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Lebanese League -Official thread- News and Updates

Hello everybody. It's been a couple of weeks since I've posted. Looks like I've missed quite alot. First off, congrats to Riyadi for the title. Tough luck for Mouttahed. Hope the competition will be even better next year.

The rumors about the offseason signings seem to be indicating that. If Sagesse can get Jean Abdelnour then they have their 1,2 and 3 spots set. Also, if they sign with Matt Freije then they'll only need a good 5 and that's a team that can contend for the title and Asian Club Championships for sure.

Anybody know if LBC or any other channel will be broadcasting the exhibition games for the NT prior to the Olympic Qualifiers?

assad06 - Yes FIBA decided to extend the 3 point line
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/24352/arti.html

25-26 April 2008
All below-mentioned rules will come into effect as of 1st October 2008, i.e. after the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.

PR N°25 - Art. 2.2.4 Three-point field goal area
The distance of the three-point line shall be 6,75 m (and not 6,25 m as present).



Haven't had much time to post between university and work. Final exams coming up so I just wanted to post a few articles I typed out while I got some free time about 2 imports we had this year in the league, Kevin Johnson and Derrick Tarver, in case someone was interested.

I stumbled upon these articles just a few hours ago by accident. After Leon Powe's great performance today, I decided to re-read an article about him printed back in the April 2003 issue of SLAM Magazine #68. After flipping through the pages I found a small article about Tarver then just one page back there was another about Kevin. AND ONLY 2 more pages back another mention of former Riyadi player Scotty Thurman and his past NCAA heroics. Small world indeed. ( They also mention that Anderson Hunt who was the NCAA Tournament MVP back in '89 played in Lebanon. Anybody remember him?)
Anyway here they are:

HEART AND SOUL by Ryan Jones


Motivation is never a problem for Derrick Tarver. When the U. of Akron junior needs a spark, he need only remember how quickly the game could be taken away from him. The Akron native spent his first two college seasons blowing up the JuCo ranks in Texas and California, averaging 28 and 31 ppg. Choosing a return to his hometown over offers from Fresno State and Texas Tech, Tarver got a scare when his twin brother, Darren, suffered a heart attack last May. In the midst of making his own D1 mark at George Mason, Darren found his playing days were over. Tests showed signs of the same condition in Derrick, but after having a defibrillator implanted in October and getting a clean bill of health, he joined the Zips for the ’02-’03 season. “For a minute, I thought I wouldn’t be able to play,” Derrick says. “That’s why I work so hard. I dedicated my season to my brother. I’m just fortunate.”

So are the Zips. Through their first 12 games, the 6-4 Tarver was averaging 24 ppg. “What I’m doing now doesn’t surprise me,” he says. “ My whole life, I’ve been underrated. I just keep working.” With motivation like that, the work comes easy.



HOMEGAME by Ben Osborne


Tulsa senior Kevin Johnson may have the bloodlines for football, but the Golden Hurricanes are thankful he chose hoops. "My father (Marshall Johnson, a Baltimore Colt in the mid 70's) was in the NFL for a couple of years, but he saw the ugly side of football with injuries and politics." tells Johnson, considered by some the most underrated player in the country. "So when my brothers and I took to basketball instead, he was very supportive of that."

Johnson’s folks were supportive all around, home schooling Kevin from fourth grade through high school. For hoops, the Houston-area native linked up with a team of fellow home-schoolers from the region, and he also did the AAU thing. “The experience was the same as playing for a private school, and I went to a lot of camps, so I don’t feel like my basketball upbringing was any different than most top players,” explains the 6-8, 222-pound forward.

Johnson was certainly recruited like a top player, and he couldn’t be happier with his choice. After a redshirt season in ’98-’99, Johnson has steadily increased his importance to the ultra-solid Tulsa program, lifting his per-game scoring average each year to this season’s 17.2, which looks lovely next to his 7.4 rpg and 2.0 bpg through mid-January. “As a team, we feel it’s obvious that we can play with any team in the country,” Johnson says. “And I’m at the point where – whether people know who I am or not – I can play with any forward in the country”

