Serbian NT 2016

[R1ou]

It looks like Srefan Marković is retiring from NT. Truly great competitor, one of our key players, it will be very hard to replace him if this is true. His energy was amazing all these years.

Why?He's only 28 I think.

[CoachZ]

Why?He's only 28 I think.

Because since 2007 when he was 19, Him and Teodosic didn't have a single summer off. They have put their health, development on the line to be there for the NT. He is a defensive specialist and he has completed this cycle. In Tokyo he will be 32, he will not be able to run around and chase guys like he does now. This way he makes room for other PG prospects to grow and play and he can still have a great club career for another 4-5 years.

It's a brave move, one that I would like other people to take as well.

[Serbian_Layup]

I am sorry that he has to go, but believe me this will be a good thing for him and prolong his career and it will also open up the roster spot now for Eurobasket 2017 for both Zagorac and Guduric to join the team.

Probably, but it's just weird to see this team without him. I'd say Gudurić will make the team, but I'm not sure about Zagorac. He is signing an NBA deal next year, so he might decide to spend the entire next off-season in USA to get ready for NBA. He needs to work heavily on his strength and conditioning (Jokić did the same thing last year). We'll see how it plays out.

Why?He's only 28 I think.

He had a major injury last season, so I guess his body is giving him warnings and his wife is expecting a baby girl, he probably wants to spend more time with his family.

[Jazz]

Because since 2007 when he was 19, Him and Teodosic didn't have a single summer off. They have put their health, development on the line to be there for the NT. He is a defensive specialist and he has completed this cycle. In Tokyo he will be 32, he will not be able to run around and chase guys like he does now. This way he makes room for other PG prospects to grow and play and he can still have a great club career for another 4-5 years.

It's a brave move, one that I would like other people to take as well.

Do you think signing for Zenit is a good move for him?

[CoachZ]

Do you think signing for Zenit is a good move for him?

I think so, since he will be playing a major role there as well. His skillset transfers well to any league in Europe so he shouldn't really worry about that.

He will be the leader of that team and play big minutes. Also knowing Zenit, this year they will focus on narrowing the gap and go for Euroleague for next year, where they will splash the cash. So he can be a part of that project. Project Malaga is on it's weak legs again with so much turnover.

[Jazz]

I think so, since he will be playing a major role there as well. His skillset transfers well to any league in Europe so he shouldn't really worry about that.

He will be the leader of that team and play big minutes. Also knowing Zenit, this year they will focus on narrowing the gap and go for Euroleague for next year, where they will splash the cash. So he can be a part of that project. Project Malaga is on it's weak legs again with so much turnover.

I bet Plaza will be moaning to the players all year about Malaga losing their Euroleague license.

Will Erceg make a "comeback" this year?

[Hepcat]

So I see the Serbian team emerged with the coveted Olympic Silver medal. What then was all the recrimination, backbiting, bellyaching and dissing of Coach Đorđević earlier in this thread all about?

[auris1]

So I see the Serbian team emerged with the coveted Olympic Silver medal. What then was all the recrimination, backbiting, bellyaching and dissing of Coach Đorđević earlier in this thread all about?

I would think that was because of the last years Euro tournament ?
And teams selection ,perhaps ?

[CoachZ]

The issue of results is not the question. It's the way we play and perform (choke at Eurobasket 2015 and in general shitty play at Olympics outside of that game vs Australia). We can't complain regarding the results so far, but many of us are far from happy with team selection, our effort and level of play in many games. Also, many people don't like that stubborn attitude of Djordjevic...

[auris1]

The issue of results is not the question. It's the way we play and perform (choke at Eurobasket 2015 and in general shitty play at Olympics outside of that game vs Australia). We can't complain regarding the results so far, but many of us are far from happy with team selection, our effort and level of play in many games. Also, many people don't like that stubborn attitude of Djordjevic...

So , if it was up to you or some other fellow Serbians . ...and ...Lets not talk about what already happened ,but for next tournament ,2017 euros . Lets say you have carte blanche on your hands in choosing the team and a coach .How would you approach that ?

[CoachZ]

So , if it was up to you or some other fellow Serbians . ...and ...Lets not talk about what already happened ,but for next tournament ,2017 euros . Lets say you have carte blanche on your hands in choosing the team and a coach .How would you approach that ?

