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Garbajosa and Calderon: Spanish Raptors

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DanMajerle said:
What's all the stuff with Garbajosa and the surgery? Just some offended Raptors management because he palyed in Eurobasket, that now wants to demonstrate his power by wanting him to have a new surgery with their doctors or is it really necessary? What does Garbo say?

Last week Garbo said he was fine, but the Raptors have him on the injury list, indefinatly. They say his fractured fibula has not completely healed. Paul Gasol has openly critized the Raptors for punishing Gabo because of his determination to play at the Euro's.

I personally would have to think that the Raptors are looking out for Gabo's best interest. They're about winning games, having Gabo sitting out, is'nt helping their dispostion any. Lets hope that Gabo will be completely healed come playoff time, or at least for the Olympics.

I also think Gabo should of missed playing at the Euro's. Spain had allready qualified for the Olympics, and they had to cut an outstansing prsopect off the team in Victor Cleaver to make room for his return
 
Apparently Garbajosa visited the same doctor that Burstein had visited in Baltimore.

Dr Marc Mayerson from 'Mercy' medical center... things don't look good for him.
 
ArkadiosV2 said:
Apparently Garbajosa visited the same doctor that Burstein had visited in Baltimore.
That's a good conclusion. What came of that? Did Burstein have surgery?
 
mvblair said:
That's a good conclusion. What came of that? Did Burstein have surgery?

No. It is just that for someone to visit this doctor means that everybody else have raised their hands and there is nothing else that can be done.

This doctor is the ultimate solution for leg-related injuries and IF one HAS to visit him it means he is pretty deep shit in order to turn to him...
 
Well, to me, that looks like the key sentence:

"The [Eurobasket]policy expires Friday, so the Raptors are hoping the insurer will pick up a large chunk of Garbajosa's salary. It will almost certainly be the club's contention that Garbajosa has sustained further injury since the policy was purchased."

Calderon: "(Garbajosa) was dunking in the shootaround in Dallas (last week) before he knew about the injury," he said. "That's why everybody's surprised."

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/280151
 
They wanted him to have a second surgery since the summer, and right now (with a true reason or without it, i really dont know), they are gonna get it.

I just hope that things turn well finally for Garbo, 'cause there is no doubt now that this is gonna be a really bad season for him.
 
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Neozyrus said:
I just hope that things turn well finally for Garbo, 'cause there is no doubt now that this is gonna be a really bad season for him.
I think that I will give the benefit of the doubt to the doctors. It doesn't make sense that the Raptors would want Garbajosa to be injured, because they need him at forward. He's the only player with the muscle to defend other big forwards in the league; Bosh, Bargani, and Moon are so skinny. Anyhow, it looks like his season is finished. :(

But...Calderon had a great game against his Spanish NT brothers, scoring 13 points (6-12), and 10 rebounds in 33 minutes.

Man, he looks angry
Buddies
 
A note from the Toronto Sun
Jorge Garbajosa needs surgery that will end his season and that puts the Raptors in a no-win situation with the Spanish star and his fans -- November 29, 2007, Toronto Sun, by KEN FIDLIN andGEORGE GROSS

The Raptors news release was distributed about an hour before last night's game.

"Jorge Garbajosa completed an examination with Dr. Mark Myerson, of Baltimore, on Monday afternoon. Dr. Myerson's report concurs with the recommendation of the Toronto Raptors medical staff that Garbajosa's injury requires further surgery.

"No surgery date has been determined and no timing has been established for a return to basketball activity. Garbajosa will remain on the inactive list indefinitely."

.......Now he's inactive and the future course of events is uncertain. It's kind of sad, because there are no bad guys in this soap opera.

Garbajosa loses in a variety of ways. He is destined to lose an entire NBA season. Yes, he'll get his money, either from the Raptors directly or through the insurance policy but he never can get this year back. He's a warrior who wants only to play.

