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    Default Australia NT 2008

    Welcome to the official thread of the Australian "Boomers" Olympic campaign.
    Discuss here the progress, the news and the development of the "Boomers" as they take on the basketball world in their quest to demonstrate to the Australian public and the basketball community that the sport is not "dead" in the Land Down Under.

    Currently, these are the players for the National Team:

    David ANDERSEN
    Forward/Centre / 212cm / Barcelona (Spain)

    Chris ANSTEY
    Centre / 213cm / Melbourne Tigers

    David BARLOW
    Guard/205cm/Melbourne Tigers

    Andrew BOGUT
    Centre / 213cm / Milwaukee Bucks (USA)

    CJ BRUTON
    Guard / 188cm / Brisbane Bullets

    Joe INGLES
    Guard / 203cm / South Dragons

    Luke KENDALL
    Guard / 193cm / Sydney Kings

    Patrick MILLS
    Guard / 181cm / St. Mary's College Gaels (USA)

    Brad NEWLEY
    Guard / 198cm / Panionios (Greece)

    Matthew NIELSEN
    Forward / 209cm / Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania)

    Shawn REDHAGE
    Forward / 203cm / Perth Wildcats

    Glen SAVILLE
    Guard / 197cm / Sydney Kings

    Mark WORTHINGTON
    Forward / 202cm / Sydney Kings


    Only 32 days till the Olympics and a lot of questions have been hampering the squad.


    Will they finish in the top 4 like in '96 and 2000?

    Will their success or failure enhance or destroy the sport back home?

    Who will be the team's MVP?

    Is there far too many quality players in the frontcourt and not enough on the 2 and 3 spots?

    What will bring the "Boomers" success?
    "No hay poder en el mundo que pueda cambiar el destino"
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    well i think they can go very high, coz squad looks really not bad, i think they should be in top8. Bogut, Andersen and Nielsen looks really solid in front line, but i have no idea about guards, i think this is weaker side of this team. anyway, good luck, i our group i will root for them, after Lithuania.
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    Default Croatia 71 - Australia 69 (Acropolis Tournament in Athens)

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    Boomers suffer narrow defeat

    Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:49 AM



    The Australian men's basketball team has lost a thrilling opening game at the Acropolis Tournament in Athens, falling to Croatia by two points, 71-69.

    The Boomers recovered from an eight-point halftime deficit and led in the final period before poor shooting and some questionable decision making down the stretch ultimately led to their demise.

    Australia connected on only 2-of-28 three-point attempts after the first quarter.

    Reigning NBL MVP Chris Anstey top scored for Australia with 12 points while CJ Bruton added 11 points. Patrick Mills and Brad Newley chipped in 10 points apiece.

    Croatia, along with Brazil and Greece at the Acropolis Tournament, is in the final stages of preparation for the pre-Olympic qualifying tournament to be held in Athens next week while Australia, as FIBA Oceania Champion, has already claimed its Beijing berth.

    The Boomers continue their Olympic preparation with games against European giants Greece on Wednesday morning (Australian time) and Latino legends Brazil on Thursday before returning home on Saturday.

    The AOC will announce the Australian men's basketball section of the Australian Olympic team on Friday.

    "We didn't shoot the ball well tonight," Boomers head coach Brian Goorjian said.

    "We are still in a process of getting Matty Nielsen and Dave Andersen slotted in and the next two games are going to be really important for us."

    Croatia's Davor Kus and Marko Popovic were equal game high-scorers with 16 points.



    Quarter by quarter:
    1. CRO 24 AUS 20
    H: CRO 48 AUS 40 (24-20)
    3: CRO 60 AUS 53 (12-13)
    F: CRO 71 AUS 69 (11-16)



    CROATIA 71 - Davor Kus 16, Marko Popovic 16, Sandro Nicevic 11 bt
    AUSTRALIA 69 - Chris Anstey 12, CJ Bruton 11, Patrick Mills 10, Brad Newley 10
    at Acropolis Tournament, Athens
    The one aspect that I like about this type of "Boomers" is that they are a more defensive/ team focused unit in comparison to the 90s when the team was more predictable with Shane Heal and Andrew Gaze being the only offensive options. Sure enough that they were quite successful ('92 - 6th; '96 - 4th; & '00 - 4th) compared to this unit ('04 - 9th & '08 - ?) though this unit still has not finished with business but they were very predictable in very important games.

    Though American-Armenian-Australian Coach Goorjian likes to have the offense focus around the "Bogey Man" this team is still is less predictable on offense and is definitely a more defensive minded (well, one explanation is that Goorjian is a very, very defensive minded coach).
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    Boomers samba past Brazil

    Thu, 10 Jul 2008 9:31 AM
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    Australia's men's basketball team has defeated Brazil 89-84 at the Acropolis Tournament in Athens.

    Veteran Melbourne Tigers centre Chris Anstey top scored for the Boomers with 24 points while South Australia's Brad Newley added 17 points in his best game on tour. 19-year old point guard Patrick Mills showed great maturity to bounce back from a tough game against Greece to contribute 10 points.

