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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostAnd we are still current Eurobasket champions. Nobody will say much, if Slovenia misses qualifications, but I wonder what will happen in Lithuania, if you don’t qualify? I always liked Lithuania, was a big fan of Sabonis, Saras...but I am a bit disappointed with your production of new players lately. Not much to cheer about, maybe you should bring some American guard?
I understand Ignas Brazdeikis was born in Lithuania so it is a little different - I am not here to debate anything here (lets not get into it please), I'm just curious if anyone knows if he is considered a naturalized player per the definition of the rules. He does not have Lithuanian citizenship currently (though he did as a baby), he played for Canada in FIBA post age 17, and will be getting his Lithuanian citizenship/passport after age 16. That seems to count as a naturalized player by the definition of the rules unless there are special circumstance for "restoring" citizenship one once had.
I didn't think too much of him to start the season, but he is now playing very well in the G-League, he might actually become a regular NBA player. This is the first I am seeing that.
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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostThis Zvezda love is a bit strange, knowing that he hate everything about his father.
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Originally posted by mojo13 View PostLithuania has chosen to go after a Canadian PF/SF instead!
I understand Ignas Brazdeikis was born in Lithuania so it is a little different - I am not here to debate anything here (lets not get into it please), I'm just curious if anyone knows if he is considered a naturalized player per the definition of the rules. He does not have Lithuanian citizenship currently (though he did as a baby), he played for Canada in FIBA post age 17, and will be getting his Lithuanian citizenship/passport after age 16. That seems to count as a naturalized player by the definition of the rules unless there are special circumstance for "restoring" citizenship one once had.
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Originally posted by Mindozas View PostI remember one case when Vasil Evtimov played for France in 2001 Eurobasket, then as Bulgarian born to Bulgarian parents he changed basketball nationality and played for Bulgaria in 2009 Eurobasket. In Bulgarian NT next to Evtimov played naturalized American Earl Rowland. So if the rules stayed the same - Brazdeikis also shouldn't be counted as naturalized player, but not sure tho
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Even if Brazdeikis case would be naturalization, let's not compare naturalization of random American who suddenly should be Turkish, Croatian ect, and naturalization of pure Lithuanian by blood (he's not only born and lived in Kaunas for three/four years, but both of his parents are pure Lithuanians) to his homeland. It's black and white reallyLTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Mindozas View PostI remember one case when Vasil Evtimov played for France in 2001 Eurobasket, then as Bulgarian born to Bulgarian parents he changed basketball nationality and played for Bulgaria in 2009 Eurobasket. In Bulgarian NT next to Evtimov played naturalized American Earl Rowland. So if the rules stayed the same - Brazdeikis also shouldn't be counted as naturalized player, but not sure tho
the way I understand it, FIBA is a bit more flexible than usual towards countries with limited top level talent. Ermal Kuqo was also allowed to play for his native country, Albania.5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.
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nationality is bit more complicated and nuanced matter in Europe, especially in small countries from southern and south eastern region, where the line between being for example a turk or albanian is quite blurred very often. Same goes for the whole bunch of balkan countries, who are intertwined and connected to each other historically and culturally. Not so much for the people from the other continents, who have no cultural or emotional ties to the europeans...so I'd say having a player from your neighbouring country represent your NT is not exactly the same as having an american or some african fella proudly wearing your country's colors
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Originally posted by mojo13 View PostThe naturalization rules were updated and tightened a few years ago so who knows what it is now. I suppose it should not matter unless Lithuania plans to naturalize another player.
Originally posted by Levenspiel View PostThis is a good example. "Evtimov is the only player to ever compete at EuroBasket for two countries". His brother played for France, too.
the way I understand it, FIBA is a bit more flexible than usual towards countries with limited top level talent. Ermal Kuqo was also allowed to play for his native country, Albania.
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Originally posted by madmax View Postnationality is bit more complicated and nuanced matter in Europe, especially in small countries from southern and south eastern region, where the line between being for example a turk or albanian is quite blurred very often. Same goes for the whole bunch of balkan countries, who are intertwined and connected to each other historically and culturally. Not so much for the people from the other continents, who have no cultural or emotional ties to the europeans...so I'd say having a player from your neighbouring country represent your NT is not exactly the same as having an american or some african fella proudly wearing your country's colors
Originally posted by Mindozas View PostTrue, Kuqo also. And while writing this I recalled a case of Anton Gavel, even reverse case, from Slovakia to Germany back in 2015. But I don't remember if he was counted as naturalized or not. These are probably the only 3 cases in bball what comes to senior teams5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.
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Jordan Morgan to play for Slovenia. Random American guy who happened to play one season in Ljubljana.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostJordan Morgan to play for Slovenia. Random American guy who happened to play one season in Ljubljana.previously known as Beno
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