Richey666 said:
Goga, there's no reason for us to argue, cause we clearly have different opinions about politeness and respect towards people.
Oh, really? As I said before, I wouldn't go to the airport in such a case and I wouldn't shout anything towards the opposing players that doesn't have to do with basketball. If some jerks have insulted one or otherp layer, their action deserves to be condemned. Everything else is perfectly okay.
Imagine when there'd been some Spanish fans screaming insults towards Maccabi players in Hebrew in Barcelona, it woulda made front pages everywhere in the world as terrible anti-semitic attack.
Wrong. You can attack anybody in the same style or you can make special cases, with pointing to the players' nationalities. One case is a regular insult, the second one is specifically racist or anti-semitic.
When Jewish extremist fans insult Spanish team members in Spanish, no-one cares except few people here.
Are you sure, only Jews can support Maccabi Tel-Aviv? Or do you think that Jews only are living in Israel? Israel's citizens are being called Israelis. This term should also be known in Estonia, right? No one calls you a Christian, A catholic, a Protestant or whatever. You are an Estonian, just as those fans are Israelis. They aren't extremists of any sort. Some of the behaved normally, some acted like jerks, shouting out insults, which is clearly wrong. The atmosphere created by this "greeting committee" was good enough without any insults.
That's what I call double standards. And you cant play this 36 years old tragedy card forever to justify your arrogance and demanding extra rights compared to everyone else in the world. That only creates more hate, in case you care what goys are thinking...
It wasn't the only case of Jewish/Israeli people or Jewish/Israeli institutions being victim of an attack. Before you are uttering such obvious nonsense, better hold your tongue. A permanent danger, which is actually being recognized as a danger by European governments and European states' police isn't a double standard but a sad reality. A few security men do not create any hatred. If they do so with you, then you have a real problem.
Saying that, I still fully like Maccabi team, fans like these are not enough to start cheering their losses.
It's your choice, whether to like or to dislike Maccabi. No one can prohibit you anything here.
This is NOT matter of freedom of speech, gimme a break. Annoying and insulting visitors at the airport is not "expressing your opinion".
It is very unprofessional to let provocative fans near visiting sports team.
Freedom of movement and freedom of speech are untouchable as long as they don't interfere with momentarily more important reasons. Before those guys came into the waiting room they were checked for anything they could have carried with them. Police was present anyway. So there was no risk for Barca's players at all. No one of them has understood it as sth. threatening. No need for your personal interpretations here. As to insulting players, we don't have two different opinions here. It is wrong and deserves to be condemned. But no policeman would ever drag you away for sth. like that, if you are not dreaking some order of a meeting or certain rules. Nothing like that has taken place here. The whole procedure took like 30 seconds and nobody took it personal on both sides with the exception of a few jerks there and you here. Before trying to talk to me about legal matters, better check your law code first.
Besides, stuff like that happens at most of sportive events, especially basketball and even more soccer. So, what do you want to do? Not let thousands of people into the stadium? It can get much worse. Fans can really insult or hurt players, getting very personal, mentioning their famiy, their nationality and so one. But what do you do in a case, where fans are booing and cursing a home team player? You still have different kinds of gradations here and what happened at the airport is normal not slightly out of norm.