Just found it interesting that Bassel Bawji, who daniab has been updating us on, is also a Houston-area player (Lebanese of course) who will be playing for Tulsa. And Bassel's height and weight? 6-foot-8 inches, 225-pounds of course :eek: . Pretty similar to Kevin wouldn't you say :p
 
illmatic88 said:
The rumors about the offseason signings seem to be indicating that. If Sagesse can get Jean Abdelnour then they have their 1,2 and 3 spots set. Also, if they sign with Matt Freije then they'll only need a good 5 and that's a team that can contend for the title and Asian Club Championships for sure.
Weclome back Illmatic,Matt freije is too weak and slow on position 4.Thats what a puertorican friend here told me (-k2-).
As per "Block Shot" the weekly basketball magazine,Sagesse finished negotiations with 3 local players from Lebanese roots.
Yesterday i was talking with a friend who works in Blue stars and he told me that Jean Abdelnour is going to renewed his contract with Blue stars,i dont know if its true.And as i heard,Mario Abboud is on his way to sign with Sagesse for next year.

Anybody know if LBC or any other channel will be broadcasting the exhibition games for the NT prior to the Olympic Qualifiers?

No idea yet,but i hope that.
If LBC didnt do the job,i hope any other channel will take the responsibility like OTV,FTV and the others.


Haven't had much time to post between university and work. Final exams coming up so I just wanted to post a few articles I typed out while I got some free time about 2 imports we had this year in the league, Kevin Johnson and Derrick Tarver, in case someone was interested.

Derrick tarver was the teammate of Maurice Bou kanaan if you remember him.Both have played with Akron NCAA division one.
I believe that Derrick technically is great,but as for a team he has destroyed everything,he was very selfish.

Just found it interesting that Bassel Bawji, who daniab has been updating us on, is also a Houston-area player (Lebanese of course) who will be playing for Tulsa. And Bassel's height and weight? 6-foot-8 inches, 225-pounds of course :eek: . Pretty similar to Kevin wouldn't you say :p

Yes,very similar to Kevin jonhson.Same height and weight :D
Bassel was hosted on FTV but we missed the interview unfortunately:(
Btw in houston,theres a Great Lebanese community in this area,too many lebanese players are graduating lately from there.
Till now,we have 5 players who plays at Houston.
 
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Nate jonhson officialy with Riyadi for 3 years according to Almustaqbal newspaper.

Source in arabic

Well,it seems that Riyadi is planning seriously to fix their mistakes.

Height: 199cm / 6'7''
Position: Forward
Born: 1977
Previous Team: Zain (Jordan) (2007-08)
Nationality: USA
Agency: Zucker International
 
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That's too bad about Matt Freije. I assumed that he got abit stronger since his college days. That would mean that he's a Brian Bechara-type player at the 3. Mario Abboud is a decent 4 but he's not too skilled on offense although Sagesse has enough scorers. I remember he had a game during the '07 season where had something like 17 pts 18 rbs and 5 blocks so he's definitely got potential. If Jean resigned with BS then Sagesse should look towards players at that position who aren't getting enough time with their current clubs like Jihad el Murr and Mazen Mneimneh.


Yes Derrick Tarver definitely wasn't a good fit for the team as we saw especially during the playoffs. He could've been great if he just played the role of facilitator more. There was one game where had about 10 assists and the team did great (I forgot against who). The Lebanese players alone made great runs against Riyadi while he and Waki Williams were on the bench.


I missed the interview with Bassel as well. Hopefully someone can upload it :confused:


The Nate Johnson signing at this stage doesn't seem to make much sense. Does that signal other changes within Riyadi? Where does that leave Ismail and Fadi? Will there be enough shots for all players since Fadi, Nate and Vogel are scorers. There has been alot of talk of problems within the players and admins in the club. I'm guessing that they would go with a lineup of:
Ali Mahmoud - Khatib - Johnson - Ismail - Vogel
but honestly that's a pretty slow lineup. They should find a way to put Rami Akiki at the 2 because he's really proven himself. They should look to replace someone in the frontcourt.

There's going to be alot of rumors this summer so I hope all teams come out better.
 
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I think riyadi here can make a wise move in trading players like :

Riyadi and Mouttahed: Since i believe that Vogel is not helping riyadi anymore in the int'l tournament as hes considered as a foreign,and they can use a better import.Why not to make a trade btw Riyadi an mouttahed,Roy Samaha for joe vogel and here they will gain a great local center + the opportunity to gain another good import along with Ismael Ahmad to form a great roster : Ali Mahmoud-Nate-Fadi-Ismael-Roy.
And i beleive that a type of player such Alpha Bangoura will be much more helpfull than Nate johnson with all due respect for the latter.