When he came to Toronto last season, he had signed a three-year contract, his first in North America. Last season, prior to his devastating injury, he had established himself as a player and brought a level of toughness, both mental and physical to the Raptors, valuable commodities in the pro game. By missing this season and with next year in some doubt, his next contract, either with Toronto or another NBA team (he'll be a restricted free agent) is probably going to be less lucrative.

But Garbajosa isn't about the money. He's about the playing and it kills him to sit, especially when he genuinely believes he's healthy.

The Raptors also are big losers. Their original reluctance to let Garbajosa play for Spain was based on the medical belief that the player needed further surgery to repair that badly broken leg. That belief has now been confirmed. If the surgery had occurred in the summer, Garbajosa conceivably could have been back playing, fully healthy, by the middle of this season.

Now the Raps have no idea when Garbajosa will be ready to play again. They can't force him to have surgery but they don't believe he's healthy enough to play....

To this point, according to sources, re is no deep-seated rift between Garbajosa and the Raptors. He still wants to play for them and they want the same thingough they want him in a healthy state.

For that to happen, he eventually will have to give in and accept that further surgery is necessary.
 
Toronto Sun also wrote that Spain won the Eurobasket...

Raptors want extra $3 millions from the Spanish Basketball Federation.
 
About Jorge, for sure you have to trust doctors, but still something stinks here, 'cause first of all, they said that he wasnt in good shape or physichal condition, then he was able to play really well in a game 26 min, and one week later, he's so injured that he needs another surgery (as they wanted in summer) but for other injury... i suppose is just a coincidence.

By the way, just as a curiosity, Calderon said that the injury of Garbajosa was told to the team during a training and just after Garbo having done a huge dunk over Bosh!! Its quite funny :p

There were images of Garbajosa, Gherardini and Colangelo talking together last week and it seemed a quite friendly conversation, so i assume that there are not hard feelings kept on anyone for all this situation.

In the meantime, Calderon continues proving that he can be the starting pg of many many teams of NBA. Yesterday he did another great game, with another double-double 11 points, 10 assists, (4 rebounds and even 1 block). But he had a tough time trying to defend Gibson.
He's right now the 11th is assists of the league and the 1st in the ratio assists-to's. He just finds almost always the guy that have an easy shot so easily.
 
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Calderon statements about his future:

"I dont think much about it (his situation next summer as a free agent), when the moments comes we will see what happens, but at the end, the raptors have the last word"
"I just live day by day, i dont think much about the summer. Still, thy can equalize all the offers that i had this summer, but right now, im a Raptor's player, and im really happy and relaxed here"
"I try to do my best in the minutes that i have and im happy about the good games that im doing. I just try to take advantage of what i have right now and i will try to keep this way"
"I try to improve every day and learn as much as i can from everybody, now im playing more cause Ford has beed injured and i try to be ready when the coach put me out there, but the truth is that each day i feel more and more confortable here."
"My success is my teamates' success; i feel really confortable with them on the court and the key point is that they trust in me in the games"
"I have coach and players' trust right now, in other case, everything would be much more complicated for me.
 
Another game as a starter and another double-double for him (his fourth in a row). He did 11 points (2/6 2p, 2/2 3p, 1/1 1p) and 10 assists, as well as 2 rebounds. Again a really good game for him directing the game, making some good shots and doing a great defense over Daniels.
Anyway the Raptors lost against Washington by 4 points : 101-97
 
Neozyrus said:
Another game as a starter and another double-double for him (his fourth in a row). He did 11 points (2/6 2p, 2/2 3p, 1/1 1p) and 10 assists, as well as 2 rebounds. Again a really good game for him directing the game, making some good shots and doing a great defense over Daniels.
Anyway the Raptors lost against Washington by 4 points : 101-97
He played even better in a Toronto victory against Charlotte: 12 points (6-11), 9 assists, and 7 rebounds

Lay-up past some defender
Lay-up past Jason Richardson
Driving around Ray Felton

Charlotte, by the way, is a pretty good team in my opinion. Yeah, they're 6-10, but they've played well in most of their games. I think Sam Vincent is turning out to be a pretty good coach, and they've got some solid young players on their team.
 
