Page 17 of 19 FirstFirst ... 71516171819 LastLast
Results 321 to 340 of 362

Thread: Turkish Prospects

  1. #321
    Efes fan Levenspiel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Hungary
    Posts
    7,705
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Outstanding performance from Bandirma in the fiba cl in oaka against AEK.

    Sehmus (Hazer 99 born) had his career night in OAKA. 23 Points with 9/12 fgp 4/6 three pointer. 6 rebounds and 6 assists and 3 steals in addition. Finds always the open man and create often with his speed for others and for himself. Bandirma should give him more occasions to create. I think after this season he is ready for the next step but he should stay in Bandirma with more responsibility for one more year. We need a combo guard like Sloukas and this kid has the talent to become a better player than him.

    My boy sengün (2002 born) wasnt as present as Hazer but good to see him making two important 3 point shots anyway. Putting the ball on the floor gives him tremendous possibilities to finish. Strong, very smart, very nice touch around the rim, even right now very difficult to stop him in one vs one. When the opponents have to fear his outside shot, he is a clear nba prospect.

    Furkan haltali has been impressing me for the last games. I knew he is very strong and can handle any big guy, he is showing a more agile game and scoring abilities. He is not as skilled as Sengün he obviously is a very hard worker. Its really impressive what he has done today considering that he turned 17 one month ago.

    https://twitter.com/twentythreezone/...80459932770304

    The second team of Bandirma "kirmizi" is also in playoff ranking right now. Nonindependent of the outcome Ercan Osmani and Eray Akyuz need a lift to the a team. Eray is a big question mark but he is good enough to give him a chance next season. Bandirma doesnt need more than 3 foreign guys.
    didn't watch the games, but I've been checking the statsheets and I'm quite happy to see these kids finally taking serious roles in the senior level. Banvit has been leading Turkish teams in this, but this year it's a lot more. Tofas (and Ene) also uses youngsters in very significant minutes now. and they deliver (except Bitim, who seemed like he was waking up in the summer, but he's again lost)

    Maybe it's related to economics, but whatever it is, the overall picture is refreshing.
    5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

  2. #322
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    After two weaker games Yurt7 again with a very good performance. Shortly said he was contributing in any aspect of the game. 20 points with 9/14 fgp, 13 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks.

  3. #323
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Tofas won without its 3 big foreign stars in spain with a great defense. Berkan Durmaz was the star of the game. He added 17 points with some crucial shots but his defense was even more determined and surprising.

    Muhaymin Mustafa had also a good game on both ends. He has great skills but cant put them really together and utilize them. His outside shot and his defense make him precious for Tofas but this is nothing comparing his real skills on the court.

  4. #324
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Furk finally had a very solid game with the needed intensity and aggressiveness. Very efficient scoring with a career high 24 points, 6/9 three pointer. He also had another 3 but screen was illegal. I always thought that he would never be a very aggressive player but he showed today that he can also be aggressive when he wants.

    https://twitter.com/bahisistatistik/...57433082445829

    Very hard to predict his ceiling. Want to see him next season with 10 pounds more on his rips.

    Turkish player are taking over slowly but steadily

  5. #325
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Berke Atar (99) left Bandirma and is looking for a domestic or foreign team. Many domestic teams cant make any transfers due to their financial situation.

  6. #326
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    international U16 tournament starts in two days
    participants
    Slovenia, Russia, Serbia, Lithuania, Latvia, Turkey U15, Turkey U16

  7. #327
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    47
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Before 6 months Furkan Haltali was garbage but now he is showing good development, this is youth bb.....i saw Furkan Haltali when he was 13 and he was very interesting because over 195 and this incredible power, his power is out of this world, i´m pretty sure he will be pretty easy the strongest turkish player(stronger as Enes Kanter), even without much weight room. Ramazan Tekin(93) has very strong body too but he is the slowest player in the world(and can´t use his body), with some speed he would play now EL, his touch is 999999999 better as Semih Erden´s but zero speed + low IQ makes him almost useless even in second division. Furkan Haltali has 3 problems, foot speed, reaction-his go to moves are to slow(same problem has Ömer Yurtseven too) and low IQ but Furkan is showing good development.

    Bandirma´s players are untypical for turkish standards, turkish players are pussys but not Bandirma´s. Even physically thin players like Eray Akyüz, Atakan Erdek etc. are not soft players. Super strong are Alperen Sengün and Hamza Mestoglu too and both know how to use that advantage, Furkan Haltali doesn't know how to use that, all 3 are real men, not like other turkish softies. Berke Atar is very strong too but soft, Ömer Yurtseven is not strong and is soft etc.

    You can watch the U16 TBF tournament here https://www.youtube.com/user/tbfmedya

  8. #328
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default



    A really aggressive one

  9. #329
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Berke Atar agreed with the Aba II league team MZT from Macedonia. Maybe a Serb could give a short description of this team. They seem to be a good team and a candidate for ABA I.

  10. #330
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Great win of Bandirma again. Against a veteran team with ricky Ledo Bandirma managed to win in the Basketball CL in Poland and is almost qualified.

