Greg Slaughter...
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Big Ticket
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Dear all, players who begged off d pool like James,Marcio,Greg CANNOT be in Asian Games anymore as they’re not in d 24-man roster submitted
Dear all, players who begged off d pool like James,Marcio,Greg CANNOT be in Asian Games anymore as they’re not in d 24-man roster submitted
digitalsuperman
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i think at that time the hagop rule wasn't in full effect and we had the backing of fiba hq. now is a different story.OCA has their own rules. disregard all the eligibility you know before. thats the past already.
Sam (a.k.a.) Tuwid
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Nobody seem to want to give Greg Slaughter due credit.
The guy is a graduate of Ateneo De Manila University, one of the most prestigious University in the country, and after he hangs up his sneakers, he has been quoted by a number of dailies as gearing up to seek further advancement in his education at the Harvard School of Law.
I'd give him a listen, with the stuff that he expresses openly as endeavors that he wants to pursue and if he says that he is eligible to suit up for the national colors, I'd give him the benefit of a doubt as I would with anyone with even a fraction of his brain to go with the intent, seriousness, and sensibilities involved...
Come on people, this guy with his background and all, should know what he is talkin' about. No need to look elsewhere as to his eligibility status at present, except from the person himself. He's an adult with better than average stock, so why so many nagging questions mushrooming everywhere and to some, even bordering on ridiculous.
Give the man his due, I'd be the first one to rejoice seeing him suited up back again with the National Jersey of Gilas alongside Fajardo and Aguilar. After all, these three are the real cornerstones of Philippine basketball at present.
A refreshing scenario long overdue since last year, should have shelved on the side the very tired, rehashed for the umpteenth time... but ever reliable storyline, Chot and Jimmy show.
Had we done so, there wouldn't have been any reason why the swagger of our Asian neighbors should remain... they should have disappeared instantaneously as a consequence.
I see parity for us achieved so easily and conveniently, instead, we had the Chot and Jimmy show which will now soon cease to exist, heaven please be merciful, after the Asian games, finally.
Oh well!.........The things the country need to relive, so that a few resume's add on some more significant glitter! It's ok, as a nation, we always pay respect even at times misplaced like this one.
Tie 'em sneakers and jersey up Greg... call of duty.
The progress of Philippine basketball is ensured... should take off a little more pronounced from now on! Expect it.
The guy is a graduate of Ateneo De Manila University, one of the most prestigious University in the country, and after he hangs up his sneakers, he has been quoted by a number of dailies as gearing up to seek further advancement in his education at the Harvard School of Law.
I'd give him a listen, with the stuff that he expresses openly as endeavors that he wants to pursue and if he says that he is eligible to suit up for the national colors, I'd give him the benefit of a doubt as I would with anyone with even a fraction of his brain to go with the intent, seriousness, and sensibilities involved...
Come on people, this guy with his background and all, should know what he is talkin' about. No need to look elsewhere as to his eligibility status at present, except from the person himself. He's an adult with better than average stock, so why so many nagging questions mushrooming everywhere and to some, even bordering on ridiculous.
Give the man his due, I'd be the first one to rejoice seeing him suited up back again with the National Jersey of Gilas alongside Fajardo and Aguilar. After all, these three are the real cornerstones of Philippine basketball at present.
A refreshing scenario long overdue since last year, should have shelved on the side the very tired, rehashed for the umpteenth time... but ever reliable storyline, Chot and Jimmy show.
Had we done so, there wouldn't have been any reason why the swagger of our Asian neighbors should remain... they should have disappeared instantaneously as a consequence.
I see parity for us achieved so easily and conveniently, instead, we had the Chot and Jimmy show which will now soon cease to exist, heaven please be merciful, after the Asian games, finally.
Oh well!.........The things the country need to relive, so that a few resume's add on some more significant glitter! It's ok, as a nation, we always pay respect even at times misplaced like this one.
Tie 'em sneakers and jersey up Greg... call of duty.
