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Originally posted by vaslover View PostThat,s why I think this competition is UTOPIAN. For example, the first five places will get licenceses to euroleague . Can you imagine, that two best Lithuanian teams eventually will get six and seven places( it,s possible,why not actually, especially considering Russian money) in the regular season. So, how they,ll solve their problems?.. That,s why this competition seems quite doubtful.
If in some utopical way LKL and other leagues would merge with VTB, still separate countries would have their places in EL, like it is in Adriatic League, so f.e. if Zalgiris finishes 6th and Rytas 7th - Zalgiris goes to Euroleague, VEF finishes 12th, they represents Latvia in qualies and etc., but it ain't gonna happen, not a chance in nearest future.
And I don't think VTB league is utopic or smth, IMO it's great replacement for BBL (for LT clubs), atleast VTB management is thinking some dumbs things like merging the leagues or smth... I don't mind PBL + VTB, but with others it ain't gonna work
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Rule of the thumb generally is good - always follow the money.
Russians pay the money,they want this competition.
We play because money is good,and teams we play against are competitive,with only few exceptions due to expansion.
I guess finland idea was not good at all either way you look.But the idea of replicating old ussr type of tournament is not bad.
2 Lithuanian teams,Estonian,Latvian,Belorussian,few Ukrainian teams,replace Georgians,and there you go.
But once money stops,it will be back to BBLAnd let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Zalgiris 17 times in a row.
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Originally posted by sagenas View PostStop joking, please.
but he can also destroy stemberger ass (face)
Jordi Bertomeu sucks!
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Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View PostSecond rate americans?
Rytas has no player close to Rawle Marshall's level.just sayin.
who is this Marshall... and why he doesn't play for any respectable team? Stop trollin, will ya
No need for that here. RobbeLast edited by robbe; 10-09-2011, 04:58 PM.
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In fact D.Johnson and Milosevic are former Rytas's players. Marshall, Cvetkovic and that big guy, whose name i don't remember and who can't play against pressing near the basket are not worse. So generally those Astana's americans are somewhere about the same level as foreigners that Rytas usually has.
I didn't see (or remember) that Marshall before, but i liked his skills. He's surely better than former Rytas's sf Newley. But we had Eidson some years ago, who's better than him. I don't remember noone else though.
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Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View PostIn fact D.Johnson and Milosevic are former Rytas's players. Marshall, Cvetkovic and that big guy, whose name i don't remember and who can't play against pressing near the basket are not worse. So generally those Astana's americans are somewhere about the same level as foreigners that Rytas usually has.
I didn't see (or remember) that Marshall before, but i liked his skills. He's surely better than former Rytas's sf Newley. But we had Eidson some years ago, who's better than him. I don't remember noone else though.
Newley isn't worse than Marshall and he isn't former Rytas' SF, he's playing for Lietuvos Rytas right now.
If you look at Newley only from some games and the way he is used here in Vilnius, then you should watch some games of him playing for Australia.
P.s. and not "D.Johnson" but J.Johnson.
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Originally posted by sagenas View PostForeigners like that don't stay in Rytas for a long time.
Newley isn't worse than Marshall and he isn't former Rytas' SF, he's playing for Lietuvos Rytas right now.
If you look at Newley only from some games and the way he is used here in Vilnius, then you should watch some games of him playing for Australia.
P.s. and not "D.Johnson" but J.Johnson.
I watched some Newley's game in WC and didn't see anything what i couldn't see in Lithuania. He's quite good in defence, but he's freaking unstable in offense and has quite bad shot for SF. And you won't denie, that he's psichological weak, he mentioned it himself and it's also an important aspect of the game.
Finally, i don't understund the point of it's dispute. The current foreigners in Astana generally are players of Rytas's level. No doubt.
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Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View PostSecond rate americans?
Rytas has no player close to Rawle Marshall's level.just sayin.
Some people are tend to call players second rate if they dont play in well known teams.. Thats wrong in general. Price, Eidson, Nielsen, Bjelica could be easily called second rate player before they came to rytas and look how majority of them are doing now.
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