    Marcelo Machado (20 points) and Marcelo Huertas (19) were Brazil's best.

    Last time the two teams met the Boomers beat Brazil 83-77 at the 2006 FIBA World Championship in Japan.

    Boomers head coach Brain Goorjian praised the heart of all of his players but reserved special praise for his Melbourne Tigers centre.

    "The boys performed very, very well and there was great production from a lot of young guys," Goorjian said.

    "Patrick Mills, Joe Ingles, Brad Newley all had sensational games and were up a level from the Greece game."

    "And we had a standout performance from Chris Anstey. He probably, in all honesty, was our best player throughout the tournament and he played his best game tonight."

    Anstey finished the tournament fifth in scoring and rebounding and second in blocked shots.

    Brazil came into today's match against Australia as favourites after comfortably defeating Croatia, who chalked up back-to-back victories against the Boomers, and rode their good form to a 28-21 lead after one quarter of play.

    Australia lifted in the second quarter and put a stranglehold on Brazil's offence that restricted the Latino legends to just 13 points for the period.

    The Boomers galloped into the main break ahead by seven points, 48-41, and vowed in the locker room to end this European tour on a high.

    The action was aggressive in the second half with the two teams going basket for basket before Australia held its nerve down the stretch to record a satisfying five point win.

    In other action, Greece cruised past Croatia 77-64 and were named as winner of the event for the fourth straight year.

    The Boomers will arrive back in Australia on Saturday night and enjoy two days rest before entering their final training camp on the Gold Coast on Tuesday.

    AUSTRALIA 89 - Chris Anstey 24, Brad Newley 17, Patrick Mills 10
    BRAZIL 84 - Marcelo Machado 20, Marcelo Huertas 19, Alex Garcia 15
    at Acropolis Tournament, Athens

    Quarter by quarter:
    1: BRA 28 AUS 21
    H: AUS 48 BRA 41 (27-13)
    3: AUS 66 BRA 60 (18-19)
    F: AUS 89 BRA 84 (23-24)
    "No hay poder en el mundo que pueda cambiar el destino"
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    Where are Ogilvy, Maric, Baynes, Nelson and the rest of teh Aussie NCCA players? me think the current lineup is a big mistake. The Aussie pro league is not that good. The NCAA games are played a lot more tougher and quicker

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotjam_2
    Where are Ogilvy, Maric, Baynes, Nelson and the rest of teh Aussie NCCA players? me think the current lineup is a big mistake. The Aussie pro league is not that good. The NCAA games are played a lot more tougher and quicker
    Mate, you definitely do not know what you're talking about. Sure enough the top conferences such as the ACC and the SEC are a level higher BUT not that much higher. The NBL has former NBA players, former Euro League imports and Australian National Team members. Just ask NBA Draft Pick Nathan Jawai and he'll tell you that the NBL is tougher on average than the NCAA. On average that is.
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    Default OFFICIAL ROSTER for the '08 Beijing Olympics

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    Boomers Olympic team revealed

    Fri, 11 Jul 2008 9:34 AM
    Source: AOC



    With NBA 75-million dollar man Andrew Bogut and international stars David Andersen and Matthew Nielsen taking the court, that elusive Olympic medal for the Australian men's basketball team may be in sight.

    "We really have a talented group of guys going over and if we can push through the first round we have the ability to surprise everyone with our results," Olympian Chris Anstey, who finished fourth in Sydney 2000 said.

    Anstey, the reigning National Basketball League most valuable player, heads to Beijing with Olympic experience and high expectations for the team.

    "We're right up there with the European teams at the moment. We have a really unique style of basketball and if the teams we play don't adapt to it in time, we'll have a good advantage over them."

    Fresh off the back of a challenging tour in Europe and clean sweep series against Iran and New Zealand, the Australian team is in the valuable position of returning home for a training camp before arriving in Beijing.

    "We're fortunate to have this time to fix the issues we've identified in Greece and get over to Beijing with the best preparation we've ever had," head coach Brian Goorjian said.

    The biggest test for Goorjian is blending Bogut, Nielsen and Andersen with the other players after long seasons away in the American and Russian leagues.

    "The challenge we face now is learning to play together," Goorjian said. "The quality of players and the depth of experience we have is really exciting, but when Bogut joins us, we've got just eight days to make it work."

    Backing the household names such as CJ Bruton and Glen Saville will be some fresh new faces whose impact is certain to be felt both in Beijing and the coming years of international basketball.

    Rising stars Patrick Mills (19) and Joe Ingles (20) are among six players making their Olympic debut in Beijing.

    "The young players are going to be very important to our results," Goorjian said. "They'll be playing and contributing in Beijing but you'll be watching them for the next two Games to come."

    Australia have drawn a tough group for the Games, facing Athens gold medallists Argentina, Asian champions Iran, Lithuania, European champions Russia and one team to be determined in a qualification series next week.

    They avoid the powerhouse US 'Dream Team', 2006 world champions Spain and hosts China in the preliminaries. Goorjian will however put his team up against the United States in a pre-Olympic face-off in Shanghai on August 5.

