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    Quote Originally Posted by Federoy
    You're right. Logistically, it would be difficult to have 16 participants playing in a three week span
    Yeah, 12 teams seems to be the standard for most team sports in the Olympics. Soccer does have 16 and starts before the opening ceremonies, but that's sort of a different animal because the teams require more rest between games and it's usually spread out around the country in multiple venues.

    Why should these two countries year in and year out be given an automatic birth?
    Like I said, combining Oceania with Asia would be an okay idea, I just don't see why you would split up Asia. New Zealand is better than any of the Middle East/Central Asian teams, why would you make it harder for New Zealand to qualify and easier for those teams to qualify?

    Lebanon pulled off some good results in 2006 but they got hammered in 2002 and this year, Qatar also got killed in 2006, Iran will be hard-pressed to win a game this year. That certainly isn't a group of teams that deserves a guaranteed spot in the Olympics. Have any of them ever beaten a full-strength China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX
    Have any of them ever beaten a full-strength China?
    The only Asian team that has ever beaten a full-strength China since 1997 is S. Korea, and they did it 4times. 1997 Asian Championship, 1997 East Asian Games, 2001 East Asian Games, 2002 Asian Games. Since Yao went to NBA, China "A" NT never lost to any Asian team (including 2006 Asian Games when Yao was absent).
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    i think that if it would be fair, then we should have 4 none european teams in olympics

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    Let´s face it, if there weren´t 6 Euro teams in the Olympics, a lot of Europeans would be upset because of the prevailing attitude that Europeans play the best basketball. Since half of the teams are Euro, nobody is complaining.

    Fortunately, most of the European teams fought for a spot, which makes the unequal geographic distribution easier to understand. Unfortunately, there are always good, strong, deserving teams left out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilya
    Do you realise what you're saying? Let me make it clear for you. You're saying that since European teams are so hard to beat, you (or I don't know who) should be given a spot in the Olympics, which would be taken from a better team (one you couldn't beat in the qualifying tournament).

    Sorry mate, but you had your chance and it was up to you. What should other countries, that have never been represented in the Olympics basketball, be saying? The spot was there for grabs. I liked the Puerto Rican team, but they made their own luck. Too bad.
    I am not saying that european are hard to beat, I am saying that the calendar was in favor of the European, Puerto Rico played versus 4 european teams arrow to try to qualyfied and that is to difficult in a nockout stage.

    In America always hace 3 berth to the Olympics, this year only 2. I think Greece was a team over the other NT in this preolympics and should have a automatic position in the Olympics.

    If the Olympicsis created to the best basketball teams in the world, what's up with Angola and Iran?
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    The 2000 Olympics had 6 European teams and only 2 from the Americas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX
    The 2000 Olympics had 6 European teams and only 2 from the Americas.
    And the 2004? and the other Olympics?
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Can't complain really, PR and Brazil had the same chance as anyone else to qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown
    Can't complain really, PR and Brazil had the same chance as anyone else to qualify.
    Thats true, but that is not my issue.
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF
    Thats true, but that is not my issue.
    So what is your point exactly? The European teams that were already qualified (Russia and Lithuania) had to beat other European teams to qualify and the ones participating in the pre-Olympic tournament had to beat again other European teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fasoulaki
    Lets come back to this discussion when we see how many european and non european teams will qualify for the quarter final of the olympic basketball tournament!
    We shall see. I bet 100% of the teams from the Americas will be in the quarter-finals and semi-finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadeceus
    We shall see. I bet 100% of the teams from the Americas will be in the quarter-finals and semi-finals.
    Name me one team from the Americas or elsewhere that deserved to be in the Olympics more than any of the participating Euro teams. I honestly could not think of any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWSN-Men
    So what is your point exactly? The European teams that were already qualified (Russia and Lithuania) had to beat other European teams to qualify and the ones participating in the pre-Olympic tournament had to beat again other European teams.
    Ok, so that the european teams now are better than the other teams in the world, FIBA will give europe more spots in all the events?, common, how the teams in other countries will progress in basketball?, how?, we will contineu giving europe more advantage in world basketball??, sure they earned, but I think other deserved a spot, I think that.

    You cant compare Puerto Rico with Lithuania and Russia, they always play in Europe they are from Europe. I think Puerto Rico deserved a spot in the Olympics by the third place in the prelympic tournament, Puerto Rico was the only one in the semifinals a non european team in a tournament taked in Greece. But congratolations to all, the next fiba world championship, Europe will have 10 spot for that torunament, they are the best right?, well they deserve that 10 spots. (ironic)
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Carlos Nadal
    Name me one team from the Americas or elsewhere that deserved to be in the Olympics more than any of the participating Euro teams. I honestly could not think of any.
    Ok, by your answer, you will put Italy, France, Turkey, Slovenia and Serbia because they are better than the other teams of other continents.


    Commonnnnnnnnn....
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF
    FIBA will give europe more spots in all the events?, common, how the teams in other countries will progress in basketball?
    Tournaments like this Preolympic give a chance to other continents to develop, by facing high level Euro teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF
    Ok, by your answer, you will put Italy, France, Turkey, Slovenia and Serbia because they are better than the other teams of other continents.


    Commonnnnnnnnn....
    Man, you seem to neglect some issues here.
    How many countries in the american continent share an interest in basketball and have a competitive team?
    I can see only 5.
    U.S.A, argentina, puerto rico, brazil, canada.
    The USA represents almost 1/3 of the total population in that continent right?
    Well you have 2 out of five, without any competition, and the other three teams have a chance for a ticket through pre-olympic qualifiers.
    You wanna know how many european countries have basketball history and have competitive teams?
    Over 15!
    And most of them do not have a chance to go there even through qualifiers.
    What did you expect? all 5 american teams that play basketball at the olympics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF
    Ok, by your answer, you will put Italy, France, Turkey, Slovenia and Serbia because they are better than the other teams of other continents.


    Commonnnnnnnnn....

    Dude, we are not the ones complaining about the number of Euro teams in the OG. "You" are. In the OG there should be representation from all continents so it is fair to have teams from all continents even if they are weaker compared to other teams from other continents. However the number of teams from each continent should reflect the strength of teams from these continents. Should we give Oceania 3 spots too and allow Fiji to play in the Olympics? Think it in another way. Euro teams have to fight against at least 10-12 teams (I am even being conservative) to even get to the position to fight for a OG berth. In the Americas how many teams could in any given day fight for a continental (Americas) top-4 spot?

    And it's not like non-Euro teams were not given a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    You know what I mean, they wouldn't be there if China was not hosting.
    I'm not so sure about that---Iran's guards are a lot quicker. Their playmaker, Kamrany would eat up China's defence, and watch out when Iran goes on a full court press. It be a good game, only thing that is China's gotten the upper hand when it comes to controlling the boards

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    Ok people, if we continue like that, the FIba WC and the Olympic will be created to ARGENTINA, USA and 15 European teams, congratulations to the WORLD Basketball, they are doing a good job developing basketball in all the countries in the world.

    good night people.
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    I am starting to wish that Panama hadn't choked away their game against Argentina last summer.

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