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EL 2024/25 - Round 4

Jazz2

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Thursday 17th:

Alba Berlin - Fenerbahce
Maccabi - Partizan
Milano - Zalgiris
Bayern - Paris
Real Madrid - Panathinaikos

Friday 18th:

Monaco - Virtus Bologna
Efes - Olympiacos
Zvezda - Barcelona
Asvel - Baskonia​
 
Whenever Mitoglou takes a dribble from the 3pt line or takes 2pt long jump shot one kid in the Greece stops playing basketball.
 
Btw, have you noticed that Partizan are trying to revive 80s style shorts?

I think it's pretty funny when teams have shorts like that but then the players wear compression shorts that are twice as long :p
 
I have no idea how is this just +5 for Real. This was really bad from PAO
 
The only way i see Pao wining this game is Nunn MVP performance in second half, otherwise i think there is no chance for them to win this.
 
Pokuševski collecting blocks and Partizan
Is finally playing a good game in the 4th quarter.
 
Very, very bad...Sloukas had 4 horiffic games. He averages 4 points per game while shooting 20%. Nunn plays 1 vs 5. Lorenzo doesn't create for some reason. Mitoglou is Mitoglou. Osman not good. Yurtseven had the worst 4 minutes in the 2nd quarter today I have ever seen in my life. Only Lessort, Juancho, Papapetrou and maybe Grant are playing good. Now Fener away...luckily it's still early. Only home court matters at the end.
 
Milan is a completely unserious team. Messina should do everyone a favor and let someone else coach.
 
EA7 is a team that should play in Eurocup.
Every year is the same story with them.

Congrats to Zalgiris!
It will be hard to beat them this season.
 
13 minutes before the end Milano had +27 and they somehow lost hahahahahaha
 
How Milano success to lose this one??
Anyone watched?
They had like +30 or something when i checked score.
 
Armani and Messina - it's not even disgrace, i don't know what it is.
 
Very, very bad...Sloukas had 4 horiffic games. He averages 4 points per game while shooting 20%. Nunn plays 1 vs 5. Lorenzo doesn't create for some reason. Mitoglou is Mitoglou. Osman not good. Yurtseven had the worst 4 minutes in the 2nd quarter today I have ever seen in my life. Only Lessort, Juancho, Papapetrou and maybe Grant are playing good. Now Fener away...luckily it's still early. Only home court matters at the end.

I remember Sloukas having a very slow start last season although probably not quite this bad.​

Very, very bad...Sloukas had 4 horiffic games. He averages 4 points per game while shooting 20%. Nunn plays 1 vs 5. Lorenzo doesn't create for some reason. Mitoglou is Mitoglou. Osman not good. Yurtseven had the worst 4 minutes in the 2nd quarter today I have ever seen in my life. Only Lessort, Juancho, Papapetrou and maybe Grant are playing good. Now Fener away...luckily it's still early. Only home court matters at the end.

Ettore needs to sign a couple more PFs imo. :D
 
I remember Sloukas having a very slow start last season although probably not quite this bad.​



Ettore needs to sign a couple more PFs imo. :D

He did. But he still had about 11 points per game. This is just sooooooo bad. Our guards should be are biggest strength but they are not. Lorenzo and Sloukas are struggling and they need to be much better.
 
He did. But he still had about 11 points per game. This is just sooooooo bad. Our guards should be are biggest strength but they are not. Lorenzo and Sloukas are struggling and they need to be much better.

Brown does not work everywhere. I remember his time with FB and he gives me similar vibes in Athens. The roles are not clear in PAO. Thats should be the biggest problem. I saw evidences that PAO player werent sure how to play. Sloukas looks horrible but he is 36 and each year he will need more time to get in shape.

Defense timing, rotation, help side defense everything looks bad, I mean really bad.
 
Starting December we will see the true potential of Pao and many other teams. These games mean little.
I remember Pao used to loose away games almost all the time. Even last season. They started making runs by the end of the season.
Loosing to Real Madrid by a close margin in an away game is decent. Since when should we expect Pao to win every game?

Let us loose a couple of games. Even the fourth place is okey for me. The play offs are going to be a thriller either way.
 
A lot of mistakes by Ataman. Today we start badly and doesn't take time out in 1st quarter. The score was 17-5 before some subs contained the score. Sloukas is awful in offence and a massive hole in defense yet he plays him 23 mins. Musa at SG is killing us. Doesnt try Kalaitzakis to try contain him or even Cedi who is as fast but stronger. Mitoglou cannot follow any of RM's PF's They pass him like he's a traffic cone. Lessort doesnt get fed enough tonight. He plays Omer who is cancer on the eyes offensively missing under the basket because he's afraid of Tavares. He can't stretch the court to pull Tavarez out of the paint so we can drive in. In the EL final in the 4th quarter he sent Mitoglou to 5 and he buried two 3's and pulled Tavares out of the paint which allowed us to slash and score easily. He doesn't try this at all today.

Against Paris the other night Lorenzo was our best player with Lessort and he forgot him on the bench all 4th quarter so we can watch Hifi and Shorts walz passed Sloukas time and time again. Shorts is fast but he's a basketball midget at 1.75. We didn't target him once to post him with our taller guards who are over 1.90. I reallly don't get this. Zoc would punish such defensive liabilities and sub him out of the game. Both him and Hifi.

It's early yet but we are commiting suicide, especially insisting with Sloukas who is way out of form. Lorenzo didnt deserve what happend in Paris and certainly not playing again after 3 mins especially with how poor Sloukas is currently.

Mitoglou IMO cannot play at 4 anymore. The game has become faster and the power forwards are leaner with quick feet. We saw this several times last year against Oly with Petrousev killing Mitoglou because his awful lateral defence. Mitoglou should be pushed to C and play as a strech centre if he's against a taller man as he has a decent long and mid range shot. We must play Juancho and Cedi at 4 and that's final.

PS It's a shame Juancho massive games are going to waste. After 4 games he's our best and most consistent player.
 
How Milano success to lose this one??
Anyone watched?
They had like +30 or something when i checked score.

They had like 79:67 with only three minutes till the end of game, Zalgiris made three consecutive three point shots, and that was the end for Milano. They never really recovered after that, in the end they scored only three points vs. 18 points for Zalgiris in that last three minutes. :) Zalgiris made a history with that result, and Trinchieri was right about coaching in 1st half, that was obviously the problem. Now, we are 2nd in the standings after Red Star, that's great. Also, we have five games at home and two away games in Munich and Paris, that's a great schedule. I hope that Francisco is OK, that fall after foul from LeDay was serious. :(
 
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