The second one btw Riyadi and Blue stars: Jean abdelnour for Vogel,and here also riyadi will gain one of the best lebanese player to form a roster of Ali Mahmoud-Jean Abdelnour-Fadi el khatib-Ismael and another good foreign center. Riyadi is being too slow and they need a type of quick players since most of their players are being too slow like Ismael Ahmad and Fadi el khatib lately.


And if this happen all the local teams will be winners,Blue stars is weak inside and if they trade jean abdelnour for Vogel,they will fix their problem since Tom ammar is going to sign with them next year.And mouttahed who will represent Lebanon for the first time in many int'l tournaments also will be ready as for the local players + good imports.
Riyadi must change their mentality,Vogel will not stay for 100 years anymore,hes 36 years and year after year hes going down.
Roy Samaha is really a very talented player and he prove that this year and i believe that Riyadi if they want to win the asian cup next year,they have to make some big changes not small one like signing with Nate.
This is the best solution for Riyadi to make a team ready to compete in the asian cup and not make changes before 1 week for the start of any tournament.
what do you think ?
 
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champville news

champville news

some news from champville team :

1-miguel martinez is the first choice to be a point guard for the team next year

2-anis feghali (ex-antonin player) may be the replacement of hassan lakkis

3-jarred marrel will definatly leave the team as he's too unprofessional and lazy on defense

4-champville team is searching for a new sponsor for the team in order to be able to get the players he wants...
 
Thanks Fouad-CV.

Some news from "block Shot":
-Sagesse passed half the way to sign with 3 players from Lebanese roots.
-Mouttahed is preparing a big surprise,one of the best lebanese descent player is going to play with Mouttahed next year.
-Sagesse will be the "dream team" next year,the president Georges chehwan passed half the way to sign with many local players.Also Sagesse ended the negotiations with 2 great foreigners.Sagesse will prepare a big festival to declare their team 2008-2009.
-Ghaleb Rida ended his contract with champville for this year and he might join Sagesse
 
dani about the interview of fadi on jaras...he said that this is the last summer he plays for the lebanese nt because he didn't spend one summer with his family and the time has come for him...he also said that since he didn't play enough games this year he changed his mind and decided 2 go back to the nt...plus he's definetly with the appointement of fouad abu cha2ra as a coach for the nt...that's it about the nt
 
zouz said:
dani about the interview of fadi on jaras...he said that this is the last summer he plays for the lebanese nt because he didn't spend one summer with his family and the time has come for him...he also said that since he didn't play enough games this year he changed his mind and decided 2 go back to the nt...plus he's definetly with the appointement of fouad abu cha2ra as a coach for the nt...that's it about the nt

Thanks Zouz.
El khatib is very young to retire and these excuses are being too childish.
 
daniab said:
Khalid.
Did el khatib said anything about the NT ??? i couldnt watch all the interview.
I would be thankfull if you summarize what he said aout the National team.

Yo Daniab!
What Zouz said is true.
Khatib originally stated that he has retired from the National Team after they lost from Iran in the Olympic Qualifiers but he has reconsidered playing for the National Team just for this year since he hasn't played many games after he left Cherkasy and playing with Riyadi in only international tournaments.
As for whether he will play with the National Team after this summer, he said that he hasn't made up his mind yet. Khatib had previously indicated that he wants to leave the National Team so that he would leave room for the younger generation (I personally don't agree with this since Khatib is currently in his prime years and he still has at least another 5 years which he could help the National Team).
 
Khalid80 said:
Yo Daniab!
What Zouz said is true.
Khatib originally stated that he has retired from the National Team after they lost from Iran in the Olympic Qualifiers but he has reconsidered playing for the National Team just for this year since he hasn't played many games after he left Cherkasy and playing with Riyadi in only international tournaments.
As for whether he will play with the National Team after this summer, he said that he hasn't made up his mind yet. Khatib had previously indicated that he wants to leave the National Team so that he would leave room for the younger generation (I personally don't agree with this since Khatib is currently in his prime years and he still has at least another 5 years which he could help the National Team).

Thank you khalid
I hope this decision will be reconsidered by El khatib soon.He still 29 years,he can give at least 4 or 5 years,he can use it to help the young figures in the National Team such Mazen Mneimneh.
 
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Nothing marks a good personal season more than a successful team goal.

