Turkish Prospects

[TurkfromGermany]

Egehan Arna was/is one of the most talented players of the 95-97 generation, he is underrated. I wouldn´t be surprised if Egehan will end up this season as one of the best turkish performers of the league. Sehmus Hazer can contribute at NT but Egehan not, this is key, but after 1-2 seasons Egehan could be an important player for NT.

Disappointments are normal in this turkish system. Become a good player without playingtime...why is Bogdan Bogdanovic this player, because he led Partizan and then...step by step. In turkish system even a club like Galatasaray not giving a player like Yigit Arslan enough opportunities, now even Baris Ermis is there to steal Yigit important opportunities, this is turkish bb........Another big problem is turkish players have no vision, best last example is Ömer Faruk Yurtseven, lost 2 years for nothing. Always bad decisions, in NCAA Kriisa will have the ball in his hands, Tubelis and (Batcho) as big stars and our Tibet Deniz Görener will wait in the courners for the 3, this is typical turkish bb, without creativity/activity, just a helper.

If we compare the 96 generation with the 04 generation we can see the biggest difference at one point = creating the own shot. Only Okben could create his own shot, no Mert Cevik, no Yigit Arslan, no Ediz Oktay, no Berk Ugurlu, no Dogus Özdemiroglu, no Kadir Bayram, no (Tolga Gecim). If we look at the 04 generation almost all g/f can create its own shot, this is a revolution in turkish bb and stop creating helper-mentality.

Bandirma has the best youth system by far, not Efes. It would be a huge lost for turkish bb. BJK will get even the 2006-7 generation of bandirma with star-prospects like Yagiz Aksu(SG), Demir Dogan(PF), especially Demir Dogan is very special for turkish standarts. Alperen Sengün & Yigit Hamza Mestoglu are the most skillfull turkish bigs, the reason is because of Bandirma system and Demir Dogan is a huge prospect because of the Bandirma school, in Istanbul he would be never so skillfull. BJK even wants the incredibly talented but very small 05 PG Özgür Cengiz.

[Toruko]

The 1999 born SG/SF Muhaymin Mustafa signed with the greek A1 club Ionikos Nikaias BK. He played for Tofas last season and changes the country because he wants a major role in his team. So 25-30 minutes and 15-20 ball usage. He was told from Turkish teams that he is too young and would get just a bench role.

* Hiçbir Türk ana rolde değil. Buna Melih Abi, Doğuş Abi de dahil... Bizim gibi daha genç oyunculara ise inisiyatif ya geliyor, ya da gelmiyor. Sahaya girdiğinizde fazla krediniz yok. Oyuna iyi başlamak zorundasınız. Bu genel bir durum. Ben TOFAŞ işe Eurocup'ta 15 dakika süre almayı başardım ve çoğundan şanslıydım ama hep daha fazlasını umut ettim, ana rol oyuncusu olmayı kendimehedef olarak belirledim.
* Yabancılar Türk Basketbolu'nun ana rol oyuncuları. Onların kredisi var ve kafaları rahat. Hata da yapsalar sahada kalacaklarını biliyorlar.
* 18 yaşındaki bir Amerikalı ile bir Türk oyuncu arasında büyük fark yok. Sonrasında onlar NCAA'de oynuyor, Türkler kenarda oturuyor. 22-23 yaşına gelindiğinde ise Amerikalıların gerek basketbol, gerekse fiziksel açıdan büyük farklılığı oluyor ve onlarla rekabet zorlaşıyor. Türkiye bu soruna bir çözüm bulmak zorunda. Efes genç takımında top kullanıyor, 25 sayı atıyordum. Genç yaşım bitince rolüm değişti. Genç yaşını dolduran oyuncu kendisinden 4-5 yaş büyük yabancılarla nasıl yarışabilir?
* Yunanistan'a para için değil, daha fazla oynamak için gidiyorum. İstanbul'da kalıp ailemle birlikte olmayı ve bu sayede daha rahat yaşamayı tercih edebilirdim. Türkiye'den maddi açıdan çok daha iyi teklifler vardı ama ben oynamayı seçtiğim için Yunanistan alternatifini değerlendirdim. Konuştuğum kulüplerden "Savunma yapasın, 3 numaranın back up'ı olursun" yanıtını aldım. TOFAŞ'a gelirken de Efes'ten alabileceğimin çok azına razı olmuştum. Basketbolcu isen oynamaktan zevk almalısın. Memur değilim ki paramı alıp oturayım.
* Kişisel olarak pandemiyi iyi geçirdim, kuvvetlendim, 5 kilo aldım, şutumu geliştirdim.

