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    Quote Originally Posted by andry View Post
    smart-gilas (our college squad under toroman) is definitely on the rise. unfortunately, the team we're sending in FIBA Asia is another team composed of PBA players with little exposure to FIBA rules. we can only hope that it fares well against strong, big teams like lebanon. all other things being equal, i think our philippine team is only good for a fourth place finish.

    would you agree that we, Filipino NT, will win a slot in FIBA via SEABA?..

    me?, yes i do believe so

    but for the FIBA tournament, i have doubts if the Philippine NT will even reach the quarter finals,..
    china, lebanon, kazakhstan, and iran, where would Philippines be?

    after all the arguments about aguilar, giles and lutz, this is the rationale..
    this is just my opinion anyway. don't mind me.

    but i am challenging the poweraide NT, after all that have been said about the smart gilas and how unexperienced they are but still manage to shake the defense of other asian NT, it's the poweraide team's time show what they are made of..

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    Quote Originally Posted by andry View Post
    smart-gilas (our college squad under toroman) is definitely on the rise. unfortunately, the team we're sending in FIBA Asia is another team composed of PBA players with little exposure to FIBA rules. we can only hope that it fares well against strong, big teams like lebanon. all other things being equal, i think our philippine team is only good for a fourth place finish.


    would you agree that we, Filipino NT, will win a slot in FIBA via SEABA?..

    me?, yes i do believe so

    but for the FIBA-asia tournament, i have doubts if the Philippine NT will even reach the quarter finals,..
    china, lebanon, kazakhstan, and iran, where would Philippines be?

    after all the arguments about aguilar, giles and lutz, this is the rationale..
    this is just my opinion anyway. don't mind me.

    but i am challenging the poweraide NT, after all that have been said about the smart gilas and how unexperienced they are but still manage to shake the defense of other asian NT, it's the poweraide team's time show what they are made of..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamagurl87 View Post
    would you agree that we, Filipino NT, will win a slot in FIBA via SEABA?..

    me?, yes i do believe so

    but for the FIBA-asia tournament, i have doubts if the Philippine NT will even reach the quarter finals,..
    china, lebanon, kazakhstan, and iran, where would Philippines be?

    after all the arguments about aguilar, giles and lutz, this is the rationale..
    this is just my opinion anyway. don't mind me.

    but i am challenging the poweraide NT, after all that have been said about the smart gilas and how unexperienced they are but still manage to shake the defense of other asian NT, it's the poweraide team's time show what they are made of..
    its powerade
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    with all ma respect for asian national teams and the Philis , Jordan Ahead to Turkey from now ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamagurl87 View Post
    would you agree that we, Filipino NT, will win a slot in FIBA via SEABA?..

    me?, yes i do believe so

    but for the FIBA-asia tournament, i have doubts if the Philippine NT will even reach the quarter finals,..
    china, lebanon, kazakhstan, and iran, where would Philippines be?

    after all the arguments about aguilar, giles and lutz, this is the rationale..
    this is just my opinion anyway. don't mind me.

    but i am challenging the poweraide NT, after all that have been said about the smart gilas and how unexperienced they are but still manage to shake the defense of other asian NT, it's the poweraide team's time show what they are made of..
    Yup. These are the Filipino fans. We can't even be united even in times of "war." The other countries must be laughing because even in our own backyard we can't even seem to be one.

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    three Serbs among the contenders Dragan Racca (Lebanon), Veselin Matic (Iran) and Rajko Toroman (Philippines)

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    for the record, nobody thought iran was going to win the 2007 fiba asia but they did. our team during that time had everything... one million dollar budget, all the best trainings, preparations, tune up games etc, but look at what happened. this time we have a team that was created last november, has only a once to twice a week of practice, only few tune up games, but composed of 8 former members of the 2007 team including the reserves. i still have faith in this team no matter what. until we see the final groupings of all the participating teams and the progress of our team right after the pba season, we can never tell. let's just remain positive... let's hope and pray that the groupings will favor us this time. i hope this time those teams that were grouped in a weaker group last fiba asia will now be put in a tough group. as of now, i can say china is the only team that is assured of qualifying to wbc while the 2 remaining slots are still up for grabs...

    "its not only how long the preparation is and how many tune games that are played that matters, its also the experience of the players in playing in international games and luck with regards to the groupings." hope this time we'll get lucky with the draw... goodluck to team pilipinas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilWelsh View Post
    three Serbs among the contenders Dragan Racca (Lebanon), Veselin Matic (Iran) and Rajko Toroman (Philippines)
    A slight correction Sir, Toroman won't be the coach for the Philippines in Tianjin, China and only two Serbs among the contenders and one Portuguese in Mario Palma (Jordan).....

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    Why worry about the Group of Death ? so we can have a better chance in advancing to the second round ?

    If you truly believe that the Philppines is one of the title contenders, does it really matter who they're going to face, I'd rather say just bring it on and have them fear -the Angel of Death in Team Pilippines, sounds good ?.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamwalker View Post
    Why worry about the Group of Death ? so we can have a better chance in advancing to the second round ?

