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Bigger Samboy will be first Pinoy in NBA according to spurs assistant

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si Chip Engelland ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized, hindi si EJ Feihl

si Chip Engelland ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized, hindi si EJ Feihl

bolabasket said:
EJ Fiehl was born in RP to German Father and Filipina mother....no naturalization needed.

di mo ako nagets pre..

yun Asst. Coach ng Spurs, na si Chip Engellandang, ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized o import nun naglaro siya sa Jones Cup since I quoted his statement na tinatago pa rin daw nya un Jersey niya na San Miguel nung tinalo nila ang Team USA sa Jones Cup.

"I’ll never give up the San Miguel uniform I wore when we beat the US for the Jones Cup championship in 1985."

gets? pero malamang import siya nun since legal naman sa Jones Cup ang gumamit ng import. out of context yun reply mo, pls read analyze before you reply :)
 
saints13 said:
di mo ako nagets pre..

yun Asst. Coach ng Spurs, na si Chip Engellandang, ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized o import nun naglaro siya sa Jones Cup since I quoted his statement na tinatago pa rin daw nya un Jersey niya na San Miguel nung tinalo nila ang Team USA sa Jones Cup.

"I’ll never give up the San Miguel uniform I wore when we beat the US for the Jones Cup championship in 1985."

gets? pero malamang import siya nun since legal naman sa Jones Cup ang gumamit ng import. out of context yun reply mo, pls read analyze before you reply :)

Haha. Keep your cool man.;) Chip Engelland was a naturalized Filipino then. Together with Dennis Still and Jeff Moore, they are Americans paid by Danding Cojuangco to suit up the National colors as Filipinos. In the same manner, Fil-Ams like Willy Pearson and Ricky Brown were part of that celebrated NT. Not sure about the latter part though. I was still in Grade 1 then.:D
 
saints13 said:
di mo ako nagets pre..

yun Asst. Coach ng Spurs, na si Chip Engellandang, ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized o import nun naglaro siya sa Jones Cup since I quoted his statement na tinatago pa rin daw nya un Jersey niya na San Miguel nung tinalo nila ang Team USA sa Jones Cup.

"I’ll never give up the San Miguel uniform I wore when we beat the US for the Jones Cup championship in 1985."

gets? pero malamang import siya nun since legal naman sa Jones Cup ang gumamit ng import. out of context yun reply mo, pls read analyze before you reply :)

Chip Engelland, Dennis Still And Jeff Moore were part of the Danding Cojuangco bankrolled NCC-Philippines teams in the early to mid 1980s. They were naturalized Filipino citizens. They were not imports. NCC was disbanded after the EDSA revolution (Danding = Marcos crony) and Engelland was forced to leave the country.

Technically, he would have been eligible to play in the PBA s a local.
 
Burndvinyard said:
Haha. Keep your cool man.;) Chip Engelland was a naturalized Filipino then. Together with Dennis Still and Jeff Moore, they are Americans paid by Danding Cojuangco to suit up the National colors as Filipinos. In the same manner, Fil-Ams like Willy Pearson and Ricky Brown were part of that celebrated NT. Not sure about the latter part though. I was still in Grade 1 then.:D

Actually Dennis Still and Jeff Moore were already naturalized Filipinos during the Jones Cup tournament but Arthur "Chip" Engelland was almost naturalized... he was playing as an import in the Jones Cup, in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, in the World Club Championship and in the PBA Reinforced Conference... he wasn't able to participate in the FIBA Asia Championship in 1985-86 because he wasn't naturalized... only Jeff Moore and Dennis Still...