He here explains what the problem we have in Turkey. He is a very solid defender with his active legs and wingspan of 210cm and a very solid shooter who can also create for himself. Court vision and passing is very weak.

[Basketball1]

Unfortunately Adem Bona got an injury in the U17 training camp. He will be out for a half year due to a shoulder injury. No U17 wc and U18 EC for him this year.

What kind of shoulder injury was it?

[Toruko]

What kind of shoulder injury was it?

Its a hyperextention of the shoulder ligaments. Nothing torned.

[Basketball1]

Its a hyperextention of the shoulder ligaments. Nothing torned.

Thank you! Did he get surgery? Do we know what ligaments? And will he be playing?

[Toruko]

Did he get surgery?

Yes but precautionary

Do we know what ligaments?

Its not the NBA, just a 17 year old kid so no

And will he be playing?

A couple weeks later after the season starts

[Basketball1]

Unfortunately Adem Bona got an injury in the U17 training camp. He will be out for a half year due to a shoulder injury. No U17 wc and U18 EC for him this year.

Also. Do you know anything of the Amar Sylla injury in Belgium. Trying to learn more about it. Cannot find much information online.

[Toruko]

Looks like he trained during off season

[TurkfromGermany]

https://www.eurosport.com.tr/basketbol/gelecek_sto7821679/story.shtml

This interview shows how intelligent Yigit Hamza Mestoglu is. Nowadays you can´t find a 16 years old player which knows that Bodiroga was the best player, his choices Tim Duncan and Mike Batiste are impressive too.

He was the most skilled turkish big in Turkey but here he says in Turkey he played as traditionnel big, this is not correct. For a turkish big he was super skilled and had the freedom in his team, in Bandirma. He dominated the U15 championship in 2018 with 14 years and was MVP and clear cut best player, you can follow the games on youtube, you can´t find a turkish big with this offense.

Now in Spain, of course he will play even more modern bb and he will work on his physical shortcomings. This video https://twitter.com/Kuzeykg/status/1293602597149052933 shows a much fitter Yigit Hamza Mestoglu. Height is the key for him.
The most skilled turkish bigs are from Bandirma, Alperen Sengün, Hamza Mestoglu and the best turkish prospect Demir Dogan(06), most likely he will end up as 210-215 PF with PG skillset.

Efes has now 3 big prospects. Berkay Dönmez(05, SF/SG), Mehmet Efe Demirel(05, PF/C), Muhammet Emin Kara(06, C). Last season Emin Kara showed a bit face up game but this season he was traditionnel big........typical Efes, for Efes is development not important. In Bandirma all 3 players would play complete different style......

[Toruko]

Lol, our girls in VB won the U19 European Championship by beating Serbia 3:2. I should really switch watching women VB. Anyway, happy victory day to my fellow Turks and congrats to the girls.

[Toruko]

In the first game of the Cevat Soydas Tournament BJK defeats Tofas Bursa 99:95.

BJK: First of all the impressions about Alperen Sengün. He is surely stronger than last season. Can fight with any big in BSL now despite being newly 18. He finished with 19 points with 9/10, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks. Especially 3 of his 4 assists were very impressive. He has some Jokic in him. The only problem that I saw... he could have problems with his not very slow but slow legs.

