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    (Originally posted by asdzas 04-01-2006, 05:10 AM)

    Edu Marianno- 22 years-old- 6'6''(1,97)-SG Team: Uniara
    Edu has improved a lot. He always was a kid with a lot of potential, but I never imagined that he could play this well so soon. He is a a very athletic player, who is a very good scorer. He is a good defender and is very fast.
    Comparation: Oscar Torres(maybe better in 3 years).

    Some stats this season
    Win versus Santa Maria/Serc
    Edu 27pts 10boards 6asts 7steals
    Win versus Jundiaí
    Edu 33pts 10boards 4asts 5steals
    Win versus UNIFEOB
    Edu 33pts 12boards 5asts 4steals


    André(Dedé) Martins- 20 years-old- 6'6''(1,97)- SG/SF Team: Uniara
    Dedé always played for the brazilian national team(U-21, U-17). He is not in the same level of his teammate Edu, but he has a lot of talent. Dedé is a very good ballhander, good passer, good offensive player, but he has to improve his defense.
    Comparation:Gordon Giricek

    Some stats thie season
    Win versus Jundiaí
    Dedé 20pts 8boards 1steal
    loss versus Keltek
    Dedé 21pts 4asts 6boards 2steals

    Alexandre Nascimento(Olivinha)- 23 years-old- 6'9''(2,06)- PF/SF team: Telemar
    Olivinha is a good player. He has been playing pro basketball since he was 18. He is a very good shooter(3pts and 2pts), he has good offensive moves and play an average defense. Can play 3 and 4
    Comparation: Leo Gutierrez with better low-post moves.

    Some stats this season
    loss versus Limeira
    Alexandre 15pts 9boards 2asts 1steal
    Win versus Paysandu
    Alexandre 16pts 6boards
    Win versus Teresinense
    Alexandre 28pts 3boards 3steals 2asts
    Win versus Hebraica
    Alexandre 31pts 10boards 7asts 1steal

    Jonathan dos Santos- 18yeards-old-6'7''(2,00)- SG/SF Team: Paulistano
    I had just saw him playing twice, but he seems to be a very, very good prospect. The kid is tall for his position(SG), he is very athletic and has very good skills. He is a very good dunker and a good shooter.
    Comparation: James Jones

    Some stats
    Win versus joinville
    Jonathan 9pts 3boards 1steal
    Win versus Americana
    Jonathan 14pts 3boards 2asts
    loss versus São Paulo
    Jonathan 13pts 5boards 1ast 1steal
    Loss versus Unitri
    Jonathan 14pts 2boards 2asts 1steal

    Murilo Rosa- 22years-old- 6'10''(2,08)-PF team: Franca
    With all the injuries that Brazil had to deal in the last WC Qualifying championship, Murilo was on the roster that played the championship last year, and with Anderson Varejão's injury during the championship, Murilo was a starter on the team that won the championship. He is a very good offensive player and a good rebounder. His defense is not very good yet but he has improved it a lot since I first saw him playing.
    Comparation: Luis Scola( not nearly as good as Scola, but their games are very similar)

    Some stats:
    Win versus Londrina
    Murilo 31pts 7boards 1ast 1block
    Win versus Pinheiro
    Murilo 23pts 6boards 3steals 1block
    Win versus Sport
    Murilo 18pts 13boards
    Win versus Brasília/Universo
    Murilo 33pts 10boards 3asts
    Loss versus Rio Claro
    Murilo 15pts 13boards 6asts 1block 1steal
    Win versus londrina
    Murilo 13pts 8boards 4blocks 3steals 4asts

    Lucas Tischer- 22yeards-old- 6'10''(2,08)-PF/C Team: Uberlândia/Telemig
    Lucas played the summer league for the Suns this season and they liked him. The Suns signed him and let he play here in Brazil. Lucas is playing for probably the best team in Latin America, so his playing time is not what he probably was expecting. Lucas is very strong, he is a good defender and rebounder. His offensive game is very raw and he is working on it. I saw him playing last night and he played very well.
    Comparation: Ben Wallace