And this was definitely the case for the Mouttahed boys.

Alain Boustani improved greatly from the previous season, posting 5.5ppg (51.1% FGs), 4.3rpg, 3.2apg in 19mpg.

As for Roy Samaha, he too showed big improvement this year, leading his team in blocks (24), and was second in rebounds (7.7rpg). In addition, he contributed 9.9ppg, making 51.7% of his field goal attempts.

“This year I got the role I deserved,” Samaha explained. “I was given responsibilities and I came through. To show your potential you need to play… you can’t improve or help your team while you’re on the bench.”

Having a good season was good, but it cannot compare to the success Al Mouttahed enjoyed this year.

“Al Mouttahed is a young and inexperienced team, so the pre-season goal was the Final Four. But we exceeded all expectations and reached the Finals,” Boustani said. “It was great especially for me because it was the first time I reach the Finals.”

“It was a great season for me on the personal level,” said Samaha. “And as a team, we were just a step away from perfect (perfect being winning the championship). We created a great image for ourselves and for the north.”

Touted as the new powerhouse in Lebanese basketball, league juniors Al Mouttahed started their journey to the Finals with big success.

Ending the regular season with 11 wins and 3 losses, they met seventh seeds Antranik and swept them 3-0 with no trouble at all.

Next in line was the former champion, Sagesse.

Al Mouttahed tipped off the Final Four series with two straight wins before dropping two games. With a strong showing in Game 5 at home, Al Mouttahed ousted Sagesse and secured the Finals berth for the first time in team history.

Down 0-1 in the finals, Al Mouttahed fought back and evened the series 1-1. The Tripoli team, however, dropped two straight games, handing Al Riyadi the championship.

“We could have done a better job in the finals especially in the fourth game, but little mistakes and lack of experience blocked our way.”

Brian Beshara too shares Boustani his confidence in Al Mouttahed's ability to beat Al Riyadi.

“I am not satisfied at all to be honest,” Beshara said. “Yes we had a good season with a lot of great wins and memories to reflect on, but in the end we fell one step short.”

Beshara played for Al Mouttahed on a part-time basis this season. In 15 games, he averaged 11.7ppg, 7.0rpg and 2.3apg.

“[Playing part-time] was not perfect of course,” Beshara admitted. “But in the end it proved to be a very wise move and the positives outweigh any negatives by a pretty overwhelming margin I think.”

After a one week rest, Beshara and Samaha joined the Lebanese national team for several events this summer, while Boustani took a few weeks off to rest before resuming practices.
 
Omar El Turk: Lebanese Basketball Player and proud!


Omar El Turk, one of Lebanon’s most promising Basketball Players, has shown great style and amazing performances in his game lately as a part of the Lebanese Basketball national team and as a main player in the Riyadi Club first team. He is known for his devotion and love for the game but most of all his love for his country Lebanon!




iloubnan.info: Tell us the story: how did you become a basketball player?

Omar El Turk : Well, my grandfather from my mother's side and almost his entire family used to play basketball so I guess I grew up in that atmosphere. In my nature, I am a very competitive person and I’ve always enjoyed contributing into something. In this case it would be being part of a team. Team sports have always been my target.
It all started when I was still in school around the age of 13.I was picked to be on the varsity team and I was the youngest. Wasn’t the tallest or the most athletic kid but I worked so hard to prove myself everyday and that was the challenge that I fell in love with. Basketball is my life till this present day.

Who was your inspiration? (Which player? international or local)
My inspiration would definitely be Michael Jordan. I used to watch his tapes almost everyday just to see if I could grasp something from it.

When did you start playing for the National team?
I started playing for the national team about 3 years ago.

Which was the best basketball game of your life? Which was the worst?
I don't think I’ve had a best basketball game. I love basketball so much that to me every single game is the best. I’ve had plenty of bad performances but my worst was against Al-Jalaa in the semi finals at The Dubai tournament 2007 season.

What are the main characteristics of a successful Basketball player?
Well there are many characteristics that every young and old basketball player should have. The main ones would probably be: The ability to listen and learn, Team spirit, Mental and Physical toughness, Hard Work and lots and lots of Heart.

What do Lebanese Basketball players need to be successful outside of the country?
Many Lebanese basketball players have the potential to play outside but I think the main reason would be lack of size, athleticism and Experience. Of course, compared to the higher level basketball countries.