    If you truly believe that the Philppines is one of the title contenders, does it really matter who they're going to face, I'd rather say just bring it on and have them fear -the Angel of Death in Team Pilippines, sounds good ?.......
    not only second round but succeeding rounds too... what im talking here is the probabilities or the chances... in 2007 did you really think that rp was only good for 9th place? or lebanon was really good for second place? for the record, our 2007 team was one of the most prepared teams we have and when we were grouped in the group of death some people were saying 'bring it on', even me i was saying 'if you want to be the best you gotta beat the best' and then boom look at what happened... opposite the case of the 2007 team of lebanon. did you know that that team was only formed like 2 months before the fiba-asia and they have to do it with a new coach? but what happened was they were grouped in a weaker group where in their first few games they had the luxury of resting khatib and other key players to prepare them for round 2 and then look they finished second, though the other reason why they finished 2nd was the experience of the team in playing in international competitions...

    my point here is its better to face tough teams in the succeeding rounds not in the first round. what if we were grouped like let's say with iran, jordan, japan/qatar or china kazakhztan, japan/qatar... its better to worry some of these teams in the succeeding rounds...

    angel of death in team philippines? sounds good
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLO View Post
    with all ma respect for asian national teams and the Philis , Jordan Ahead to Turkey from now ......
    Why are you so sure about that?! I don't think jordan is even close to compete with China, Iran and Lebanon!

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    Surprising decision - Davison quits as Qatar head coach! -
    Jun 7, 2009 (by Mohammed Malas)


    In a surprising decision to everyone, The American head coach of Qatar National Team Kent Davison decided to stop his career with the team and leave back to the US due to some personal issues, Former national team player Ali Fakhro will take over the team for the long FIBA Summer 2009 journey up to the FIBA Asia Championship in Tianjin, China next August.

    Davison led Qatar to win the last FIBA Gulf Championship in Oman as he began to make a new team with a mixture betwen experience and youth's dynamic from around one year ago.

    The new head coach Fakhro who worked with several forgein head coaches during the last few years began trainings yesterday with 14 called up players as he asked for 3 more and they're: Marzooq Abu-Sabbar A adding to the brothers Saleem Abdullah Mohammed (202-C-82) and Saleem Abdullah Malek (195-F-85).

    source: www.asia-basket.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliooo93 View Post
    Why are you so sure about that?! I don't think jordan is even close to compete with China, Iran and Lebanon!
    yeah am pretty sure of that , cause i love ma country and the way of the team play + we will see what would Jordan Do this summer and the court will decide .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLO View Post
    yeah am pretty sure of that , cause i love ma country and the way of the team play + we will see what would Jordan Do this summer and the court will decide .
    good luck

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    Can someone list the teams that are already qualified to play in this year's FIBA ASIA.

    Philippine and Indonesia are now qualified and will represent the SEA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvandread View Post
    Can someone list the teams that are already qualified to play in this year's FIBA ASIA.

    Philippine and Indonesia are now qualified and will represent the SEA.
    China, jordan, kazakhstan, kuwait, qatar, india, iran, lebanon, indonesia, philippines. Those are the 10 teams that already made it. I don't know about the rest but i'm pretty sure that korea, japan, taipe.. will also be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliooo93 View Post
    China, jordan, kazakhstan, kuwait, qatar, india, iran, lebanon, indonesia, philippines. Those are the 10 teams that already made it. I don't know about the rest but i'm pretty sure that korea, japan, taipe.. will also be there
    only two from east asia (aside from china).
    that's why i think the most affected subzone with this new qualification system implemented is east asia

    ...imagine if china was not the host. only one among skor, japan, and taipei will qualify!

    and to think any one of those three teams can beat half of the teams in fiba asia championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu_bol View Post
    only two from east asia (aside from china).
    that's why i think the most affected subzone with this new qualification system implemented is east asia

    ...imagine if china was not the host. only one among skor, japan, and taipei will qualify!

    and to think any one of those three teams can beat half of the teams in fiba asia championships.
    skor and japan will surely advance..prove me wrong Taipei..ive seen japan's and korea's team and line up..im sory to tell taiwan will just have to wait..Fact!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu_bol View Post
    only two from east asia (aside from china).
    that's why i think the most affected subzone with this new qualification system implemented is east asia

    ...imagine if china was not the host. only one among skor, japan, and taipei will qualify!

    and to think any one of those three teams can beat half of the teams in fiba asia championships.
    skor and japan will surely advance..prove me wrong Taipei..ive seen japan's and korea's team and line up..im sory to tell taiwan will just have to wait..Fact!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrb0yd View Post
    for the record, nobody thought iran was going to win the 2007 fiba asia but they did. our team during that time had everything... one million dollar budget, all the best trainings, preparations, tune up games etc, but look at what happened. this time we have a team that was created last november, has only a once to twice a week of practice, only few tune up games, but composed of 8 former members of the 2007 team including the reserves. i still have faith in this team no matter what. until we see the final groupings of all the participating teams and the progress of our team right after the pba season, we can never tell. let's just remain positive... let's hope and pray that the groupings will favor us this time. i hope this time those teams that were grouped in a weaker group last fiba asia will now be put in a tough group. as of now, i can say china is the only team that is assured of qualifying to wbc while the 2 remaining slots are still up for grabs...

    "its not only how long the preparation is and how many tune games that are played that matters, its also the experience of the players in playing in international games and luck with regards to the groupings." hope this time we'll get lucky with the draw... goodluck to team pilipinas!
    Very well said sir. I believed that experienced and luck must join in order to get that prestige opportunity for our team. Let's all hope the best for the team. You can do it.

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