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Euroleague 2013-2014

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Roy M said:
As I read in the Twitter, Sofo may remain as well. tom the dead line.

According to the twitter, the qoal round will be in Moscow, at Khimki
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Yes ispossible since we are chasing one more greek.
Calathes is very hard to sign,vougioukas just didnt happen so most probably he will stay.
But we have 2 more places for foreigners.a center and a guard more probably
 
Yes, but I'm not sure if they want to pay a transfer fee to Red Star for 33 yrs old player.

And Covic won't let a guy who brought him Euroleague to go away for peanuts.
 
CG said:
Pao with half the team that will have this year and many many many problems almost disqualified barca
Barca and cska better to think different like you this year.
PAO is creating a very competitive roster.
You will see soon enough.be patient.
And we have said it 1000 times.never underestimate greek teams.you look
silly.afterall every season we go to the finals and lift the cups and not barca or cska..

And to show you that you are not objective barca need 5-6 transfers as a team and noone know this season roster.but you on the other half put them as big favorite.how someone can take you serious
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Dude u totally miss-unerstood me...
i was just replying to Red star fan who by natural arent objective never...
I wasnt undermestimating PAO, i love them, i cheer for them when Partizan is OUT, i put 100 euros on win against Barca last season...
Generally you cant say group is easiest one (just look at Olympiakos' group) with CSKA, Barca and Fener...probably best team in last few years (most constant, Barca)), usually one of best for many many years, third year in a row will be top favourite for win in EL - CSKA, and team who will have as it was said 4th budget in this season, with great Obradovic.
And beside that, Ukrainian team with 12m budget, and French Nantere. That cant be easiest group even if it wasnt Partizan...
 
Dule_Vujosevic said:
Dude u totally miss-unerstood me...
i was just replying to Red star fan who by natural arent objective never...
I wasnt undermestimating PAO, i love them, i cheer for them when Partizan is OUT, i put 100 euros on win against Barca last season...
Generally you cant say group is easiest one (just look at Olympiakos' group) with CSKA, Barca and Fener...probably best team in last few years (most constant, Barca)), usually one of best for many many years, third year in a row will be top favourite for win in EL - CSKA, and team who will have as it was said 4th budget in this season, with great Obradovic.
And beside that, Ukrainian team with 12m budget, and French Nantere. That cant be easiest group even if it wasnt Partizan...
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Ok thats fair i think
My mistake
Its not so important the first phase anyway
Its the first phase to get along and orgaised.
So from one point is difficult from another is best to get tough earlier.
 
AmonRA said:
Caja
? , ?
? , Hamilton
Nocioni, ?
? , Hanga
? , Hodge
Status of: Lampe, Pleis, Bjelica, San Emeterio, Causeur and Heurtel?
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hodge, ?
causeur, jelinek
nocioni, hanga
?, ?
pleiss, hamilton

hanga can plays as 2-3, hamilton can plays as 4-5.

nemanja will be transferred (barça, fenerbache?), san emeterio could go to valencia. I think that lampe and heurtel are going to leave the team. a big cleaning in vitoria, the coach and 5-6 players out.
 
G.Vainauskas: “Euroleague undermines the sport principle for commerce”

G.Vainauskas: “Euroleague undermines the sport principle for commerce”

http://bc.lrytas.lt/en/item/1049-gv...-undermines-the-sport-principle-for-commerce”

http://www.sportando.net/eng/cups/e...ermines-the-sport-principle-for-commerce.html


“Euroleague drifted more into commerce and undervalues the principles of sport,” – says the president of Lietuvos Rytas Vilnius basketball club Gedvydas Vainauskas.



The country ranking system, which is not always taken into account, the questionable wild card policy - these things are damaging the image of Euroleague. Even in the Annual Euroleague Assembly there were a lot of discussions on why the wild cards were granted to Budivelnyk Kiev, Strasbourg SIG and Bayern Munich.

“These clubs haven’t achieved anything in international basketball and in Ukraine, France and Germany basketball definitely is not the most popular sport. Therefore, Euroleague management’s arguments that these markets are very important do not seem very convincing,” – says Mr. Vainauskas. “Everything is much easier – clubs simply pay a certain amount and recieve wildcards to participate in Euroleague. Would it be possible to imagine this happening for example in football?”.

According to the president of BC Lietuvos Rytas, at times like these, when many countries suffer from the economic crisis, it is very important to follow the sports principle: “If everything relates only to money, the inequality between the clubs only increases”.

This year, Acea Rome, who was the Italian league finalist and was awarded with a B licence, refused a spot in Euroleague. According to the country ranking system the next spots after Italy were intended for two basketball countries – Turkey (Banvit Bandirma) and Lithuania (Lietuvos Rytas). However, Euroleague did not take this into account.