    When Bandirma was struggling in the third quarter Alperen Sengün stepped up with 7 consecutive points and a big 3 pointer from the corner. This guy just needs strength. I am super confident about his development. A great prospect!

  11. #331
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Tofas also burried Badalona at home. No sign of living from the great Prepelic, just 2 points the whole game. Nearly all turkish players have contributed very well.

    Especially a very good defensive game of Durmaz (great step up this season) but a big time game was again played by Muhsin Yasar.

    Great contribution of the turks in Eurocup level.

  12. #332
    Efes fan Levenspiel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Hungary
    Posts
    7,705
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Great contribution of the turks in Eurocup level.
    indeed. I wonder what the stimulating factor is. Economics?
    5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

  13. #333
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    indeed. I wonder what the stimulating factor is. Economics?
    This is just one factor of several. Another big factor is time. If you keep working diligently you start contributing with 22/23 (if you are a late bloomer). Economics just forced the teams to look at the bench and it worked. Our money/success ratio is great. Thanks to bandirma, Karsiyaka and Tofas Bursa.

    The next step is not the most difficult one. The gap between Eurocup to Euroleague is big but the jump to the turkish euroleague teams are even bigger. Some guys who have the talent to deliver in euroleague must start with smaller Euroleague teams like Munich, Zalgiris or Oly. Some have the talent some dont. We will see.

  14. #334
    Senior Member CoachZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    4,538
    Country: Serbia

    Default

    Mert Akay is struggling in Dynamic, as I mentioned in the preseason. I didn't like that rotation there and I had a feeling it will hurt him. He has played only 1 game in two month, few days ago and he has lost his starter status, now he is coming off the bench. Kid is a turnover machine, awful shooting and scoring in general.

    Unfortunately, Ulubay had a really significant drop in form after an excellent first half of the season. He has lost his spot in the rotation as a starter, and last 4 games this month he came off the bench, reduced minutes and role. A real pitty...

  15. #335
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    So i had a first serious look at our 2004 born U16 team in the TBF international U16 tournament. Tomorrow are the last games.

    I want to write a bit about couple guys who impressed me during the tournament. I watched all of the games.

    Ege Tan Yildizoglu, born 01.01.04, position PG:

    strength: has a great speed and feeling for the ball, could out dribble anyone and finds the open man in high speed. He gives me real joy during games. Defense is not bad.

    weaknesses: shooting but mechanics seems ok. Decision making could maybe be a problem in the future.

    Efe Tahmaz, born 03.04.2004, position small forward, length 198, current team Partizan Belgrade.

    strength: above average passer especially for a forward, basketball intelligence is very high, can do everything on the court to a certain degree. Shooting is slow but good, makes almost always the right decision, knows when to finish or pass. He has great fundamentals. We really have to thank the Serbs, an experienced eye can immediately recognize the Serbian signature in his game.

    weaknesses, weak body, lack of intensity, lack of strength.


    Eray Büyükcangaz, born 01.01.04, position PG, length 200+cm, current team Karsiyaka:

    Strength: good ball control for his size, can handle the ball very well, his huge wingspan allows him to finish at the rim, has the potential to be a great defender, very active hands to steal the ball from the opponent, uses the open court very well due to his speed, passing is ok for.

    Weaknesses: Decision making, forces the game from time to time too much, shooting is there but streaky.


    Berke Büyüktuncel born September 04, can play both forward positions, length 200+ cm, current team Tofas Bursa:

    strength: speed in combination with size/power. Very enthusiastic guy who can guard all four positions, even Murauskas looked smaller than him. He puts the ball very well for his size and has a good wingspan which allows him to protect the rim. Plays more with his passion and not with his brain. High intense guy.

    weaknesses: doesnt know well when to stop dribbling for the last two steps, finishing at the rim in open court looks a bit weird. He is still very raw but also very young. Shooting is streaky. He has a really weird jump shot.

    Considering his skill set he reminds me of Cedi Osman. Similar strength, similar weaknesses. He probably will become taller than Cedi.

  16. #336
    Senior Member gockun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    898

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    So i had a first serious look at our 2004 born U16 team in the TBF international U16 tournament. Tomorrow are the last games.

    I want to write a bit about couple guys who impressed me during the tournament. I watched all of the games.

    Ege Tan Yildizoglu, born 01.01.04, position PG:

    strength: has a great speed and feeling for the ball, could out dribble anyone and finds the open man in high speed. He gives me real joy during games. Defense is not bad.

    weaknesses: shooting but mechanics seems ok. Decision making could maybe be a problem in the future.

    Efe Tahmaz, born 03.04.2004, position small forward, length 198, current team Partizan Belgrade.

    strength: above average passer especially for a forward, basketball intelligence is very high, can do everything on the court to a certain degree. Shooting is slow but good, makes almost always the right decision, knows when to finish or pass. He has great fundamentals. We really have to thank the Serbs, an experienced eye can immediately recognize the Serbian signature in his game.

    weaknesses, weak body, lack of intensity, lack of strength.