What is your highest score in one game?
The highest scoring game I’ve had was 40 points in college against our rivals and we won that game which was more important.

Did you receive any offers to play outside the country? Where?
I’ve had a couple of teams interested in me playing outside but nothing too serious. Plus even if it was to be serious, I wouldn't want to play anywhere else but here amongst my family in Lebanon.

Do you see any future for Lebanese Basketball?
I see GREAT future in our basketball but we can’t sit down and just talk about our past achievements to the whole world. We need to work harder than everyone else in order to achieve our goals. I believe in Lebanese Basketball.

http://www.iloubnan.info/sports/interview/id/246
 
Akiki Lifts Second Ring With Al Riyadi

Date: Jun 23, 2008

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Championships aren’t something that one can get a hold of every year. And there is no doubt that having two in a row is an achievement for any player.

“We bounced back from two losses in the Arab and the Asian championships to come back and win the most important championship, the Lebanese championship,” said Ramy Akiki, Al Riyadi’s shooting guard. “It’s my second with Al Riyadi… a great achievement for me.”

Al Riyadi won the Lebanese championship for the fourth consecutive year, beating newcomers Al Mouttahed 3-1.

But things weren’t as rosy for the title holders.

Al Riyadi lost its dominance this year with the emergence of a new team, Al Mouttahed, and the comeback of an older foe, former champion, Sagesse.

“Winning for a long period of time may cause the team to relax and somehow lose motivation,” Akiki explained. “I believe these reasons are what made Al Riyadi lose some of its dominance.”

Still, Al Riyadi won 23 games out of 24, dropping the only one away at Al Mouttahed in the finals.

Akiki had a role to play in his team’s success this season.

However, once more this year, the 25-year-old guard had to come off the bench. He did that gracefully, spurring Al Riyadi with 9.2ppg, 4.3ppg and 3.5apg in 19mpg in the regular season and leading the team in the number of 3-pointers made (20) in minutes played (193).

“At the beginning of the season I was injured and it took me a while to get back in shape. At first, I wasn't getting the role that I sought but as the season went on, I started getting a bigger role.”

Akiki proved his worth, raising his numbers to 11.3ppg in the playoffs.

The free agent ended the season with yet another ring and with the hope of a third one next year.

“I want to have a major role in whichever team I sign with, definitely a team that will aim for a championship and dedicated to winning it,” Akiki said. “A major role with more minutes on a losing team means nothing without winning games.”

http://www.pma-basketball.com/newsdetail.asp?newid=192
 
Highland Park-ex had it good ... until the first bomb hit

09:41 AM CDT on Friday, August 4, 2006

From his apartment in Jounieh, a few miles up the coast from Beirut, Brian Beshara has views from two balconies. Take your choice. Mountains frame one. The other looks out over the blue-green Mediterranean.

Beshara didn't mean to stay so long. Growing up in Highland Park, he had no idea what it was like. Even had relatives in Lebanon, but he'd never been there.

Coming out of LSU, still wanting to play pro ball, he ended up in the Lebanese league as a home player because of his lineage. Money was good. So was the competition. Scotty Thurman of Arkansas played there. Ace Custis, Willie Burton, Cedric Henderson, too.

Next thing Beshara knows, a year becomes two, and two becomes five.

But what's the hurry? Life's good in Lebanon, and the view's better.

And then last week he's watching TV in his apartment and talking to his girlfriend back home, and the phone goes dead.

A minute passes. An explosion rips the silence, and then another and another. Beshara runs to his balcony – the one overlooking the water – and sees two Israeli helicopters hovering over a burning radar installation not more than 500 yards away.

I was looking at it," Beshara says by phone, "and yet I'm trying to stay away from the windows in case anything ricocheted."

He's been trying to stay out of harm's way ever since. His team, too.

As the Israel-Hezbollah war swallows Lebanon whole, the country's national basketball team has taken it on the lam.

In just a couple of weeks, the players will be in Japan, where they've qualified for the World Championship Aug. 19.

Until then, they're on the move. First came a 13-hour ride on a tiny bus from Lebanon through Syria and into Jordan to get out of the way of the war. Next they flew to Turkey, and now they're playing in a tournament in Slovenia.

On the phone from Turkey this week, Beshara sounded tired after all the travel and another long day of practice.

Tired and still a little shocked, maybe.

