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    Default 25th FIBA Asia Championship 2009 [Aug 6-16 China]

    ok 2007 championships is now history, let's start the conversation and arguments all over again in this thread!
    let's keep the rivalry rolling.
    China, Iran, Philippines, Jordan, Lebanon, Korea, Japan, Taiwan... you name it.

    I hope the mods would push through this thread.
    thanks guys .

    how do you think your country will do in the upcoming FIBA Asia 2009?

    Philippines, because it's my country. Philippines will be a lot tougher and bigger compared to the last team formed in 2007.

    and hey there's no more Marc Caguioa and Jimmy Alapag, ironic is that they were the leading performers for our NT last time around.

    'mga pards, ok lng ba to? kasi baka na spoil ko na ung NT natin, paki sabi lng ieedit ko nlng'.
    ..Impossible is nothing, Just Do It!..
    ..you're bringing the name in front of your jersey, not the one at the back..

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    I am predicting Kazakhstan would be a team to watch come 2009. With the continuos improvement of 6'10 Anton Ponomarev, am seeing this former Soviet Republic finally making a serious bid to challenge the usual Asian Basketball Powers for the FIBA-Asia crown now worn by Iran. A number of their other players are playing in Russia and in other former Soviet states, this would really improve their competiveness,

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    Quote Originally Posted by nardy
    I am predicting Kazakhstan would be a team to watch come 2009. With the continuos improvement of 6'10 Anton Ponomarev, am seeing this former Soviet Republic finally making a serious bid to challenge the usual Asian Basketball Powers for the FIBA-Asia crown now worn by Iran. A number of their other players are playing in Russia and in other former Soviet states, this would really improve their competiveness,
    I agree with you bro.
    Kazakhstan is a very dangerous team and their progress over the last few years has been very impressive.
    I still think that China and Iran are currently the top 2 teams in Asia followed by a group of teams that consist of Lebanon, Korea, Kazakhstan, Jordan, and the Philippines (Lebanon and Korea though have an advantage over this group in that we have both qualified to previous World Championships and we have the required international experience). Japan, Chinese Taipei, and Qatar also have a slim chance to make it to the quarter finals even though it will be tough.
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    1-China(even without YAO if he doesnt play)
    2-Lebanon(if khatib comes back and they replace vogel or atleast keep him)
    3-Iran
    4-RP(with new center)
    5-South Korea
    6-Jordan
    7-Qatar(unless they get more africans)
    8-Japan
    9-Kazakhaztan
    10-Taiwan
    11-Syria(unless they naturalize a player and get the brazilians/syrians that they coulnt in 2007)

    These will be the results for the top 11 teams , i dont care for 11-16th teams their not even worth my time to write them down

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    Jordan is a good team,with the new naturalized player Mike Christensen and 3 jordanian abroads coming lately the 208cm Center Mitch platt,The 6-5 shooting Guard and Minnesota Div 1 NCAA Jamal Abu Shamala and 6'1 Arkansas team Imad Qahwash.

    As for lebanon,we need at least to know if the Tiger is coming back,and if we are gonna get some of our lebanese abroads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniab
    Jordan is a good team,with the new naturalized player Mike Christensen and 3 jordanian abroads coming lately the 208cm Center Mitch platt,The 6-5 shooting Guard and Minnesota Div 1 NCAA Jamal Abu Shamala and 6'1 Arkansas team Imad Qahwash.

    As for lebanon,we need at least to know if the Tiger is coming back,and if we are gonna get some of our lebanese abroads.
    is Joe Vogel returning? Any players from the youth team like Vincent Khoury and AHmad Ibrahim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by interxavierxxx
    is Joe Vogel returning? Any players from the youth team like Vincent Khoury and AHmad Ibrahim?
    Joe may return to the team,nothing confirmed yet.
    Ahmad is busy in US But he will return to lebanon to play for the youth team again next year with the new coach Paul Coughter.
    Vincent,i highly doubt.The guy might stop balling.

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    my ranking

    Tier 1
    China

    Tier 2
    Iran Lebanon South Korea (any order)

    Tier 2·5
    Kazakhstan Jordan

    Tier 3
    Taiwan Qatar Japan Philippines (any order)

    Tier 4-5
    ...........


