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    Default Adriatic league 2008/2009

    And here we go again. The league will have again 14 teams. But it looks like that it will be the last season with 14 teams. From the season 09/10 the league should have 12 teams. And perhaps we will see also a NLB 2 from the season 09/10 on. And if you ask me a NLB 2 is needed. The clubs that don´t play in the NLB league suck more and more from year to year.

    Few teams secured the qualification for the next season yet.

    Serbia
    Partizan Belgrade
    FMP Belgrade
    Zvezda Belgrade
    Hemofarm Vrsac
    Vojvodina Novi Sad

    Montenegro
    Buducnost Podgorica

    Slovenia
    Olimpija Ljubljana
    Helios Domzale
    Krka or Lasko


    Croatia

    KK Zadar

    And the other times will be decided mostlikely today. With a win from Cibona over Zagreb, Split will be 2nd and Zagreb 3rd. But only when Zagreb lose with 8 points against Cibona. If they lose by 9 points, they go to place 4 and Cibona on 3. If Zagreb win Cibona will stay at place 4 and must hope to win the champinship or wait for a WC from the NLB to play next year again in NLB. With a win over Cibona Zagreb would be 2nd and Split 3rd.

    BIH

    They have only one place and the champion will play in the NLB next year. Bosna was on a good way to secure the 1st place before the playoffs, but they lost at home against Borac Banja Luka and so everything is open again. It looks like we will see a hard fight between Bosna, Siroki and Igokea. Bosna plays against Igokea tomorrow in Aleksandrovac. Igokea lost the 1st game in Sarajevo with 82-80 and with a win tomorrow from more then 2 points they will take the 1st place.

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    Krka is in next years Adriatic League!

    Welcome back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaj
    Krka is in next years Adriatic League!

    Welcome back!
    Unless Laško wins the title of course... which won't happen anyway

    It'll be interesting to see Krka's budget for the next season.
    Marcelić is getting old, while players like Balažič, Sorrentine, Rakočević are good but not really anything extra for adriatic league level. It all depends on team's pharmaceutical "parent's" willingness to increase the "pocket money".
    If we assume Martič would be gone from Helios next season, Helios can't be as bad next season either, so I guess we'll be keeping 3 teams for a bit longer... Široki really missed a hard-to-miss chance this year.


    I don't support the 2nd adriatic league since costs of running this NLB league go up to 2.2 millions € (budget=2.5 M €) and I can't see anyone covering up the simmilar ammount for the second one. Even if the costs for the 2nd NLB would go down to 1 million only due to separate 2 divisions being played, I prefer that extra money to be given to top4 or top8 adriatic league clubs instead. For most of those teams extra 100.000 € would mean quite a lot when planning for the next season.

    Cibona beat Zagreb today with 104:87. One part of me dislikes Cibona's policy in the last 4-5 years and wouldn't mind if they get a warning that might throw down their manager board once and for all. But on the other hand they'd get either that wild-card or might win the championship even as 4th seed...
    I kind of prefer it this way since I'd like to see Bosna in NLB again. Not that much for their level in the last years, but because I respect their fans for supporting their team in such numbers.
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    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Bosna will win adriatic league next year.....

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    Of course
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    Brewer left Zadar. He will play for ASK Riga next year and will get 400.000$ per season.

    So Partizan, Red Star, Zadar has lost the PG´s. And Olimpija with Dragic may follow.

    And it seems like Juby Johnson will stay in Zadar. Rumours are that some clubs from the ACB are interested in him. Especially Valencia and Unicaja who would pay him 400.000€ per season. But Juby likes Zadar very much and he is playing since 3-4 years now in Zadar and so he maybe will stay for less money. I don´t think that Zadar is able to pay him 400.000€ per season.

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    After Bosna Sarajevo won the title in the NBA we have still one place free. Zagreb, Siroki or Igokea will get this place. I think Zagreb is the favourit for it. It will be decided on the 1th July who will get the wildcard.