"Nobody expected anything like this," he says. "There's always been a little underlying tension here, but you don't see the oppression you do in a lot of Middle Eastern countries. It's open, free, fun.

"You can do anything there."

Or at least you could until the airstrikes started last month. First it was in the south, where Hezbollah forces are concentrated. Now the war eats its way north, into villages and resorts and countryside, making no distinction as to its victims wherever it goes.

Imagine Beshara's perspective.

Until three weeks ago, he's a 28-year-old basketball player living it up in a land where his only real problems are the language and league officials.

They aren't big on sticking to schedules. He's played on three teams, and it's always the same.

The 30-game regular season was supposed to end April 17. Only, the checks stopped. After the team quit paying him, Beshara left it before the finals.

But he remains a member of the national team. A 6-8 forward with good perimeter skills, he's a key player on a team that finished second only to China and Yao Ming in the Asian bracket.

Funny how life works out. Had it not been for the World Games, he'd probably be back in Dallas now. Or maybe with his girlfriend, a lawyer in Baton Rouge.

He didn't need basketball. An honors graduate, he could have moved on like the rest of his friends from high school and college. But he wanted one more shot. And it's been good. He probably makes as much money as any of his pals. But they're building careers. When he finally gives up basketball, he'll have to start over.

Even before the war, he was thinking about leaving Lebanon. Maybe Europe or the developmental league back home, anything to get a shot at the NBA.

"My window," he says, "is getting smaller."

He put aside his personal goals for the World Games. Family members back home were excited, too.

Imagine their perspective.

"We're waiting for the World Games," says Tony Beshara, Brian's father, "and suddenly they're bombing Lebanon!"

Tony didn't see this coming from Dallas. He was glad the second of his four boys returned to his grandfather's country. Glad to see him make connections with relatives and experience other cultures.

"He's seen the world," Tony says.

Maybe too much now?

"He's seen the other side of it, that's for sure."

Hard to tell. Brian still has trouble reconciling it all. His timing probably didn't help. Lebanon's 15-year civil war had been over more than a decade when he got out of LSU. Had he grown up there, maybe it'd have been different.

And his take now? Calls Lebanon "too volatile" and says he probably won't go back to Jounieh. Not any time soon, anyway.

"I know if there's a peace agreement, I wouldn't have a problem going back," he says. "But my family would be worried."

He thinks a moment.

"My family is worried about me," he says, "and the Lebanese players are worried about their families."

And the basketball team moves on down the road.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...on/stories/080406dnsposherrington.e1d91b.html

I stumbled upon this article today...I didn't know that Brian is also a lawyer!:eek:
 
This article really express the situation very well,and how our NT left Lebanon to Japan for the WC 2006 under the siege.
Its not easy to be Lebanese!:D ;)
 
PMA’s Jarred Merrill and Allan Fall are two of the 204 players scheduled to attend the KBL Pre-Draft tryouts in Las Vegas, USA.

After initial screening, only 204 players out of 500-plus applicants will get the chance to tryout for a Korean team for the 2008-2009 season.

Tryouts are set over three days: July 17, 18 and 19. The actual draft starts at 2:30p.m., July 19, 2008.

Merrill and Fall are among the chosen few to be present at the tryouts.

Merrill has been training hard this summer and is ready to get his chance at the Draft.

“A lot of guys want to play in Korea,” Merrill said. “It would be a good stepping stone for my career.”

Merrill is a 6’9” forward from the United States. He has played collegiately at Oklahoma Christian (NAIA) and professionally in Spain, Luxembourg, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.

Fall is a 6’1” guard from France. He attended college at John Jay College (NCAA-II) and has since played in France, Spain, Belgium and Iceland.

www.pma-basketball.com

i really hate this player,very selfish and lazy on defense.
 