If the 1986 EDSA Revolution never took place... he could've played for the Philippines in the World Championship... by that time.. I'm sure he could have been naturalized as a Filipino player...
 
ah ok. :)

salamat sa info. wala pa yata ako 1 year old nun time na yun. Martial-Law baby pa ako nun, haha, sa kwento lng ng erpats ako nakakabalita about dun sa mga panahon na yun, e nsa Kuwait erpats ko ngaun kaya wla ako basketball almanac d2 s bahay, hehe. trend na pala talaga yan mga naturalization, nagsimula pala sa atin, haha, nahuli na sa uso mga arab countries, joke. uso na ulit sa mid-east, garapalan ang naturalization ng Qatar, sa Lebanon at Jordan medya medya lang.hehe.
 
y not???

y not???

saints13 said:
ah ok. :)

salamat sa info. wala pa yata ako 1 year old nun time na yun. Martial-Law baby pa ako nun, haha, sa kwento lng ng erpats ako nakakabalita about dun sa mga panahon na yun, e nsa Kuwait erpats ko ngaun kaya wla ako basketball almanac d2 s bahay, hehe. trend na pala talaga yan mga naturalization, nagsimula pala sa atin, haha, nahuli na sa uso mga arab countries, joke. uso na ulit sa mid-east, garapalan ang naturalization ng Qatar, sa Lebanon at Jordan medya medya lang.hehe.

Why not get any Americans who can suit up at the center position?we can get McCoy perhaps and many 2 mention NBA calibre black bball player...agree????
 
sergio23 said:
Why not get any Americans who can suit up at the center position?we can get McCoy perhaps and many 2 mention NBA calibre black bball player...agree????

ask them :)
 
Bigger EJ Feihl!!?:D That would be a bigger headache.

A bigger Jaworski on the detroit pistons will make the pistons the badder! hehehehe
 
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donmar said:
Actually Dennis Still and Jeff Moore were already naturalized Filipinos during the Jones Cup tournament but Arthur "Chip" Engelland was almost naturalized... he was playing as an import in the Jones Cup, in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, in the World Club Championship and in the PBA Reinforced Conference... he wasn't able to participate in the FIBA Asia Championship in 1985-86 because he wasn't naturalized... only Jeff Moore and Dennis Still...

If the 1986 EDSA Revolution never took place... he could've played for the Philippines in the World Championship... by that time.. I'm sure he could have been naturalized as a Filipino player...

donmar, where did you get that info? Engelland was a naturalized Filipino back then. FIBA doesn't even allow imports during those times.

Here's Chip Engelland's statements taken from an interview:


"I would’ve been proud to play for the Philippines," he said in an interview in 1997. "I lived in Manila for three years, exploring the countryside and assimilating with the people. I love Filipinos and the Philippines. I remember I was a godfather at the baptism of a baby whose father worked as a waiter in one of my favorite restaurants. It was a life’s experience and I chose to become a naturalized player like many others in the basketball world. I didn’t expect to be caught in a political crossfire. When the EDSA Revolution happened, no one wanted me anymore. I was hurt and sad. I waited for the chance to go back but my phone never rang. I just think politics should never have entered the equation...."
 
saints13 said:
di mo ako nagets pre..

yun Asst. Coach ng Spurs, na si Chip Engellandang, ang tinatanong ko kung naturalized o import nun naglaro siya sa Jones Cup since I quoted his statement na tinatago pa rin daw nya un Jersey niya na San Miguel nung tinalo nila ang Team USA sa Jones Cup.

"I’ll never give up the San Miguel uniform I wore when we beat the US for the Jones Cup championship in 1985."

gets? pero malamang import siya nun since legal naman sa Jones Cup ang gumamit ng import. out of context yun reply mo, pls read analyze before you reply :)


Chip Engelland is a Naturalized Filipino together with Dennis Still and Jeff Moore. Puro sila naturalized and not imports. They use Philippine passports. Dati kasi walang limit sa naturalized players so any team can field as many. Now, I think isa lang pwede per team.
 
bolabasket said:
Chip Engelland is a Naturalized Filipino together with Dennis Still and Jeff Moore. Puro sila naturalized and not imports. They use Philippine passports. Dati kasi walang limit sa naturalized players so any team can field as many. Now, I think isa lang pwede per team.

ah ganun po ba, tnx for the info, that particular info I didn't know :)

Ngayon ba e pwede isang Naturalized per team lang, e paano naman ang Qatar, sandamukal ang Naturalized player nila?