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    Kazakhstan

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniab
    Joe may return to the team,nothing confirmed yet.
    Ahmad is busy in US But he will return to lebanon to play for the youth team again next year with the new coach Paul Coughter.
    Vincent,i highly doubt.The guy might stop balling.
    What about El Khatib bro? Will he play again too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigas
    What about El Khatib bro? Will he play again too?
    Im sure he will be back,he's very young to retire...just 29-30 years..still can play for at least 3-4 years.
    during the summer he reduced his weight,and now he's back in shape..yesterday he posted a 24pts against a team from KSA.



    he will be back
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    Quote Originally Posted by joesmoove059
    ok 2007 championships is now history, let's start the conversation and arguments all over again in this thread!
    let's keep the rivalry rolling.
    China, Iran, Philippines, Jordan, Lebanon, Korea, Japan, Taiwan... you name it.

    I hope the mods would push through this thread.
    thanks guys .

    how do you think your country will do in the upcoming FIBA Asia 2009?

    Philippines, because it's my country. Philippines will be a lot tougher and bigger compared to the last team formed in 2007.

    and hey there's no more Marc Caguioa and Jimmy Alapag, ironic is that they were the leading performers for our NT last time around.

    'mga pards, ok lng ba to? kasi baka na spoil ko na ung NT natin, paki sabi lng ieedit ko nlng'.
    i don't have a good feeling abt this tournament, things aren't looking pretty for us right now and there are actually 3 teams (if not more) that can perform better than Lebanon.

    So good luck for us, we might need it this time

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    lebanon and syria will qualify from waba after waba only have 3 places, jordan already qualified after winning stankovic cup.the tournament is in syria so the lebanese and syrian teams will win. then in china we will be in final, if we have a fine day we will beat china. we're coming for you............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charbel Sakr
    i don't have a good feeling abt this tournament, things aren't looking pretty for us right now and there are actually 3 teams (if not more) that can perform better than Lebanon.

    So good luck for us, we might need it this time
    Well at least there is someone else that thinks that we're not in the best of conditions. I honestly believe that even with our full roster available (including Vogel and Khatib) we're still way behind China and to a lesser extent Iran. Jordan is preparing and naturalizing players left and right. Korea is always a threat. Kazakhstan and Philippines are on the rise. And we're still where we are .
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider
    lebanon and syria will qualify from waba after waba only have 3 places, jordan already qualified after winning stankovic cup.the tournament is in syria so the lebanese and syrian teams will win. then in china we will be in final, if we have a fine day we will beat china. we're coming for you............
    With the level of bball that we've been playing since the last World Championships in 2006 I don't see this day coming anytime soon
    We still have a long way to go to catch up with China (Maybe in 5 years with players like Bassel Bawji, Ahmad Ibrahim) and after Yao Ming retires from the Chinese NT, then we might have a very small chance of beating China.

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    "Bahrain Loses First Match (by Yousef Ahmed)

    BAHRAIN suffered a disheartening 67-75 defeat at the hands of Kuwait yesterday in their opening game of the basketball competition in the 19th Gulf Cup taking place in Oman, reports PATRICK SALOMON.

    The Bahrainis were thoroughly outplayed in the tie, played at the Nizwa Sports Complex, often looking lost in a chaotic offensive scheme while allowing big gaps in their porous defence.

    The nationals should have went down by a bigger margin, but successive three-pointers from small forward Mahmood Ghuloom late in the fourth, and a triple at the final buzzer from veteran enforcer Yasser bu Naffour, cut the losing deficit to single digits.

    In Bahrain's loss, the nationals appeared to take to the court without the team chemistry head coach Walter Pereira praised them for prior to the tournament. Players often took it to themselves to make a play, but eventually wound up turning the ball over or forcing a bad shot.

    They began the contest in promising fashion, taking the lead on back-to-back three-pointers from Manama Club teammates Mohammed Hussain and Ghuloom, before conceding a narrow four-point deficit at the end of the first (14-18).

    The Kuwaitis then began to pull away in the second period with their superior spacing and ball movement. They built a comfortable 10-point advantage (34-24) at the interval, and they would never look back.

    The victors maintained their strong showing to start the second half, when their Bahraini counterparts struggled mightily to find a basket. The nationals managed just another 11 points in the entire third, when they went down by as many as 20 points (31-51), but managed to close with two straight field goals to cut the gap to 16 (35-51) heading into the fourth.

