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  • #46
    France ,, they are the most un predictable team in this WC . It's hard to anticipate this one too .But I vote for Turkey because of their fans.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by wyopeq View Post
      It will not be a blowout!!!

      It will be a close game from the beginning till the end... I don t think any team can grab a lead more than 10 pts throughout the game.

      It will be a very physical game and defensive game. Rebounding will be too important and France is very good at grabbing offensive rebounds.

      In normal conditions, Turkey will be the winner, however if Turkey allow France grab so many offensive boards, then France can have the chance to win the game.

      Do not underestimate this France team! They really have very quality players. They just lack offensive fluence.

      I think it is 60% - 40%. Surely will not be a blowout game.
      totally agree.....
      It is going to be a tough game.......

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      • #48
        Originally posted by shutup_ View Post
        France beat Spain a few days ago. So... U know what I mean... Normally Turkey should be victorious. France permformed much better than I expected in this tournament to be honest. It will be a close game not a blowout.
        Absolutely right.

        It is not gonna be easy game.. 50 - 50 percents...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by UMUT_FB_LAL View Post
          TOURNAMENT STATISTICS

          Total Rebounds: SRB, TUR, USA, PUR
          3-point %: TUR, GER, CRO, USA
          2-point %: USA, SLO, SPA, SRB
          FT %: RUS, SRB, GER, ARG
          FT attempts: SPA, LTU, LIB, NZL
          Assists: SPA, SRB, TUR, USA + NZL + RUS
          Steals: USA, CIV + TUR, ESP + BRA
          Blocks: CIV, TUR, SPA, RUS
          Turnovers (lowest): GRE, ARG, CRO, TUR
          Points scored: SRB, USA, NZL, SPA
          Points allowed (lowest): TUR, USA, LTU, RUS

          Funny, I see Turkey seven times on this list and France zero
          Yet you think France are the favourites.. you must look at basketball in a very unique way
          fouls earned?

          As far as fouls against you have only 15.6 per game despite your "great defence". Usually hard defence = lots of fouls, but you must be the exception.

          Team name GP MPG PF PFPG
          1. New Zealand 5 40 126 25.2
          2. Croatia 5 40 121 24.2
          3. Puerto Rico 5 40 110 22
          4. Germany 5 43 109 21.8
          5. Slovenia 5 40 106 21.2
          6. Canada 5 40 103 20.6
          Cote d'Ivoire 5 40 103 20.6
          France 5 40 103 20.6
          Greece 5 40 103 20.6
          Lithuania 5 40 103 20.6
          11. Spain 5 40 102 20.4
          12. Brazil 5 40 101 20.2
          13. Russia 5 40 100 20
          14. Jordan 5 40 98 19.6
          15. Angola 5 41 97 19.4
          16. Serbia 5 42 95 19
          17. USA 5 40 93 18.6
          18. Argentina 5 40 92 18.4
          Australia 5 40 92 18.4
          20. China 5 40 90 18
          21. Iran 5 40 83 16.6
          22. Lebanon 5 40 81 16.2
          23. Tunisia 5 40 80 16
          24. Turkey 5 40 78 15.6 pg

          Come on.... refs are making an excellent job for you.
          Don't worry about France
          Last edited by final countdown; 09-03-2010, 09:23 AM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by final countdown View Post
            fouls earned?

            As far as fouls against you have only 15.6 per game despite your "great defence". Usually hard defence = lots of fouls, but you must be the exception.

            Come on.... refs are making an excellent job for you.
            Don't worry about France
            defense is sometimes not only to beat the opposition players. This proves nothing. Turkey is not playing hard defense but they are playing a great defense.

            Turkey in a margin that cumulatively gets bigger throughout the game. +10 maybe

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Deschain View Post
              Turkey is not playing hard defense but they are playing a great defense.
              you must be joking. Last year's eurobasket in Poland turkey under the same coach was the 7th best defence (out of 12) with 21,2 fouls against per game and now only 15.6 fpg?

              How come all other teams r quite steady in fouls against?
              For example:
              country - 2009 fapg - 2010 fapg

              france - 21.6 - 20.6 (-4.6%)
              lithuania - 19.3 - 20.6 (+6.7%)
              croatia - 22.8 - 24.2 (+6.1%)
              spain - 18.7 -20.4 (+9%)
              greece - 20.9 - 20.6 (-1.4%) all 5 with in a range -+ 10%
              turkey 21.2 - 15.6 (-26.4%)

              What changed so much in one year only?