    Zagreb today signed Dzenan Rahimic (C/33year old) who played for Bosna Sarajevo this season. They are als near to sign Luka Drezga (SG/87) from KK Sibenik. They are also interested in Luka Petkovic (PG/88) from KK Sibenik.

    Denis Vrsaljko (C), Ruzic (PF), Garma (SF) and Kovacevic (SG) may leave or be loaned out.

    But it will be interesting to see if Vladovic, Simon and Tomic will stay. If they stay they could have a strong team next year.

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    Sinisa Stemberger signed with Split.

    Alen Abaz is the new headcoach from Bosna Sarajevo. He signed for 3 years.

    Partizan signed Aleksander Rasic for 3 years and Vukasin Aleksic for 4 years.

    Steven Markovic, Igor Milosevic and Marko Lekic left Red Star Belgrade. Aleksandrov will follow in the next few days.

    Zadar signed Dejan Ivanov, Malik Dixon, Damir Rancic and Tomislav Ruzic for the next season. Pankracije Parac, Jure Lalic and Andrej Stimac left the klub. And Gecevski may follow.

    Warren left Cibona. Rozic will stay in Cibona. He signed a new contract and will earn 180.000-200.000€ per season.

    Perhaps we should make a list of the rosters as last year.

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    Člani skupčine so tudi zglasovali, da se liga NLB v prihodnji sezoni po dveh uspešnih letih ne bo več izvedal tekmovanja All Stars, prišlo pa je tudi do spremembe tekmovalnega sistema. V sezoni 2008/09 se tako ne bodo več igrale četrtfinalne tekme. Zakaj? »Ker je evroliga spremenila svoj tekmovalni sistem in s tem zasedla velik del prostih terminov, smo si bili člani skupščine soglasni, da ni več prostih terminov za odigravanje četrtfinala v ligi NLB. V sezoni 2008/09 bo tako na sporedu spet le finalni turnir, podobno kot v prvih treh letih regionalnega tekmovanja,« je pojansil novi predsednik skupščine Sidra ABA d. o. o. Danilo Mitrović.

    Na dnevnem redu je bila tudi razprava o zmanjšanju klubov s sedanjega števila 14 na 12 v szeoni 2009/2010, vendar so se odločili, da nadaljno razpravo prestavijo na september. »Sprejeli smo sklep, da je treba do septembra pripraviti finančni razrez, ki bo pokazal, kakšne so prednosti in kakšne slabosti morebitnega zmanjšanja,« je pojansil Mitrović in dodal, da se je na skupščini še vedno pokazala večinska naklonjenost temu, da liga NLB ostane pri 14 sodelujočih klubih.
    Zagreb got the WC and will be the 14th and last team that will play in NLB next season.

    But also some changes were made.

    The All-Star game will not be played anymore.

    The 1/4 finale will not be played anymore. Now we will have the system as in the 1st 3 years. That means that the 1st 4 teams will be automaticaly in the F4.

    And it is still not sure if we will have a league of 14 or 12 teams from the season 2009/2010. They will decide this in September. Now the majority is for a league with 14 teams. I hope it will be reduced to 12.

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    Lucic, young and very talented SG-SF (202 1989) join Partizan.

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    ADRIATIC LEAGUE 2008/2009 ROSTERS:

    PARTIZAN BELGRADE


    PG: Aleksandar Rašić - Vukašin Aleksić
    SG: Uroš Tripković - Petar Božić
    SF: Milenko Tepić - Cedomir Vitkovac - Strahija Milošević
    PF: Novica Veličković - Jan Vesely - Marko Djurković
    C: Stephane Lasme - Žarko Rakočević - Slavko Vraneš