    The Bahrainis attempted one last fight back in the final canto, cutting the lead to 10 points (41-51) on a driving lay-up from Hussain with more than eight minutes still to play. The young guard was also sent to the line on the play, but he failed to convert his free-throw, and the missed opportunity was succeeded by two straight Kuwait baskets which extended their lead to 14 (55-41).

    The Bahrainis failed to further threaten their opponents late on, and finally conceded the opening day loss in what should have been a winnable game.

    Bahrain's only players to make significant contributions in the losing effort were star big man Ahmed Al Mutawa (199-F/C-81, college: Broward CC) who had a double double with 15 points and 11 rebounds, Mahmud Ghuloom with 20 points and great hustle plays by Omran Abdulredha from Manama Club"

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    Anyway the Philippine team will be desperate this tournament because we have more older veteran players. We have still few talented here. And also have proganda coaches here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel23 View Post
    Anyway the Philippine team will be desperate this tournament because we have more older veteran players. We have still few talented here. And also have proganda coaches here.
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    bahrein oman110-52

    kuwait-UAE 68-66
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    "Bahrain to hot for Oman (by Yousef Ahmed)

    BAHRAIN crushed Oman 110-52 to claim their first victory in the basketball competition of the 19th Gulf Cup, being played in Oman, writes PATRICK SALOMON. The victors revived their slim medal hopes with the result, and also virtually secured their qualification for the Fiba Asia Championship for Men, to be played in China in August later this year.

    Bahrain thoroughly outclassed the hosts in the game, played at Muscat's Nizwa Sports Complex. The 58-point winning margin was also their biggest lead of the contest, and it bettered the 49-point (102-53) thrashing the Omanis received from defending champions the UAE earlier this week.

    The Emiratis, meanwhile, were stunned in yesterday's other game by Kuwait, who won a squeaker 68-66. It was the Kuwaitis' second triumph in the competition, as they almost certainly secured second spot ahead of the UAE and now trail only undefeated title-favourites Qatar.

    Bahrain's win was a pleasant turn-around from their opening night loss to Kuwait, when they looked to be a completely different team.

    The nationals, coached by Brazilian Walter Pereira, played with a quick pace, pushing the tempo at every opportunity while using quick ball movement in the half-court set to thwart the opposing defence. On the other end, they did an excellent job preventing penetration and had complete control on the defensive glass, holding the Omanis to just one attempt per possession.

    The Bahrainis were also quick to switch defenders when needed, giving their opponents no easy looks at the basket.

    Bahrain raced out to a quick lead at the start of the game, and never took their foot off the gas whether playing with their starting five or bench squad. They scored 26 points in the first quarter alone, while holding Oman to just 12.

    Star players Mahmood Ghuloom (187-G-79), Ahmed Al Mutawa (199-F/C-81, college: Broward CC), and Hussain Shaker spearheaded their strong performance coming out of the gate, which helped them go up 51-30 at the interval.

    Bahrain looked even stronger starting the second half, greatly adding to their advantage with a 37-point third period.

    Ghuloom, Mohammed Hussain, and Ahmed Abdulaziz were the protagonists. Ghuloom scored on a breakaway lay-up with less than two minutes to go in the period to take an 84-43 advantage - the first time they went ahead by 40 or more points. Hussain then converted his own fast-break lay-up before the quarter buzzer to put the Bahrainis ahead 88-44 heading into the final canto.

    Starting the fourth, Sadeq Mahdi buried a long three-pointer to put Bahrain ahead by 47 (91-44), and then baskets from Abdulaziz and Omran Abdulredha on their next two possessions gave them their first 50-point lead of the game (96-46) with more than half the period still remaining.

    Al Mutawa later put his stamp on the proceedings, scoring on an uncontested tomahawk slam dunk in transition for a 102-52 lead with two minutes left. He scored 7 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.

    Ahmed Malallah (188-F-71) Dominated throughout the game Leading his team while Mohammed Qurban and Mohammed Quwayed then made their own contributions to Bahrain's end-game assault, before Al Mutawa made one of two free-throws with 20 seconds remaining to peg the final score and cap the lopsided win.

    Ghuloom finished with 19 points leading all scorers for Bahrain, who had another five players in double figures. Abdulaziz added 16 while Malallah and Shaker had 13 apiece. Hussain pitched in with 12 points and Qurban 11.

    All of Bahrain's players received minutes in the game. The nationals next face off with Qatar tomorrow, while Oman take on Kuwait".

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    ...i hope RP Will be on the top 3
    again

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