    Eray Büyükcangaz, born 01.01.04, position PG, length 200+cm, current team Karsiyaka:

    Strength: good ball control for his size, can handle the ball very well, his huge wingspan allows him to finish at the rim, has the potential to be a great defender, very active hands to steal the ball from the opponent, uses the open court very well due to his speed, passing is ok for.

    Weaknesses: Decision making, forces the game from time to time too much, shooting is there but streaky.


    Berke Büyüktuncel born September 04, can play both forward positions, length 200+ cm, current team Tofas Bursa:

    strength: speed in combination with size/power. Very enthusiastic guy who can guard all four positions, even Murauskas looked smaller than him. He puts the ball very well for his size and has a good wingspan which allows him to protect the rim. Plays more with his passion and not with his brain. High intense guy.

    weaknesses: doesnt know well when to stop dribbling for the last two steps, finishing at the rim in open court looks a bit weird. He is still very raw but also very young. Shooting is streaky. He has a really weird jump shot.

    Considering his skill set he reminds me of Cedi Osman. Similar strength, similar weaknesses. He probably will become taller than Cedi.
    Did you guys find any source for boxscore of the tournemet?

  17. #337
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gockun View Post
    Did you guys find any source for boxscore of the tournemet?
    https://www.tbf.org.tr/

    Berke Büyüktuncel is named mvp of the tournament.

    Turkey won the TBF U16 tournament, Russia is second and LTU is third.

    Altough Büyüktuncel became MVP the best player was Murauskas in this tournament. Great prospect.

  18. #338
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Great win for Dynamic in the Serbian league against Nepredak (what a nice name in terms of sounds good)

    Akay played 25 minutes coming of the bench and made a double double with 10 points and 10 assists and 4 rebounds and one big steal at the end in addition. On the bad side he made 4 turnover again, Akay needs to work on his free throw shooting and his jump shots. I am a strong believer of this kid.

    Thats why i supported his Serbia adventure because i knew he would get a serious responsibility in crunch times. His steal 1 minute before end forced a unsportsmanlike but he could only made 1 of 2 and got his fifth foul 10 seconds before end.

    Okben Ulubay on the other hand overcome his drought period of the last month and carried his team with 26 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists to overtime. He had 6/14 three pointer. I think he forced the last 2 ones. 2/3 three pointer 4/5 free throw but the team lost at the end to cedevita.

    I am happy for both of the guys.
    Last edited by Toruko; 02-02-2020 at 05:20 PM.

  19. #339
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    47
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    I have never seen a better PG-performance from a turkish PG than U15 player Özgür Cengiz. This kid has amazing talent, just crazy talent but he is not very interesting for me because he is PG(most difficult position), very small(170+) and too young. He is Gelisim Koleji player, best place for young players, next year U19 league and then 2nd division etc.

    Berkay Dönmez(SF) is the most important prospect in the 05 generation for TBF at this stage. Therefore he was the main ballhandler in the beginning of the tournament. He could only show his potential in the last game.

    Kaan Berk Tarla(SG) is good but mature.

    Alp Sarikaya(SG) has very big upside if he grows.

    Tolga Öz(PF) is just 195. Before 14 months he moved to Efes because Efes expected that he will reach 205-210. Very talented player but too small for PF.

    Evren Demirci(PF/C) is solid but Mehmet Efe Demirel(PF/C) & Halil Ibrahim Aksoy(C/PF) are the bigs with upside in the 05 generation, both are very interesting players and in 1-2 years both could reach another level.

    Tolga Öz & Mehmet Efe Demirel don´t get any playing time in Efes. That shows again, for Efes is player development not important.

    We could also see the great talent of Demir Dogan & Emin Kara, but they are too young.

  20. #340
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    1,585
    Country: Turkey

    Default

    Bandirma beat in the last game of the CL group and Sengün my god what can you say about this guy? He had 11 points 5/5 of his two pointer with 11 points, 4 rebounds, one assist and one block with 17 years. There is only one slight problem. He sometime causes offensive fouls because he is too heavy but he got way faster than he was one year ago.

    Hell become a multilevel scorer when he gets an outside shot. He is a gem.

    This Erkan Yilmaz is a bum. Yeah his moves looks great, he is athletic and hustles but he is useless in set offense. He cant pass, he cant shoot, he is a turnover machine.

    Hazer is kinda a headless chicken sometimes, he runs towards the rim without thinking and reading the game. His one on one capacity is an advantage but he needs to gain weight and choose the right time. He is beside Sengün the guy with the highest ceiling.

    Rest of the guys are not ready for the first team. Kabaca, Atakan Erdek, Furkan Haltali. The last two could contribute next season well but Kabaca still needs a certain time in the tbl. His problem finishing at the rim worries me a bit, he has great tools to be a good power forward though.

    I want to see Sengün really with a top pg like calathes or Micic. He would be a double double machine.

Page 17 of 19 FirstFirst ... 71516171819 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •