Group F, Day 4: Turkey-Spain
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ataman5
Member
I look your prediction and comment ,and İt afraids me. I can clearly say it is better for you to join that group to learn stg
what is stg Yo? i am a rookie here. are you one of bush-like people who call greeks grecians?
ozziem
Member
I think shuttup_ozziem must care fedfan. tHİS WİLL be more logical than ask her about her photo..
ArkadiosV2
Active member
ozziem you are a perfect gentleman, I give you that. My hat off to you sire.
ozziem
Member
I really confused.
How can you conclude this from my post? May be physicology, you are superior.
I really can't understand....I really wonder how can you conclude this. I really wonder.
ok i must admit. i am sure ozziem gained lots of exprience about girls by watching efes girls for years.
but there is one thing ozziem doesn't know. Fedfan already sent me her photo. she is a big beautiful muscular black greek girl.
sympathy with ArkadiosV2
Fedfan
Active member
awwww you're very nice ozzie.
But ppl who say ozzie shut up and not understand ozzie,I don't like.
ozziem
Member
There will be Efes girls election in next week and Efes boss Tuncay Özilhan insist me on being in the jury
so I have to watch them...awwww you're very nice ozzie.
But ppl who say ozzie shut up and not understand ozzie,I don't like.
you know Fedfan, it is easy break hearts but it ain't that easy to make friends. You already broke my heart once. I am not going to let you do it twice. I am leaving.
So long people...
PS me no like big black grecian girls.
ozziem
Member
awwww you're very nice ozzie.
But ppl who say ozzie shut up and not understand ozzie,I don't like.
Im confused which ozzie is me in this sentence?
I can't understand "black girl"
You say this in all time. I see that she sends you Serena Williams photo.There will be Efes girls election in next week and Efes boss Tuncay Özilhan insist me on being in the jury
stop crying. I didn't leave yet.
Holy molly !! why didn't you say that before man!! OK. I will push my limits to be a better friend of yours ozziem.
ozziem
Member
Now Welcome new boy!
I have good Greek friends in here but I have to say that to you:
Be careful about Greek loby. Don't ask question about this now , you will recognize day to day. I advise this all the new members of group. Again Welcome.
ip84
Active member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAu-J_a_jY
I uploaded the last offence of Spain when Llull got blocked.
Have more from this game and other games, but later.
I uploaded the last offence of Spain when Llull got blocked.
Have more from this game and other games, but later.
Levenspiel
Administrator
I watched the game live (exact same angle) and at first I thought Llull made the dunk. From despair to ecstasy in a second!
ip84
Active member
It's a pity to see so much hating and fanatical words instead of good comments on basketball.
Not many Spanish people come here because Spain is one of the European countries with the worst English level, but also because we have at acb.com one of the world top basketball forums (where you can find a lot of crap, but also excellent analysis).
The Spanish squad is playing really awful basketball. They have huge problems on defense, where there's not enough intensity, the defensive rotations are way below average (take Asik performance in the first half as example), and some of the best Spanish players are delivering there a dreadful level (Pau Gasol, for example).
The defensive struggles are limiting the Spanish ability to run the floor, where they find themselves more comfortable. But also Scariolo is a coach who prefers the set offense, and Spain is lacking the goods to make it work. Starting with the PG spot, where López and Cabezas look almost useless and Rubio isn't living up to the challenge (Scariolo is not designing good enough offense to take advantage of his abilities IMO).
Then you have Rudy Fernández and Navarro playing a lot of minutes together, which means a smaller and less physical line-up, while they don't really complement each other (one of them always plays bad).
Spain is also missing the spacing created by a shooting power forward, with Garbajosa in the downhill of his career. So there's little space for the low-post guys, right now the most effective Spanish weapons. And regardless, Pau Gasol is completely out of shape and Marc Gasol is lacking go-to character, as he's passing up too many low post opportunities where he has a clear advantage.
In general, there's less perimeter firepower than in previous championships. Spain would bury you with ridiculously long-ranged three pointers delivered by Calderón, Navarro, Rudy, Mumbru or Garbajosa. Now Calderón is not with the team and Rubio can't shoot, Garbajosa and Mumbru can't make them, so the shooting potential has decreased dramatically. Since Spain was a very happy shooting team with a relatively low elaboration of the plays, it's hurting them a lot.
And another thing as well: Spain is suffering a lot because of the refereeing style. The Spanish team is kind of soft, and doesn't take well so many contacts, which are more allowed than in previous events. I'm not complaining: it's just a different style that doesn't suit the current Spanish brand of basketball.
Not many Spanish people come here because Spain is one of the European countries with the worst English level, but also because we have at acb.com one of the world top basketball forums (where you can find a lot of crap, but also excellent analysis).
The Spanish squad is playing really awful basketball. They have huge problems on defense, where there's not enough intensity, the defensive rotations are way below average (take Asik performance in the first half as example), and some of the best Spanish players are delivering there a dreadful level (Pau Gasol, for example).
The defensive struggles are limiting the Spanish ability to run the floor, where they find themselves more comfortable. But also Scariolo is a coach who prefers the set offense, and Spain is lacking the goods to make it work. Starting with the PG spot, where López and Cabezas look almost useless and Rubio isn't living up to the challenge (Scariolo is not designing good enough offense to take advantage of his abilities IMO).
Then you have Rudy Fernández and Navarro playing a lot of minutes together, which means a smaller and less physical line-up, while they don't really complement each other (one of them always plays bad).
Spain is also missing the spacing created by a shooting power forward, with Garbajosa in the downhill of his career. So there's little space for the low-post guys, right now the most effective Spanish weapons. And regardless, Pau Gasol is completely out of shape and Marc Gasol is lacking go-to character, as he's passing up too many low post opportunities where he has a clear advantage.
In general, there's less perimeter firepower than in previous championships. Spain would bury you with ridiculously long-ranged three pointers delivered by Calderón, Navarro, Rudy, Mumbru or Garbajosa. Now Calderón is not with the team and Rubio can't shoot, Garbajosa and Mumbru can't make them, so the shooting potential has decreased dramatically. Since Spain was a very happy shooting team with a relatively low elaboration of the plays, it's hurting them a lot.
And another thing as well: Spain is suffering a lot because of the refereeing style. The Spanish team is kind of soft, and doesn't take well so many contacts, which are more allowed than in previous events. I'm not complaining: it's just a different style that doesn't suit the current Spanish brand of basketball.
gravity
Member
Very sad for you.
Also, referees very bad, the last play they call a flagrant foul (!!) WTF !
wich obviously was not
You can right in another reality of dimension. If Everybody spanish in there
Your player exactly banged his hands on our player's hands and then he tried to hold him for prevent his jump. This is a flagrant foul in every basketball match. (maybe spain have another rule in there. but this isnt bull wrestling. it's a basketball)
Yes, clear block by a center against a arrogant player... He must be crazy or he wanted to be MJ. Nobody can jump on 2 centers (yes 2 centers in five) and 1 PF on the world.
Everybody accept this. Without your 3pt shots, score can be 63-48 or something like this.
Turkey is play good. Basketball isn't only score game. And Turkey always one of the best defander and traditional defander on the Europe (example Efes)..
so, Turkey played perfect defence against best 12 player of tournament
(somebody said that in this forum)