And another great game of Calderon as a starter : he did 14 points (4/6 2p, 2/3 3p), 9 assists and 3 rebounds, but he just had a too hard time trying to stop a great Steve Nash.
 
Dec 7 Calderon was back on the bench Friday night, backing up starter T.J. Ford.

Recommendation: Ford (arm) returned to the lineup after missing one game and played 21 minutes in Toronto's blowout loss to Boston.

O.k. now I admit, Mitchell is an idiot.. :rolleyes:
 
Idiot? He is a fucking imbecile! The guy has been producing a double double for the past week and in a game where you need to slow down the pace and use a PG who actually THINKS, or better who actually HAS A BRAIN, he uses him 14?!?!? minutes and lets his other guards shoot crazy 3points from 9 metres and run into fastbreaks amongst 4 defenders without any logic!

Of course I might be wrong and biased since I had Calderon in my fantasy teams and i'm damn pissed!!!

The IDIOT thought that he can outplay Celtics in run n gun in Boston...
 
Calderon a Modern Blogger from Old World – December 11, 2007, Canada.Com, by Joe O'Connor

……Calderon has been writing his observations down since the beginning of the 2007-08 NBA season, and posting them on his blog. He generates a new entry each week that appears on his personal website: www.josemanuelcalderon.com.

…. Calderon was a willing diarist [daily writer], for an undisclosed dollar figure, all of which was donated to charity. The response to his work among Spanish basketball fans was positive. And Calderon enjoyed the writing, and thought it would be a great idea to continue on as a Spanish correspondent in the NBA's only Canadian outpost.

"It is a big difference between (Spain) and here, and how we work, and how we are travelling," Calderon said. "I don't know what is the biggest difference. Everything is different. I try to write about practices, or the trips ... or how we can play four games in five days, or what I feel when we play against Memphis."

"Here, basketball is seen differently," writes Calderon in one entry. "It is like going to the cinema or theatre. Matches are around two hours of show and people treat it that way. They spend the day in the malls, have dinner in the restaurants of the stadium and, after, they come to the match ... they do not cheer as in Spain. There you feel the fans nearer, although in these stadiums there is always noise. Eighteen thousand people, even if they are only chatting, make a lot of noise."

….Each entry ends with his signature sign-off: "A hug and see you next week."

It is a predictable goodbye for a professional basketball player who refers to his teammates as his "friends."

…..His literary pick of the month is Christopher Paolini, a modern day J.R.R. Tolkien, and a New York Times best-selling author. Paolini's books fall under the fantasy genre.

"This one is a little complicated, because it is about dragons," Calderon says. "When I started reading in English I was like, 'OK, it is a lot of words that I can't understand.' " ….
Christopher Paolini? Really? Isn't Calderon 25-years-old or something?
 
Garbajosa's left knee has been operated.

Recovery time unknown. According to the surgeon who operated him he needs to rest his knee for at least 10 weeks.
 
A little something about JMC via interbasket's news page:

Not bad for a second-thought
When Roko Leni-Ukic decided to stay in Europe instead of taking the backup PG role for the Raptors, Toronto decided to go with a free-agent that was not well- known outside of the United States in Spaniard Jose Manuel Calderon (the funny thing is Ukic signed with Calderon’s European team!).

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Today, Calderon has done a great job in making people forget about Ukic. The 6-3 Calderon is doing a solid job his third season in Toronto by going for career highs in points (9.9), assists (7.6), rebounds (2.7), three-point percentage (45%), FT (91%), and is averaging the least amount of turnovers during his career (1.3). His overall FG% is off by less than a percentage point from last year’s high (52.1% to 51.4%). And Calderon is doing this in only 25 minutes a game (also a career-high) which looks to rise as TJ Ford took a frightening fall on his back last night that had him rushed to the hospital in a stretcher.

Stuart
 
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