    With the "face of the Games" Yao Ming hitting the boards for China, men's basketball is set to be the biggest team sport in Beijing.

    At a difficult time for the sport domestically, the Olympic Games promise to mark an exciting time in the growth of Australian basketball.

    Men's basketball section of the 2008 Australian Olympic team:

    David Andersen / Forward/Centre / 212cm - Barcelona (ESP)
    Chris Anstey / Centre / 213cm - Melbourne Tigers (AUS)
    David Barlow / Guard / 205cm - Melbourne Tigers (AUS)
    Andrew Bogut / Centre / 213cm - Milwaukee Bucks (USA)
    CJ Bruton / Guard / 188cm - Brisbane Bullets (AUS)
    Joe Ingles / Guard / 203cm - South Dragons (AUS)
    Patrick Mills / Guard / 181cm - St. Mary's College Gaels (USA)
    Brad Newley / Guard / 198cm - Panionios (GRE)
    Matthew Nielsen / Forward / 209cm - Lietuvos Rytas (LIT)
    Shawn Redhage / Forward / 202cm - Perth Wildcats (AUS)
    Glen Saville / Guard/Forward / 197cm - Wollongong Hawks (AUS)
    Mark Worthington / Forward / 202cm - Sydney Kings (AUS)

    GO THE BOOMERS!!!

    Most likely the starting five will be:


    PG: CJ Bruton
    SG: Brad Newley
    SF: Glen Saville
    PF: Matt Nielsen
    C: Andrew Bogut

    Sixth Man: David Anderson or David Barlow
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    Australia defeated China 67-55 in a a pre-Olympic tournament in Nanjing, China.
    Yao Ming apparently shaded Australia's Andrew Bogut in the battle of NBA big men, but the visitors took control down the stretch to get off to the best possible start in the six-nation tournament.
    Yao finished with 14 points and seven boards, while Bogut had nine points and eight rebounds.
    Chris Anstey played an important role for the Boomers, finishing with a team-high 11 points, while European-based forward Dave Andersen also impressed in his 10-point haul.
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    What is telling, is that the Boomers forced China into 25 turnovers, that's really bad and going to HAVE to be addressed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart
    What is telling, is that the Boomers forced China into 25 turnovers, that's really bad and going to HAVE to be addressed...

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    It is also telling us that Australia is underestimated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g.g
    It is also telling us that Australia is underestimated.
    Or China overestimated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by g.g
    It is also telling us that Australia is underestimated.

    Australia definitely has a better squad than back in '04 but what worries me is the depth that we don't have in the 2/3 department.
    Once again, the game demonstrated my statement that Coach Goorjian's system is all about defensive / team-basketball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saskibaloia
    Australia definitely has a better squad than back in '04 but what worries me is the depth that we don't have in the 2/3 department.
    Once again, the game demonstrated my statement that Coach Goorjian's system is all about defensive / team-basketball.
    I give your coach a lot of credits for executing the defensive scheme so brilliantly, full court press with half court traps, your big men also did a good job guarding the low post (of course our guards sucking big time has something to do with it...). Unfortunately your team doesn't seem to have too many athletes, nor a consistent scorer and looked pretty passive on offensive rebounds (especially compared to, say, Angola). I know Bogut will play better than today though.
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    Very good performance by the Boomers against China. They will only improve from here, especially Bogut and Nielsen who both looked a bit rusty.

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    i think our bigs are really competitive. what worries me is our guards. i still think we picked too many combo players and not enough pure specialists. i would have liked to have seen a pure point guard selected to go along with CJ and Mills and i'm thinking that adam gibson was the unluckiest player at selection trials to miss out.
    In our forwards i am still curious as to what role redhage and worthington will play... particularly behind the big front four of bogut, neilsen, anstey and anderson.

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    and yes... i too think china is overestimated

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    The Australian men's basketball side continued their pre-Games build up with a buzzer-beating three-pointer from CJ Bruton handing Australia an 81-78 win over Angola in the FIBA Diamond Ball tournament in Nanjing.
    It wasn't the best performance by the Boomers but a game high 32 points and 11 rebounds to NBA centre Andrew Bogut is a positive sign ahead of the Olympic tournament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kajacko
    The Australian men's basketball side continued their pre-Games build up with a buzzer-beating three-pointer from CJ Bruton handing Australia an 81-78 win over Angola in the FIBA Diamond Ball tournament in Nanjing.
    It wasn't the best performance by the Boomers but a game high 32 points and 11 rebounds to NBA centre Andrew Bogut is a positive sign ahead of the Olympic tournament.
    I saw the game, i when the Australian team can go far in the olympics if bogut doesn´t get hurt,or in foul trouble in key games! They really rely on him but they have good players to back him up!Also angola has a good team it was a good test!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KWSN-Men
    Or China overestimated...
    or both!

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    I think they'll make the Top 8. Australia has some of the best players in the world and a great coach, but I think they also lack experience. They're also moving in a new direction with Bogut being the focus of attention (right?), so they'll need a couple of good tournaments before they start showing what they can do.

    Saski, do you guys say "Go The Boomers" or "Go Boomers?"
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