I would take Dejan Milojevic for the coach of the future and lock him up long term. Djordjevic again has taken a club job, that will again be an issue. I prefer a coach that wants to play modern basketball and get guys in shape to play at a high tempo for 40 minutes. This is what Milojevic does, also he is a much, much lesser ego than Djordjevic.

Regarding the team. It's early to say who the final 12 should be for Eurobasket, since we don't know how some people will perform but the player pool to select from would be:

G Teodosic, Nedovic, Jovic, Bogdanovic, Guduric, Marinkovic
F Bjelica, Kalinic, Zagorac, Macvan, Jelovac, Lucic, Simanic
C Raduljica, Marjanovic, Jokic, Milutinov, Musli

So from that 18, we could select the first 12. Some people might get injured, some might not answer the call up etc. In general, with those guys we would be more athletic, built for the future and easier to play modern basketball. A lot more shooting than now on the roster.

[auris1]

I would take Dejan Milojevic for the coach of the future and lock him up long term. Djordjevic again has taken a club job, that will again be an issue. I prefer a coach that wants to play modern basketball and get guys in shape to play at a high tempo for 40 minutes. This is what Milojevic does, also he is a much, much lesser ego than Djordjevic.

Regarding the team. It's early to say who the final 12 should be for Eurobasket, since we don't know how some people will perform but the player pool to select from would be:

G Teodosic, Nedovic, Jovic, Bogdanovic, Guduric, Marinkovic
F Bjelica, Kalinic, Zagorac, Macvan, Jelovac, Lucic, Simanic
C Raduljica, Marjanovic, Jokic, Milutinov, Musli

So from that 18, we could select the first 12. Some people might get injured, some might not answer the call up etc. In general, with those guys we would be more athletic, built for the future and easier to play modern basketball. A lot more shooting than now on the roster.

How certain are you that Dejan can deliver straight away ?
Would you have a patience to wait if things go wrong ?
I mean you would have to wait until 2019 . So no straight redemption .

[CoachZ]

How certain are you that Dejan can deliver straight away ?
Would you have a patience to wait if things go wrong ?
I mean you would have to wait until 2019 . So no straight redemption .

I said long term So yeah that is what I would be looking for from Dejan. He basically has the same level experience as Djordjevic when he took over the NT, and to be honest he did a far better job as a coach in the club than Djordjevic in the past It is a different story whether he would be as strong a motivator as Djordjevic.

I have no problem waiting out the results, especially since EB2017 will be a letdown and has lost a lot of its importance. I don't have a problem to stick by the coach, even if the results are not there. As long as the team is improving, playing with a lot of effort and playing modern and progressive basketball.

[auris1]

I said long term So yeah that is what I would be looking for from Dejan. He basically has the same level experience as Djordjevic when he took over the NT, and to be honest he did a far better job as a coach in the club than Djordjevic in the past It is a different story whether he would be as strong a motivator as Djordjevic.

I have no problem waiting out the results, especially since EB2017 will be a letdown and has lost a lot of its importance. I don't have a problem to stick by the coach, even if the results are not there. As long as the team is improving, playing with a lot of effort and playing modern and progressive basketball.

Good talk)
BTW ,who (what team ) do you consider to play modern basketball ?
Be it NT or club level in Europe ?

[CoachZ]

Good talk)
BTW ,who (what team ) do you consider to play modern basketball ?
Be it NT or club level in Europe ?

In terms of national teams, I don't think anyone does Spain is the closest to it, but with the over-reliance on Pau Gasol, that also goes out of the water kind of.

Regarding club teams. I think that CSKA plays a very fast paced and diverse offense that delivers game after game, regardless who they are facing and what kind of defense is run against them. They do have some defensive holes but they do try to play more of a NBA style defense compared to many other teams. They don't zone too much, they are not really a hand grabby team and they run a great transition game from defensive rebounds and turnovers.

Brose Basket runs a very modern offensive concept as a team and they like to push the tempo. Of course, the quality is not there in terms of player talent but in terms of scheme and approach to the game, it is a great concept. Similar to that Zvezda runs a very aggressive defensive scheme which doesn't rely much on zone, and is quite modern and high paced. Of course, the offense is another story.

In terms of ball movement, Fenerbahce is the best on the continent. Matchup offense and ball movement that Obradovic tries to implement is straight out of Spurs playbook. Still there are many other concepts in Fener that are really old fashioned though.

Real Madrid transition game is also there, a fluid transition which eliminates the PG as the initiator of the transition. That is great also.

So there are concepts here and there, but CSKA is the closest to a team-wide effort on that front.