day? like Rytas against Maccabi
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Yes, tomorrow is "All Saints' Day" but the games have been played on this day almost every year so I don't see why they wouldn't play it tomorrow. ;)

It's just a custom mostly to light candles and visit the graves of deceased relatives, nothing else.
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That's what I wrote in the other topic... I don't know how serious people take this holiday, because as I see people in Slovenia mostly consider this just as a custom...

As I heard from my Lithuanian friends... don't take that Vainauskas serious, he is a handicaped, half retarded, drug addict. ;)
 
Vainauskas I do not take seriously - my anger is against so called "journalists" at Walla site. No other self-respecting site in Israel did not publish it. Only Walla took it as scoop...:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
MikeMaccabiFan said:
Tonight Walla published outrageous lies by Mr. Vainauskas - President of Rytas Vilna, saying that "All Saints Day" is memorial day in Lithuania and Vilna supposedly asked Euroleague and Maccabi to shift the game. He said that Maccabi refused and EL not answered...
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It's Vilnius, not Vilna. It's slightly similar to calling Jerusalem al-Quds
Anyway, I don't understand what harm was done by this article?
 
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LuDux said:
It's Vilnius, not Vilna. It's similar to calling Jerusalem al-Quds
Anyway, I don't understand what harm was done by this article?
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It's not the same, but I edited.
And about harm - you have to see talkbacks...
 
1. I don't understand the fuss about this.
2. What is 'red' Walla ?
3. The last thing i want to see is religion interfering with basketball.
 
ArkadiosV2 said:
1. I don't understand the fuss about this.
2. What is 'red' Walla ?
3. The last thing i want to see is religion interfering with basketball.
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1. As I wrote - you had to see talkbacks full of fire and brimstone against Maccabi. Most of them are Hapoel fans, but still. All this is on our local sensitivity to remembrance etc.
2. Walla is site which belongs to Haaretz newspaper - considered as very left (i.e. red) one. Some might call it "ultra left".
3. Agree. In any case those are just ravings of mad Vainauskas, but as I wrote, problem is "journalists" giving him too much publicity.
 
He probably paid them to write such stuff - he really knows how to flame. :)

His father is full of money, while his son is full of shit. :)
 
MikeMaccabiFan said:
1. As I wrote - you had to see talkbacks full of fire and brimstone against Maccabi. Most of them are Hapoel fans, but still. All this is on our local sensitivity to remembrance etc.
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So you angry because Vainauskas and Hapoel fans don't respected Maccabi enough?
 
LuDux said:
So you angry because Vainauskas and Hapoel fans don't respected Maccabi enough?
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No, I mostly angry that so-called "journalists" did not make their job, which is very simple - 1. Check what "All Saints Day" is (Wikipedia has extensive article, as elaj wrote). 2. Check with EL why they (supposedly) did not answer to Rytas. 3. Check why in the hell all Western European teams from Catholic countries do not mind to play tomorrow. 4. Check with Maccabi.
They did only 4th. Maccabi hotly denied all this. So instead of check first 3 and say - OMG this is bullshit, they published it.
 
MikeMaccabiFan said:
No, I mostly angry that so-called "journalists" did not make their job, which is very simple - 1. Check what "All Saints Day" is (Wikipedia has extensive article, as elaj wrote). 2. Check with EL why they (supposedly) did not answer to Rytas. 3. Check why in the hell all Western European teams from Catholic countries do not mind to play tomorrow. 4. Check with Maccabi.
They did only 4th. Maccabi hotly denied all this. So instead of check first 3 and say - OMG this is bullshit, they published it.
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have you ever heard about "yellow" newspapers?
so what if they wrote that?
you don't have to read it or give any attention to that..
 
Picek said:
have you ever heard about "yellow" newspapers?
so what if they wrote that?
you don't have to read it or give any attention to that..
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Sure, but they claim to be "intellectual" and "progressive":p
 
Dude you are doing the same things they do.

You have taken this from it's original context of 'not-serious journalism' to political arguments, accusing them being 'red' and then mocking their 'intellectual' or 'progressive' status.

I don't know why you got so upset at the first place and continue with all this hate.
 
The answer is simple-they are just enraged that the situation is not a full 100% of the people supportive of maccabi.
For comparison, try to imagine a world in which olympiacos is in the third division, no SEF and no kokkalis/angelopoulos brothers to support the team. then replace every maccabi fan reply in this topic to the likes of users such as crazy green, and you will get the picture.
 
MikeMaccabiFan said:
Tonight Walla published outrageous lies by Mr. Vainauskas - President of Rytas Vilnius saying that "All Saints Day" is memorial day in Lithuania and Vilna supposedly asked Euroleague and Maccabi to shift the game. He said that Maccabi refused and EL not answered...
I wondering - same "All Saints Day" is for all Western Europe countries, and it somehow does not bother Spanish Real, Barca and Tau, Italian Bologna, Slovenian Olimpija and French Le Mans to play tomorrow. Why only Rytas suddenly is offended? And why Walla publishes such a "news'???
I think it is all the same story again - like in Spahija case - crazy Vainauskas published all kinds of lies against Maccabi and Spahija, while have signed another coach... Psychological war against Maccabi by Rytas I can understand, but red Walla cooperating - it is really outrageous.
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This is not the same "all saints day" as for all Western Europe. On 1 Nov lithuanians usually visit graves of dead relatives and friends. In Lithuania it is special day, I haven't seen that somebody in Western Europe lights up candles on graves on 1 Nov. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So in this context Vainauskas was right.

-- about being "red". BC Lietuvos rytas official color ir red. So what do you want? :)

-- about Spahija. Spahija had very "successful" season in Maccabi. He deserved every minute of his "glory". Life is the best judge for him. So forget this Spahija case once and for all. BTW, in Spahija war both sides Rytas and Maccabi published enough lies.


Anyway, I understand your feelings. It is not very pleasant, when some unknown club slaps in a face your almighty maccabi..:) But according to E. Kusturica - Život je cudo..
 
ROBINIS said:
This is not the same "all saints day" as for all Western Europe. On 1 Nov lithuanians usually visit graves of dead relatives and friends. In Lithuania it is special day, I haven't seen that somebody in Western Europe lights up candles on graves on 1 Nov. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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WIKIPEDIA said:
In Portugal, Spain and Mexico, ofrendas (offerings) are made on this day. In Spain, the play Don Juan Tenorio is traditionally performed. In Belgium, France, Hungary, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Spain people bring flowers to the graves of dead relatives.

In Poland, Czech, Sweden, Finland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Croatia, Austria, Romania, Hungary and Germany, the tradition is to light candles and visit the graves of deceased relatives.

In the Philippines, the day is spent visiting the graves of deceased relatives, where they offer prayers, lay flowers, and light candles.

In English speaking countries, the festival is traditionally celebrated with the hymn "For All the Saints" by William Walsham How.
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....pss....
 
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