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  • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
    6-8 player ~ 6-7 player? WRONG! 6-8 player ~ 7-1 player? Much better
    Wow, Ludux. For a 2 weeks silence you could come up with the fatter slack.

    Originally posted by ZaliaBalta View Post
    If Murauskas lives out to his full potential (or even more), then the first example of a pro player that comes to my mind is Nikola Mirotič. Obviously it is close to impossible to reach such level, but that would be one of the most accurate comparisons, in my opinion.
    Yeah, pretty good comparison, even if I think Murauskas is much more interior player and Mirotic exterior. Hate to hear he's cocky and immature, but things will past hopefully. It was funny to see how he screamed into Tubelis face in that final and later Tubelis blocked the life out of him like big time and dominated him, that was a good lesson for him. The sky is high for him if he will be a hard worker.
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • After lots of thinking I still think Kleiza scenario is more likely than Pau scenario
      The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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      • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
        After lots of thinking I still think Kleiza scenario is more likely than Pau scenario
        Definition of poor man's. 1 —used to refer to someone (such as a performer) who is like another person in some ways but not as talented or successful, a young actor who is said to be the poor man's James Dean.

        PS: Murauskas is the biggest stand-out as 15yo in modern era - since 2000 let's say. No other 15yo ever was dropping 12.3/7.7 at U16 EB. F.e. Valanciunas in similar situation was 2.3/2.9 type of player.
        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
        Buzelis, Lelevicius
        Murauskas, Sirvydis
        Tubelis, Krivas

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        • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
          Definition of poor man's. 1 —used to refer to someone (such as a performer) who is like another person in some ways but not as talented or successful, a young actor who is said to be the poor man's James Dean.

          PS: Murauskas is the biggest stand-out as 15yo in modern era - since 2000 let's say. No other 15yo ever was dropping 12.3/7.7 at U16 EB. F.e. Valanciunas in similar situation was 2.3/2.9 type of player.
          So what are those "some ways" that makes Murauskas Pau-like center?

          Sedekerskis 11.4. And he had no luxury of potential top scorer being injured
          The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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          • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
            So what are those "some ways" that makes Murauskas Pau-like center?

            Sedekerskis 11.4. And he had no luxury of potential top scorer being injured

            Pau was 5/4 tweener and Murauskas will be such as well, IMO. OK, maybe he will be pure 4, maybe. But he's playing like a big. Particularly, it's versatility, very natural instincts, he does so many things with outspread legs and hands with little effort because of it and high IQ. The way he puts the ball on the floor and goes face to face aggressively with the decisive first step, he can pass and shoot a jump shot. He's highly skilled for a big. Again, poor man' Pau. To me, Diaw's comparison is most spot on if you ask me.

            Sedekerskis was projected as first rounder in his 16-18. Later things got sour.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
              Pau was 5/4 tweener and Murauskas will be such as well, IMO. OK, maybe he will be pure 4, maybe. But he's playing like a big. Particularly, it's versatility, very natural instincts, he does so many things with outspread legs and hands with little effort because of it and high IQ. The way he puts the ball on the floor and goes face to face aggressively with the decisive first step, he can pass and shoot a jump shot. He's highly skilled for a big. Again, poor man' Pau. To me, Diaw's comparison is most spot on if you ask me.

              Sedekerskis was projected as first rounder in his 16-18. Later things got sour.
              AKA perimeter player, not like Gasol at all (unless it's legendary Perimeter Pau)
              The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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              • But I understand, people are stupid here, but "za gubrom takije specialisty..."
                The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
                  AKA perimeter player, not like Gasol at all (unless it's legendary Perimeter Pau)
                  As I said, Murauskas doesn't even have consistent jumper. To compare him with a player who can basically do 2 things in BB - that is running and shooting- is absolute nonsense, and the biggest nonsense is that he will never even smell SF position as a PRO, let a lone being a wing as Giedraitis. That's imbecile projection, you like it not. That's not a debate, that's the worst projection I heard in years. Back to your argument, Murauskas' shooting is overestimated. Sure he has decent form and may develop into solid shooter for a big later, but as of yet his three are this and I don't see him developing into elite stretch 4, I see him as elite versatile big:

                  Euroleague 27.6%
                  NKL 27.8%
                  FIBA 31.3%
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • Kleiza dreamt about such marksmenship at 16
                    The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                    • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
                      Wow, Ludux. For a 2 weeks silence you could come up with the fatter slack.



                      Yeah, pretty good comparison, even if I think Murauskas is much more interior player and Mirotic exterior. Hate to hear he's cocky and immature, but things will past hopefully. It was funny to see how he screamed into Tubelis face in that final and later Tubelis blocked the life out of him like big time and dominated him, that was a good lesson for him. The sky is high for him if he will be a hard worker.
                      he lost his head and made a lot of dumb fouls, how is that tubelis dominating?

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                      • Originally posted by zalias View Post
                        he lost his head and made a lot of dumb fouls, how is that tubelis dominating?
                        Well, probably by not loosing his head, not making silly fouls and showing a more professional character on the court. oh and also by stuffing the stat-sheet

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                        • Lietuva – krepšinio talentų kalvė. Čia gausu nešlifuotų krepšinio deimantų, kurie patekę į tinkamas rankas gali tapti elitiniais krepšininkais. Tačiau toli gražu ne visi talentingi žaidėjai pasiekia savo lubas ir išpildo potencialą.