how come Qatari Sheik Saud Bin Ali Al-Thani (President of FIBA Asia 2006-2010) ignores the rule himself? :)
 
saints13 said:
ah ganun po ba, tnx for the info, that particular info I didn't know :)

Ngayon ba e pwede isang Naturalized per team lang, e paano naman ang Qatar, sandamukal ang Naturalized player nila?

how come Qatari Sheik Saud Bin Ali Al-Thani (President of FIBA Asia 2006-2010) ignores the rule himself? :)

Like Lebanon, they have Joe Vogel
Japan - Eric McArthur
as for Qatar, it would take a formal protest with FIBA to validate these "naturalized" players. I think they are saying they are natural Qataris and not naturalized. So unless, a protest is filed, these reports would not be validated.
 
Burndvinyard said:
donmar, where did you get that info? Engelland was a naturalized Filipino back then. FIBA doesn't even allow imports during those times.

Here's Chip Engelland's statements taken from an interview:


"I would’ve been proud to play for the Philippines," he said in an interview in 1997. "I lived in Manila for three years, exploring the countryside and assimilating with the people. I love Filipinos and the Philippines. I remember I was a godfather at the baptism of a baby whose father worked as a waiter in one of my favorite restaurants. It was a life’s experience and I chose to become a naturalized player like many others in the basketball world. I didn’t expect to be caught in a political crossfire. When the EDSA Revolution happened, no one wanted me anymore. I was hurt and sad. I waited for the chance to go back but my phone never rang. I just think politics should never have entered the equation...."

By the time he (Arthur Engelland) got naturalized... the FIBA Asia tournament already finished and they're already preparing for the World Championship but the EDSA Revolution took place.... In the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, the Jones Cup, the World Club Championship and the PBA Reinforced Conference... Engelland was playing as an import... the reason he wasn't playing the FIBA Asia Championship is because he wasn't a naturalized Filipino yet... Danding Cojuangco and Ron Jacobs learned their lesson in the 1983 FIBA Asia Championship where they field Jeff Moore and Dennis Still... the Philippines were unbeaten in the elimination rounds but was penalized for fielding Moore and Still (both unnaturalized players at the time... 1983)... so the Philippines didn't make it to the play-offs but instead playing for 9th-12th place despite winning every single game.... In 1983, the Philippines became the first unbeaten national team in a FIBA tournament ever to finished 9th place and not even a bronze medal
 
donmar said:
By the time he (Arthur Engelland) got naturalized... the FIBA Asia tournament already finished and they're already preparing for the World Championship but the EDSA Revolution took place.... In the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, the Jones Cup, the World Club Championship and the PBA Reinforced Conference... Engelland was playing as an import... the reason he wasn't playing the FIBA Asia Championship is because he wasn't a naturalized Filipino yet... Danding Cojuangco and Ron Jacobs learned their lesson in the 1983 FIBA Asia Championship where they field Jeff Moore and Dennis Still... the Philippines were unbeaten in the elimination rounds but was penalized for fielding Moore and Still (both unnaturalized players at the time... 1983)... so the Philippines didn't make it to the play-offs but instead playing for 9th-12th place despite winning every single game.... In 1983, the Philippines became the first unbeaten national team in a FIBA tournament ever to finished 9th place and not even a bronze medal

I remembered we toyed with Italy in our first game during that FIBA Championship in 1983. The score i think was 94-75.
 
bolabasket said:
I remembered we toyed with Italy in our first game during that FIBA Championship in 1983. The score i think was 94-75.

I'm talking about 1983 FIBA Asia Championship... I think its in the World Club Championship or the Jones Cup... we beat them big time in those two tournaments!
 
donmar said:
I'm talking about 1983 FIBA Asia Championship... I think its in the World Club Championship or the Jones Cup... we beat them big time in those two tournaments!
Right there and there, Danding Cojuangco was looking ahead.
 
ricodgame said:
KG CAñALETA or JC INTAL

Maybe, maybe not. Intal has better handles than Canaleta, not to mention his ability to play both guard positions. However, he would still need to bulk up if he is to play SF at the pro level. His outside shot could still stand some improvement. But if all goes well, Intal could very well be the next Meneses.
 
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