The progress of Philippine basketball is ensured... should take off a little more pronounced from now on! Expect it.
Interestingly Chot uses the word "begged off"... I do see Greg is a must in NT and I believe he can qualify to 2019.
Bros.. I think Greg is still eligible since from the very beginning he is a Filipino citizen, that is, it is based on our existing laws ... Right? .. even if Greg's Mother, the former Ms. Fuentes is an American citizen, still he is entitled of Filipino citizenship because Greg's grandparents on the mother side are Filipinos... similar to Gabe Norwood .... If Hagop's rule is to be imposed, then SBP can intervene by writing to FIBA about our Citizenship laws and regulation, which recognizes Fil-foreigners since birth.... a Filipino birth right... I don't think that he has to show a Filipino passport that was issued to him before his 16 years of age. ... Recognition based on our laws is more than sufficient.... Take note that our laws are recognized by the UN...
If they (FIBA or Other sport bodies) think that Hagop rule prevails then we should elevate the issue to the Court of Arbitration (for Sports) on the basis that Philippines' (a country recognized by UN) Citizenship Law, that is consistent with its Constitution, should be given more weight over the Hagop Rule.
durden_tyler
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Of course he can't call them traitors. Not publicly.
durden_tyler
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Supposedly there are some technical issues so until we see him actually cleared and actually playing, it's a 50-50 situation.
budz17
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Agree. Until we see him in a gilas jersey in a sanctioned fiba tournament we won't really be sure.
apiSigbinz
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would Greg be under hagop rule? how about Lassiter? or the rule is not retroactive?
for me the three kings of Philippine Basketball are Junemar, Greg, and Japhet...
there is a fourth one... but that remains to be seen.
For me, the fourth one is either the one who would replace RDO (Aldrech Ramos, maybe?) in the SF spot or the PG spot (Barroca?)
Either way, I believe we will only be competitive for the 2-5 spot ranking in FIBA World Cup and or Olympics, if we get those people right, and to play right.
there is a fourth one... but that remains to be seen.
For me, the fourth one is either the one who would replace RDO (Aldrech Ramos, maybe?) in the SF spot or the PG spot (Barroca?)
Either way, I believe we will only be competitive for the 2-5 spot ranking in FIBA World Cup and or Olympics, if we get those people right, and to play right.
c_d
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Unfortunately, an athlete's basketball citizenship is determined by FIBA eligibility rules and not a country's constitution.
Unfortunately, an athlete's basketball citizenship is determined by FIBA eligibility rules and not a country's constitution.
If this is the case, then FIBA could possibly be contradicting there rules ... that is, taking the case of some Team USA players like Olajuwon, a Nigerian and an American born in Nigeria (see Wikipedia).
I think Greg's case is similar to Olajuwon.
c_d
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The case is similar in the manner that Greg can represent the Philippines in FIBA tournaments as a naturalized player, just like Olajuwon. Even if our constitution considers him a Filipino since birth, FIBA rules only recognize his Filipino citizenship as secondary to his American citizenship. As long as he did not get his Philippine passport before the age of 16, he is no different from a naturalized player which is only limited to one player per team.
As for players who claim that they have acquired that second nationality before the age of 16 but can not present a passport as proof, those cases require a decision of the FIBA Sec Gen (Baumann). Based on the criteria the Sec Gen will be using to come up with a decision, I don't think we will get a favorable one if we are to go that route since he only started playing here when he was already in college--after his sixteenth birthday.
c_d
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I think Tyler Tio, a Canadian passport holder (from what I read in another forum) who has been playing as a Filipino in our local leagues since his grade school days, is a case wherein FIBA will most likely make a decision in our favor-that is if he doesn't get his local passport anytime soon. I maybe wrong though. Greg, on the other hand, has no links to local basketball prior to his 16th bday.
GoPilipinas
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Greg played in 09 fiba asia champions cup as a local right? so like norwood and dillinger he is eligible because he already played before the 16 yrs old rule implemented....