                          He had a small body so he should had been an ultra hard-working to reach an elite level and anyway he had too much bad habits and injuries (lack of working ethics could cause them as well), but his speed and court vision were exceptional.

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                          • Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                            https://m.basketnews.lt/news-138537-...io-olimpo.html

                            He had a small body so he should had been an ultra hard-working to reach an elite level and anyway he had too much bad habits and injuries (lack of working ethics could cause them as well), but his speed and court vision were exceptional.
                            I was high on him when he rocked in LKL with Perlas (first season for JV in LKL). But thinking that he never even reached 70kg and listed at 65kg, that's crazy. He had zero chances to make it really high, IMO. I mean even Iverson being shorter, weighted 75kg. If not injury, he could have more solid LKL seasons though.
                            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                            Buzelis, Lelevicius
                            Murauskas, Sirvydis
                            Tubelis, Krivas

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                            • Extended highs by Jokubaitis this season. Missed long passes and impressive angles he manages to find for dishing in this video. Despite being left hand dominant, seems to be able to drive to the right. Sometimes lack of quickness is obvious, but overall the most impressive 19yo in LKL ever to appear (surely better than Kalnietis f.e.):

                              Rokas Jokubaitis #31 highlights.Player's profile: https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Rokas_Jokubaitis/Lithuania/BC-Zalgiris-Kaunas/387852BC "Žalgiris",...




                              Actually interesting comparison between Kalnietis and Jokubaitis 19yo first seasons in LKL:

                              Kalnietis 17min, 5,5pts, 2,7a, 5,3ef (51,4/30/28,6 - %)
                              Jokubaitis 17min, 7,4pts, 2,6a, 8.8 ef (59/45.5/80 - %)
                              Last edited by Straight forward; 04-02-2020, 08:49 AM.
                              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                              Buzelis, Lelevicius
                              Murauskas, Sirvydis
                              Tubelis, Krivas

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                              • Since the season is over. Here's the review of youngster's season and ranking by best performances overall:

                                I exclude Echodas and Birtutis, even if they still 22yo, to me they are in different category. Already had solid seasons in the past and solving different problems than players I mention, IMO. Besides, IMO, nothing really new in their sides. So no 1997 generation, I start only from 1998.

                                1. R. Jokubaitis. IMO, it's not even close, specially knowing 19yo age. Impressive performance in LKL with amazing shooting % and impressive maturity. Marks in EL and NT. NT/EL stud is growing.
                                2. A. Kulboka. IMO, he played at the highest level from all youngsters this season, almost 22min in ACB is serious. He exceeded expectations after the season in Germany. A bit inconsistent, but generally a beast of a season for freshly turned 22yo. He's a PRO already and, IMO, should play for Hornets next season or increase his numbers in ACB even more.
                                3. I. Brazdeikis. To me it's between him and Velicka, but let's face it, barely any other wing or SF would be dropping 21ppg in G league. Maybe, Kuz or Grigonis, but that's a question. G league is very liberal environment and Brazdeikis is super raw player when it comes to real PRO BB, but scoring numbers don't lie, he's 14th best scorer in the G league. Crappy D, ISO mentality, but potential is surely here.
                                4. A. Velicka. Super impressive start, a slump and strong bounce back. He's good, very good for a 20yo in LKL. ISO PG who learns to play system BB and I think made a huge stride forward this season and I project him Kalnietis' kind of career.
                                5. Blažėvič. Has to say he made huge strides. I'm not high on him as he's from dying breed, but he has very good fundamentals. If traditional bruisers will somehow survive , he'll have a career.
                                6. D. Giedraitis. Some will say it's crazy as he played only some 8 games, but the guy made huge jump, huge stride from 4th ES league to ACB. Showed that he basically can play in ACB, some impressive shooting and solid D. Got good words from coach and ride the bench only because of foreigners restriction. IMO, he should crack ACB rotation next season and that's still very positive growing season for him, IMO.
                                6. D. Sirvydis. IMO, less than expected, but he made strides defensively and improving his body, toughness, added more contact into his game. That's, IMO, more than Sedekerkis and specially Masiulis managed to bring.
                                7. T. Sedekerkis. IMO, it wasn't all that bad season for him. Great efficiency, just lack of cheekiness. He showed he can play, just needs time and coach who would kick his ass and push him.
                                8. T. Jogela. Played off his position at 1. Stats went down, but he looked pretty good. IMO, made a step forward and remains still very interesting wing propect. What I love about him, that he radically improved threes %, from 24,7% to 37,9%.
                                9. G. Masiulis. IMO, most disappointing youngster this season. His stats even declined a bit and he was bleak overall. Declined three point shooting %. No brake out seasons as expected, mainly due to injuries.
                                10. Uleckas, Lukosiunas, K.Giedraitis, Metrikis. May be NT bordeliners or something, but I'm not high on either of them.

                                I didn't include younger prospects, let's leave them aside till they make real noise in LKL.
                                Last edited by Straight forward; 04-02-2020, 09:59 AM.
                                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                                Tubelis, Krivas

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