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              • #52
                attitude? belief? confidence? new tactical systems?

                that sounded like an nba commercial. heh

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Deschain View Post
                  attitude? belief? confidence? new tactical systems?
                  what about home advantage?

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                  • #54
                    Does franch team have a coach?
                    I don't think so..they play wild basket..there is no sence in their game.
                    Easy win for Bosha and Turkey..
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by final countdown View Post
                      fouls earned?

                      As far as fouls against you have only 15.6 per game despite your "great defence". Usually hard defence = lots of fouls, but you must be the exception.

                      Team name GP MPG PF PFPG
                      1. New Zealand 5 40 126 25.2
                      2. Croatia 5 40 121 24.2
                      3. Puerto Rico 5 40 110 22
                      4. Germany 5 43 109 21.8
                      5. Slovenia 5 40 106 21.2
                      6. Canada 5 40 103 20.6
                      Cote d'Ivoire 5 40 103 20.6
                      France 5 40 103 20.6
                      Greece 5 40 103 20.6
                      Lithuania 5 40 103 20.6
                      11. Spain 5 40 102 20.4
                      12. Brazil 5 40 101 20.2
                      13. Russia 5 40 100 20
                      14. Jordan 5 40 98 19.6
                      15. Angola 5 41 97 19.4
                      16. Serbia 5 42 95 19
                      17. USA 5 40 93 18.6
                      18. Argentina 5 40 92 18.4
                      Australia 5 40 92 18.4
                      20. China 5 40 90 18
                      21. Iran 5 40 83 16.6
                      22. Lebanon 5 40 81 16.2
                      23. Tunisia 5 40 80 16
                      24. Turkey 5 40 78 15.6 pg

                      Come on.... refs are making an excellent job for you.
                      Don't worry about France
                      # of fouls of Turkey against CIV was 13, against Russia was 22, against Greece was 17, against Puerto Rico was 15, against China was 11.

                      There were no contention in the games of CIV –TUR and CH-TUR.. only shows of basketball. Also doing less fouls against Greece was a part of tactics. Also the cause of doing less fouls against PR was the different style of their game plans like always shooting 3 pts. And also this is World Championship not European C.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by final countdown View Post
                        you must be joking. Last year's eurobasket in Poland turkey under the same coach was the 7th best defence (out of 12) with 21,2 fouls against per game and now only 15.6 fpg?

                        How come all other teams r quite steady in fouls against?
                        For example:
                        country - 2009 fapg - 2010 fapg

                        france - 21.6 - 20.6 (-4.6%)
                        lithuania - 19.3 - 20.6 (+6.7%)
                        croatia - 22.8 - 24.2 (+6.1%)
                        spain - 18.7 -20.4 (+9%)
                        greece - 20.9 - 20.6 (-1.4%) all 5 with in a range -+ 10%
                        turkey 21.2 - 15.6 (-26.4%)

                        What changed so much in one year only?
                        Are those statistics for the entire tournament? Cause everybody knows after the quarter final we were down, we had a really 2 bad game and statistics went down as well..

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                        • #57
                          You all give more importance to the statistics.Every match has a different story.

                          I predict if we have %70-75 Ft we will going to win.Because France will doing a lot of fauls and we will use a lot of free throws.It's the most importing thing for this match.

                          Also it will not be easy game.Probably the difference will not pass ten points.

                          If we have match ten time , we would win eight times exactly.But it's the important thing that this match mustn't be this two match.
                          Originally posted by ecay
                          Neutral 10+ for Turkey
                          Subjective 25+ for Türkiye
                          It was done painfully +1 last 4.5 seconds.So good than winning by 25+

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                          • #58
                            I can't see France taking this one. They rightfully tried (although failed) to pick the third spot in their group in order to play Russia (instead of Greece, Turkey), even though that meant to play the USA in the quarters.

                            Yet, they have also prooven to play surprisingly good in several occasions. France have knocked out the hosts Serbia in a similar fase during Eurobasket 2005. Yes, I know Parker was part of that team, but I wouldn't underestimate them if I were Turkey.
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                            • #59
                              Also France going to be rested for 2 days and we know rested France team defeated the favourite Spain.If there is not two day break i will say %100 win for us.But now %70 or 80 i predict.
                              Originally posted by ecay
                              Neutral 10+ for Turkey
                              Subjective 25+ for Türkiye
                              It was done painfully +1 last 4.5 seconds.So good than winning by 25+

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by thnkbell View Post
                                Point is that we were expecting NZ. But France is now. I am sure that France will result in better motivation for our TR team. It is like that NZ-TR would be like PUR-TR but FRA-TR is like GRE-TR. And, this is much much better.
                                Huh???


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