    Some stats
    loss verus Ajax
    Lucas 15pts 9boards 2blocks 4steals
    win versus Joinville
    Lucas 11pts 6boards 1block in 12minutes


    Douglas dos Reis- 20 years-old- 6'7''(2,00) SF/SG team: Pitagoras/Minas
    I saw him playing 3 times. He is fast, he is a very good shooter and he understand the game. His defense is good, but he is very inconsistent yet.
    Comparation: Alain Digbeu

    Some stats
    win versus Pinheiros
    Douglas 13pts 6boards 4steals
    loss versus Franca
    Douglas 15pts 4boards 1steal
    Win versus Recife
    Douglas 19pts 2boards 1steal

    Paulo Prestes- 17years-old- 6'10''(2,09)- C/PF Team:R.Preto/COC

    Paulo is a very strong kid. He is already starting some games for R.Preto(semifinalist of the south-american league and one of the best brazilian teams). He is a good defender and rebounder. His offensive skills are good for his age.Paulo is going to be a very, very good player in the future. Amazing prospect.
    Comparation: Eddy Curry(better defenser and rebounder).In the future

    Some stats
    Win versus minas
    Paulo 18pts 15boards 1block 1steal
    loss versus Rio Claro
    Paulo 10pts 12boards 1steal
    Win versus Pinheiros
    Paulo 18pts 10boards 2blocks 1ast 1steal
    Win versus Bauru
    Paulo 15pts 8boards


    Jefferson Antônio- 22years-old 6'10''(2,09) SF/PF Team: R.Preto/COC
    Another player that was part of the brazilian national team last year.Jefferson was called for the brazilian national team because of his size for his position. He is a good shooter, he can play inside and outside and his defense has improved since he signed with R.Preto.
    Comparation: Jared Jeffries

    Some stats
    win versus Londrina
    Jefferson 15pts 5boards 1block 3steals 1ast
    win versus Sport
    Jefferson 17pts 10boards 2steals 3asts


    latter I will put others prospects

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    (Originally posted by asdzas 04-01-2006, 09:25 AM)

    Gutemberg(Guto) de Souza- 22 years-old- 6'6''(1,96)-SG Team: Flamengo
    Guto is a already a good player. He is a very good shooter and a good defensive player. He has improved a lot in the last years and surprised me, in the beginning of his career I never imagined he could became a good player.
    Comparation: Leandro Palladinno(better defender)

    Some stats
    Win versus Brusque
    Guto 22pts 2boards 1steal
    Win versus São Paulo
    Guto 17pts 3boards 2asts

    Caio de Souza- 18years-old-6'4'' SG team: Pinheiros
    Some stats
    Win versus Sport
    Caio 24pts 4boards 2asts

    Vitor Faverani-17years-old- 6'11''(2,10)-C/PF- team: Axarquia(LEB2) on loan from Unicaja
    Some stats
    loss versus Huesca on LEB 2
    Vitor 8pts 9boards
    win versus Lliria on LEB 2
    Vitor 11pts 5boards 2blocks
    Win versus Celso Miguez on LEB 2
    Vitor 22pts 7boards 2steals

    Luis Felipe Gruber-20years-old-6'9''(2,06)- SF- Team: Castellon(LEB2) on loan from Etosa Alicante
    Some stats
    loss versus Cornella on LEB 2
    Luis 14pts 4boards
    loss versus Felix on LEB 2
    Luis 19pts 7boards 1ast
    Win versus Akasvayu on LEB 2
    Luis 15pts 8boards 4steals 1ast
    loss versus Ourense
    Luis 11pts 13boards 4asts 1block
    win versus Burgos
    Luis 17pts 9boards 3asts 1block


    Rafael Hettsheimeir- 19years-old- 6'10''(2,08)- PF/C- Team: Akasvayu(LEB2) on lon from Girona
    some stats
    Loss versus Gandia
    Rafael 15pts 6boards 1ast 1block
    loss versus Burgos
    Rafael 23pts 5boards 1ast 2blocks
    win versus Lliria
    Rafael 16pts 7boards
    win versus Canarias
    Rafael 17pts 9boards 1block
    win versus Burgos
    Rafael 20pts 7boards

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    (Originally posted by asdzas)

    Here are the brazilians selected for the basketball without border in Puerto Rico.