Ali Mahmoud - Khatib - Johnson - Ismail - Vogel
but honestly that's a pretty slow lineup. They should find a way to put Rami Akiki at the 2 because he's really proven himself. They should look to replace someone in the frontcourt.


i agree, its really slow.
they must put omar on the 2 spot, fadi on the 3. Forget abt nate and get a Center. Vogel is old, keep him as a backup since guys like tawbe might be leaving the team


btw, im new here. Can u guys help me? how do i quote some1 and reply to a specific paragraph like u do
 
Khalid/Dani, I found this at Asia-basket.com:

Federation Decisions - Sep 17, 2008 (by Hassan Thini)

The general committee of the lebanese basketball federation held an
exceptional meeting on Tuesday ,September 16th, in the presence of the majority of the federation members.
After discussing the scheduled points, they took the following decisions:
1- Approving both the financial and the administral announcements presented by the general secretary and distributing them
to the generalcommittee to discuss them later in order to be approved.
2- Allowing two foreign players to play for every premeire league team under the condition that one of the players most have not played for his national team to maintain the chance of giving him the Lebanese nationality. The federation promised to provide each club with fifteen thousnad dollars during the season to help n this process.
3- Nicely demanding every premeire league team to form under seventeen & under fifteen men teams; and the federation will contibute by
six thousand dollas every year.
4- Signing a sponsorship contract with the Lebanese Emirates Bank for seventy five thousnad dollars.
5- Launching the premeire league championship for men for the season 08,09 on October 1st .

I would just like to ask what happens to the following players:

* Avakian Yervant 184 G 79 Antranik (Div.A)
* Deryeghyayian David 187 F 79 Sagesse (Div.A)
* Eskedjian Vicken 193 G/F 72 Antranik (Div.A)
* Loshkhajian Hovsep 184 G 77 Antranik (Div.A)
* El Turk Omar 186 G 81 Al Riyadi (Div.A)
* Mahmoud Ali 182 G 83 Al Riyadi (Div.A)
* Samaha Roy 205 F/C 84 Moutahed (Div.A)
* Beshara-Feghali Brian 204 F 77 Moutahed (Div.A)
* Khoury Sabah 196 G 82 Sagesse (Div.A)
* Vogel Joe 211 C 73 Al Riyadi (Div.A)

Are they all considered locals already. If that's the case, what happens if based on the above Point no. 2 that the 2nd foreign player of a team is granted Lebanese Nationality then the next year he is a local.

Are there any complaints from teams because of this rule even if technically there are only 2 foreign player per team the allowing of naturalized players to play as a local might result in some teams actually having more than 2 foreign players. And is there also complaints from locally-bred Lebanese players where-in they would say that in time these foreign players would actually be taking their slots in the teams as locals.

Am asking because I was thinking if this formula of the Lebanese Federation could be actually applicable to ours. But I do see probable complaints by the teams and by the locally-bred players. I do understand their point of view. Maybe you can share what are the actual sentiments there in Lebanon.
 
nardy said:
Khalid/Dani, I found this at Asia-basket.com:



I would just like to ask what happens to the following players:

* Avakian Yervant 184 G 79 Antranik (Div.A)
* Deryeghyayian David 187 F 79 Sagesse (Div.A)
* Eskedjian Vicken 193 G/F 72 Antranik (Div.A)
* Loshkhajian Hovsep 184 G 77 Antranik (Div.A)
* El Turk Omar 186 G 81 Al Riyadi (Div.A)
* Mahmoud Ali 182 G 83 Al Riyadi (Div.A)
* Samaha Roy 205 F/C 84 Moutahed (Div.A)
* Beshara-Feghali Brian 204 F 77 Moutahed (Div.A)
* Khoury Sabah 196 G 82 Sagesse (Div.A)
* Vogel Joe 211 C 73 Al Riyadi (Div.A)

Are they all considered locals already. If that's the case, what happens if based on the above Point no. 2 that the 2nd foreign player of a team is granted Lebanese Nationality then the next year he is a local.

Are there any complaints from teams because of this rule even if technically there are only 2 foreign player per team the allowing of naturalized players to play as a local might result in some teams actually having more than 2 foreign players. And is there also complaints from locally-bred Lebanese players where-in they would say that in time these foreign players would actually be taking their slots in the teams as locals.

Am asking because I was thinking if this formula of the Lebanese Federation could be actually applicable to ours. But I do see probable complaints by the teams and by the locally-bred players. I do understand their point of view. Maybe you can share what are the actual sentiments there in Lebanon.


these players are Lebanese. the new rule # 2 is making teams have 1 (of the 2 foreigners) with certain characteristics, didnt play for his NT already, under 23 yrs old, 200cm or above. This way the FLBB will have a pool of players to pick 1 of them for naturalizing.

The complaints from teams are because lets they already have a good foreigner thats above 23 and they want to keep and based on this rule, the 2nd import should be 23 and under, 200cm and above....but as a team they need some1 that doesnt fit this criteria
 
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