“In the past, Euroleague management emphasized that clubs participating in Euroleague have to match certain standards: play in big arenas, attract more fans to home games,” – states Mr. Vainauskas. “So far our club has played in Euroleague five seasons and has always been complimented for the level of organized events, basketball and teams accommodation infrastructure. However, lately to Euroleague these things seem to be secondary”.

G. Vainauskas thinks that an exam of Euroleague’s objectivity can be the selection of who will organize this year’s Euroleague Qualifying Tournament.

“We offered to host this tournament because Vilnius has a great arena, hotels and Lietuvos Rytas basketball club – experience, because we have already hosted the Euroleague Qualifying Tournament in 2011,” – says Mr. Vainauskas. “Euroleague definitely knows our arguments and capabilities. Therefore, it is truly interesting whether we can be objectively outrivaled by a city, where it is clear that the conditions for the participant clubs will be inferior, but Euroleague will be offered more money”.

G. Vainauskas does not doubt that Euroleague is a great sport and commercial project which has gained recognition throughout Europe, valued by the NBA. “But when sport principles are outweighed by commerce and subjectivity, Euroleague is threatened to destroy itself as a sports structure – loose the trust of participating clubs, supporters and sponsors,” – says the president of Lietuvos Rytas basketball club.
 
no way Euroleague will let our club (LR) host qualifying tournament after this :)
 
Probably Vainauskas already knows, that Banvit / Khimki pay more to get the tournament to Turkey / Russia? :rolleyes:
 
jonga said:
hodge, ?
causeur, jelinek
nocioni, hanga
?, ?
pleiss, hamilton

hanga can plays as 2-3, hamilton can plays as 4-5.

nemanja will be transferred (barça, fenerbache?), san emeterio could go to valencia. I think that lampe and heurtel are going to leave the team. a big cleaning in vitoria, the coach and 5-6 players out.
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How sure is Pleis, I heard that he might end up in Bayern...
 
AmonRA said:
How sure is Pleis, I heard that he might end up in Bayern...
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I think he has 3 years left on his contract in spain and no options in the contract for a move this season. I think after the next offseason there is an optin in the contract, but not this season!
 
Peace said:
http://bc.lrytas.lt/en/item/1049-gv...-undermines-the-sport-principle-for-commerce”

http://www.sportando.net/eng/cups/e...ermines-the-sport-principle-for-commerce.html


“Euroleague drifted more into commerce and undervalues the principles of sport,” – says the president of Lietuvos Rytas Vilnius basketball club Gedvydas Vainauskas.



The country ranking system, which is not always taken into account, the questionable wild card policy - these things are damaging the image of Euroleague. Even in the Annual Euroleague Assembly there were a lot of discussions on why the wild cards were granted to Budivelnyk Kiev, Strasbourg SIG and Bayern Munich.

“These clubs haven’t achieved anything in international basketball and in Ukraine, France and Germany basketball definitely is not the most popular sport. Therefore, Euroleague management’s arguments that these markets are very important do not seem very convincing,” – says Mr. Vainauskas. “Everything is much easier – clubs simply pay a certain amount and recieve wildcards to participate in Euroleague. Would it be possible to imagine this happening for example in football?”.

According to the president of BC Lietuvos Rytas, at times like these, when many countries suffer from the economic crisis, it is very important to follow the sports principle: “If everything relates only to money, the inequality between the clubs only increases”.

This year, Acea Rome, who was the Italian league finalist and was awarded with a B licence, refused a spot in Euroleague. According to the country ranking system the next spots after Italy were intended for two basketball countries – Turkey (Banvit Bandirma) and Lithuania (Lietuvos Rytas). However, Euroleague did not take this into account.

“In the past, Euroleague management emphasized that clubs participating in Euroleague have to match certain standards: play in big arenas, attract more fans to home games,” – states Mr. Vainauskas. “So far our club has played in Euroleague five seasons and has always been complimented for the level of organized events, basketball and teams accommodation infrastructure. However, lately to Euroleague these things seem to be secondary”.

G. Vainauskas thinks that an exam of Euroleague’s objectivity can be the selection of who will organize this year’s Euroleague Qualifying Tournament.

“We offered to host this tournament because Vilnius has a great arena, hotels and Lietuvos Rytas basketball club – experience, because we have already hosted the Euroleague Qualifying Tournament in 2011,” – says Mr. Vainauskas. “Euroleague definitely knows our arguments and capabilities. Therefore, it is truly interesting whether we can be objectively outrivaled by a city, where it is clear that the conditions for the participant clubs will be inferior, but Euroleague will be offered more money”.

G. Vainauskas does not doubt that Euroleague is a great sport and commercial project which has gained recognition throughout Europe, valued by the NBA. “But when sport principles are outweighed by commerce and subjectivity, Euroleague is threatened to destroy itself as a sports structure – loose the trust of participating clubs, supporters and sponsors,” – says the president of Lietuvos Rytas basketball club.
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he's right.

there is nothing else to be said.
 
What is the budget of Ritas? It seems that from every year they have worse and worse team...
 
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