    Rafael Rodrigues- C- 7'1''- team: COC-Brazil
    André Aidar- C- 6'11''- team: Pinheiros-Brazil
    Rafael Sabag- PF/C- 6'10''- team: Paulistano-Brazil
    Douglas Nunes-SF/PF- 6'9''- team: inheiros-Brazil
    Bruno Ferreira- SF/SG- 6'7''- team: Uniara-Brazil
    Bruno Modanez-SG- 6'6''- team:inheiros-Brazil
    José Duarte-SG-6'4''- team: Limeira-Brazil
    Rodrigo Maistro-PG/SG-6'3''- team:COC-Brazil
    Thyago Taroni-PG-6'1''- team:inheiros-Brazil

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    I was thinking to myself the other day, it is amazing, how many good players and prospects the Brazilian have, especially in the post:

    Nene, Varejao, Araujo, Splitter, Lucas Tischer, Paulo Prestes, Vitor Tatsh, Caio Torres, Rafael Hettsheimer, Bruno Ferreira, Thyago Alao, etc. Amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokinen
    (Originally posted by asdzas 04-01-2006, 05:10 AM)
    Do you think Paulo Prestes would benefit like J.P. Batista did by playing college basketball in the United States and go NBA from there? Is Paulo a pro now, or is he still amateur?

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    Every player should go to the US if they have the chance, IMHO...

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    I was digging the forum and found this great thread with some pretty usefull information.

    Here is some more stuff I found in DraftExpress regarding NBA Draft eligible Brazilian players:

    Caio Torres C
    21 years old, 6' 11" 260lbs.
    Melilla Baloncesto

    Vitor Faverani PF/C
    20 years old, 6' 11" 233lbs.
    Unicaja Málaga

    Paulao Prestes C
    21 years old, 6' 10" 265lbs.
    Unicaja Málaga

    Rafael Mineiro SF/PF
    20 years old, 6' 10" 220lbs.
    COC Ribeirao Preto

    Betinho Duarte SG
    20 years old, 6' 5" 190lbs.
    Winner/ Limeira

    Augusto Lima PF
    17 years old, 6' 9" 205lbs.
    Unicaja Málaga

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    Great list ¹²³. I think the top three have the most chances right now of becoming good dominant players. Prestes is a monster on court, I wonder if Monsalve will start calling him up to the senior team.
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    Paulo Prestes had his first Euroleague game this season with Unicaja and tallied 10 pts (5/5 FG) adding 8 rebounds in 23 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    Paulo Prestes had his first Euroleague game this season with Unicaja and tallied 10 pts (5/5 FG) adding 8 rebounds in 23 minutes.
    Great stuff. Brazil just have to develop some backcourt talent now.

    Edit: Vitor Faverani also scored 16 points in 17 minutes in the same game.

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    Some top prospects:

    Lauro Gonçalves (2.09m, 17 years old, Náutico Capibaribe)
    Cristiano Felício (2.06m, 16 years old, Jacareí)
    Arthur Casimiro (2.05m, 17 years old, Grêmio Náutico União)
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    Centre Rafael Hettsheimeir, 23, was named MVP of Spanish ACB's round 13. He scored 23 points (8/10 FG, 7/10 FT), grabbed 11 rebounds, dished 2 assists, stole one ball and blocked a shot for Obradoiro against Gran Canaria. His team lost.
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    And I think I know the reason why there is all this great front-court talents coming from Brazil. Usually they are easy to spot (the kids are really tall and that's what european clubs and american universities are searching around here). They usually head to Europe or USA at a very young age and there they can get proper training and a good environment to develop their talents and focusing on playing basketball. The back-court talents are harder to notice and the majority keeps playing in Brazil were the structure and the trainings aren't in the same level as Europe or USA.

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    Found some videos.

    Vitor Faverani



    Cool video of Vitor:



    Paulão Prestes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    Really nice article. Thanks for posting, rikhardur!

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    Really cool interview with Brazilian brand new prospect, Lucas "Bebê". Link in portuguese.

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    From here.

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