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    Default 2018 World Championship with 32 teams?

    I have no link to the news in English, but AFP reports that FIBA's Secretary General Patrick Baumann mentioned that the WC could expand to 32 nations by 2018, although such a decision would require improvement from Asian and African nations.



    I have a few reasons why i'd like this to happen:

    1) The more nations involved, the bigger the event becomes.
    2) It's a way to keep NTs from needing its NBA players every year, since every good team will surely qualify.
    3) Having a better chance to qualify for a World Championship can help popularize basketball in many countries that don't have such chances nowadays.

    But... are there that many good NTs?

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    There's already a proposal for expanding the number of teams in the Olympics, so I guess this is a "trend".
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    There aren't, this seems like an attempt to mimic the World Cup but this would dilute the meaning of the regional titles even more. I mean with 32 teams you could just about invite all of the teams that qualified for Eurobasket at that rate. 24 for the moment is a good cap, until the level of quality competitive teams goes up.

    Americas teams besides Argentina and the USA need to step up
    Asian teams besides China (and Australia if oceania joins Asia) have to step up
    and African teams have to step up period for this to make any sort of sense.
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    Lebanon Jordan and Iran are world class but sub compared to world powers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    There aren't, this seems like an attempt to mimic the World Cup but this would dilute the meaning of the regional titles even more.
    Atleast in Europe - no.Top teams looks into EC not as qualification round to WC, but as separate tournament, where they competes for medals. If some teams fails to reach semis, then there're some motivation for them to play for 5-8th places and WC tickets, but it's like consolation prize.
    Regarding Olympics, it's another story, but WC is not that prestigious as OG.


    Regarding more teams in WC, it's hard to say now how it all will look like after 9 years. Players' generations will change, cores of the NT will be different, so maybe there will be 32 more or less competitive teams to participate or maybe FIBA will have thoughts to reduce places till 16 who knows


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    I'd much rather see 32 teams in the WC than 16 teams in the Olympics. I would propose 4 groups of 8 teams with the top 3 from each group advancing, but I doubt they would go with that.

    32 would almost assure that all the good teams would qualify, and still leave plenty of room for new teams to get a shot. It would also further differentiate the tournament from the Olympics, which is a good thing for both tournaments IMO.
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    That is a good point about differentiating the tournaments, the olympics as the best of the best, with the Worlds as a showcase for all the teams.
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    way to many teams. i hope it does not happen. there's just not enough quality

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    Since Olympics in 30's 40's and 50's were 24 teams,. But the World Championships will highest to 32 for the first time. Others, its already most of many teams were in World University Games which have probably were 50 teams!

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    Hey Filipinos, Japan and Chinese Taipei looks a little struggled against Mongolia by 40 pts. Mongolia is weaker than Singapore NT

    And also Korea beaten Hongkong by 21pts only. Hongkong is same level of Malaysia and Indonesia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delibasic View Post
    way to many teams. i hope it does not happen. there's just not enough quality
    Agreed. At this point, yes the Asian and African teams are improving, but at an overall level, a world stage, only 1 African team and 3 Asian teams are competitive. This is Angola (far and away in Africa. Thank you Victorino Cunha), China, Iran, and Lebanon. First, we need to see continental championships get more competitive moe often. I mean, for the most part in Asia, you can guess the top 4 and usually get all of them or at least 3. Africa is sort of lagging behind. What about the rest of Oceania though? I would love to see all the small islands develop, if possible. Also, 32 teams makes real logistical problems and limits hosts as well. If anything, if they come to think of changing the amount of teams, they should downsize. I think it creates more competition trying to battle out for less spots. And ti's easier for nations to host.

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    Looking back on the 2006 tournament Africa actually had pretty damn good showing. Nigeria and Angola making the knockout round, and Nigeria being a basket away from knocking out Germany. If they continue to improve, maybe this 32 team tournament will actually be pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    Looking back on the 2006 tournament Africa actually had pretty damn good showing. Nigeria and Angola making the knockout round, and Nigeria being a basket away from knocking out Germany. If they continue to improve, maybe this 32 team tournament will actually be pretty cool.
    Yes they did. But, its the first and only time that Africa has had a great showing. Lets see in 2010 what they do. Also, Africa needs to be more competitive just on the continent. Cape Verde and Cameroon seem to be making improvements and strides on the senior level. Hopefully, that will continue. Senegal though seems to be going down. Nigeria hopefully, is on the upswing again as they went through a down period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usausa View Post
    Agreed. At this point, yes the Asian and African teams are improving, but at an overall level, a world stage, only 1 African team and 3 Asian teams are competitive.
    This is an absurd statement. How can you say there are more competitive Asian teams that African teams? Lebanon had some good results in 2008 (although not as good as Nigeria), but they've gotten slaughtered in their other World events. What's Iran ever done to be deemed "competitive" at a world stage? Nigeria, Cameroon, and probably Senegal are better than both of those teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX View Post
    This is an absurd statement. How can you say there are more competitive Asian teams that African teams? Lebanon had some good results in 2008 (although not as good as Nigeria), but they've gotten slaughtered in their other World events. What's Iran ever done to be deemed "competitive" at a world stage? Nigeria, Cameroon, and probably Senegal are better than both of those teams.
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    Dude you just read my mind, Lebanon and Iran had made their way to International Events in watered-down Asian Competitions.while good teams in Africa, the Americas, and other places (E.G. New Zealand) don't get a chance
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    no there would be to many blow-outs. when level goes up i'm for it. until that happens 24 it's just nice.
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    I don't believe that the problem of the World Championship is the number of the teams.There are so many problems,as the "propaganda" anc the whole communication-"marketing" (i dislike this word about the sports)project.

    They decided to organize the same year with the World Cups,that's ok.Fortunately they organise it in the end (?)of August,although in Europe/S.America the football League tournaments start. I think that FIBA have to find a motivation and a good reason people who care about sports,start to watch World Championships after the Wolrd Cups...
    FIBA made the European Championship and the other tournaments,something like the "challenge round" to play in a World Championship. But with this way no games,no weak national teams getting better with strong games versus better teams. But for the World Cup,so many pool,so manny games,so many written pages in the newspapers,so many TV hour...

    I hope that I am being understood.I hope that 24 teams is the best - so far- number for a World Chamionship,especially with 4 pools by 6 teams each one. In 1986 in Spain it was the 1st time that 24 teams participated and then,FIBA organised with 16 teams for many years in spite of news national teams have been created by ex-YU & ex-USSR. Not the same mistakes!!!
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    24 teams by World basketball championship? Thats ok.
    32 teams? Thats World Basketball League

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