Would say he is already the best center in BSL and last doubts about his readiness next season for EL also vanished.

Berk Ugurlu was the guy on Tofas side despite having made 2 big mistakes at the end.

[TurkfromGermany]

If you want success then you need big talent. You must development your best talents in the right way. If you want success then you need Alperen Sengün, but not with the playingstyle like in Besiktas. His body in this season is better but he needs to lose more weight and he must start to take 3s, if he doesn't start take 3s then he will never reach the level he could. For the best development he must go immediately to the NBA. In Europe he will always have his impact but as fat, slow with limited offensive style. You need big talent for success in NT.

Good players in preseaon are Göktug Bas(01). Turkish players have no vision, Metecan Birsen, Berkan Durmaz, Burakcan Yildizli, Berk Demir etc. are candidates for PF in NT, all those players have no stabil 3p shot. Without good 3p shot you have no chance for good level as PF. For me it would be not a big surprice if Göktug Bas is a better player in 2 years as this weak PF-material. Göktug Bas shows unbelievably vision for a turkish player, he could stay in Efes and earn 2-3 years good money but he decided to play therefore he is in Ankara. You can´t see such a move from a turkish player, no way. Ismail Karabilen, Tarik Sezgün are the other bigs of the 01 generation and had more potential but both have big weaknesses and not playable as pros at this stage, but Göktug Bas with his development shot and his fearlessness.

Sadik Kabaca(00) showing good things too, too talented for a turkish big. He needs more stability, he must learn how to play etc. Could be one of the best turkish players in some years but could end up as bust too. He ist soft, but not at a Ismail Karabilen, Tarik Sezgün, Egemen Güven, Ayberk Olmaz etc level.

Kilicarslan Senkahya(00) is another big. He will play in the second division this season for Denizli. This player has the best bb-body since Ömer Asik, he is 208-9 with great athleticism, soft touch but no experience. And he is not soft. Could surprice in some years.

https://www.instagram.com/goktug.gucoglu/?hl=de It looks like Göktug Efe Gücoglu(04, SG) will play this year in Turkey, last year he was in the USA. He is a bit unknown but that is not important, he is one of the best turkish talents. His height is not perfect but a real shooter/scorer with massive/strong body but also fast legs, his priority is to shoot but he has fast drives, fearless and strong(fearless and strong is not normal for turkish players). He could be one of the stars of the U19 league(BGL) this year. I´m a big fan of him.

[Toruko]

Wonderful start of Mert Akay in the Serbian league. He was top scorer in the first game of his team with 24 points 3/6 from three, 8 rebounds and 5 assists in 34 minutes. He turned the ball over 4 times but had also 3 steals. The first season was adaptation but this season i expect far better stats. Knocking on the wood we shouldnt get overexited though.

[Katastroika]

Vulikic left for USA so Akay will play a lot this year. He literally has no competition at his spot. That's the most important thing. Their roster will have absolutely no imperative of result (unfortunately) which is again a very big plus for a young point guard. I also expect good games for him.

[Toruko]

Former Bakirköy Basket now Istanbul Basket will play with the youth roster (BGL) of Efes in the second Turkish League (TBL). With this system they had built the 2010 roster but abolished it because it was too expensive.

This is the roster of Istanbul Basket: Enes Bayraktar, Mustafa Mert Tarla, Muhammet Ali Güneş, Yusuf Eren Akbıyık, Enes Gül, Yunus Emre Hamatoğlu, Şevket Gökdemir, Koralp Türk, Karahan Tuan Efeoğlu, Zekeriya Yiğit Tekin, Tolga Kay, Ozan Yılmaz, Tarık Sezgün

It includes 2003 and 2004 guys. Koralp Türk was in the states and might have come back I dont know but if he is back or not. The big written guys can make it to the higher levels/ guys that I like.