    Headcoach: Dušan Vujošević
    Roster status: closed

    UNION OLIMPIJA LJUBLJANA


    PG: Vlado Ilievski - Jonathan Wallace - Mirza Sarajlija
    SG: Jaka Klobučar - Sašo Ožbolt
    SF: Jasmin Hukić - Damjan Rudež - Matic Sirnik
    PF: Marko Milič - Miha Zupan
    C: Vladimir Golubović - Mirza Begić - Dejan Radojević

    Headcoach: Aleksandar Džikić
    Roster status: Looking for a SG (NBA cuts)

    CIBONA ZAGREB


    PG: Davor Kus - Earl Colloway - Vedran Princ
    SG: Branimir Longin - Robert Troha - Goran Vrbanc
    SF: Rawle Marshall - Marin Rozić - Vedran Vukošić
    PF: Damir Markota - Lukša Andrić - Tomislav Zubčić
    C: Nikola Prkačin - Franko Kaštropil

    Headcoach: Velimir Perasović
    Roster status: closed

    ZADAR

    PG: Malik Dixon - Rok Stipčević - Toni Prostran
    SG: Marlon Garnett - Damir Rančić
    SF: Juby Johnson - Hrvoje Perić
    PF: Tomislav Ružić - Jere Macura
    C: Todor Gečevski - Dejan Ivanov - Marino Šarlija

    Headcoach: Aleksandar Petrović
    Roster status: closed

    SPLIT


    PG: Eddie Shannon - Luka Klarica
    SG: Siniša Štemberger - Marko Batina
    SF: Antonio Grant - Zoran Vrkić
    PF: Stephen Brun - Mario Delaš - Ante Bilobrk
    C: Andrija Stipanović - Joško Poljak - Nino Vlaić

    Headcoach: Slobodan Subotić
    Roster status: closed

    KRKA


    PG: Simon Petrov - Bruce Price - Bojan Krivec - Rene Žvan
    SG: Ricky Shields - Nejc Koračin - Maj Kovačevič
    SF: Davor Marcelić - Stanko Sebič
    PF: Jure Balažič - Dragiša Drobnjak - Matej Župevec
    C: Smiljan Pavič - Marko Rakočević

    Headcoach: Ivan Sunara
    Roster status: closed?

    HELIOS DOMŽALE


    PG: Jure Močnik - Žiga Zagorc - Klemen Škrlec
    SG: Alvin Snow - Vjekoslav Petrovič
    SF: Nick Jacobson - Sanel Bajramlić - Igor Tratnik - Klemen Balažic
    PF: Željko Zagorac - Aleksei Lashkevich - Miha Zalokar
    C: Domen Žerak - Matej Krušič

    Headcoach: Rade Mijanovič
    Roster status: closed

    BOSNA ASA BH TELECOM SARAJEVO


    PG: Dušan Đorđević - Chris Rodgers - Eldin Čamdžić
    SG: Stanley Burrell - Goran Ikonić - Aldin Majstorić - Muhamed Pašalić
    SF: Nikola Vučurović - Suad Šehović
    PF: Ivan Ivanović - Seid Hajrić
    C: Emir Zimić - Amar Suljagić

    Headcoach: Alen Abaz
    Roster status: closed

    CRVENA ZVEZDA BELGRADE


    PG: Marko Marinović - Boris Bakić - Nemanja Nedović
    SG: Andre Owens - Pavel Gromyko - Filip Šepa
    SF: Marko Kešelj - Mirko Kovač - Lazar Radosavljević
    PF: Lawrence Roberts - Milan Milošević - Tadija Dragićević - Nemanja Bjelica - Nikola Rondović
    C: Vladimir Štimac - Elmedin Kikanović - Stevan Milošević

    Headcoach: Svetislav Pešić
    Roster status: closed

    ZAGREB CROATIA OSIGURANJE


    PG: Jakov Vladović - Vedran Morović - Petar Babić
    SG: Krunoslav Simon - Luka Drezga - Luka Pešut
    SF: Toni Dijan - Filip Bašljan - Ivan Penić
    PF: Andrej Štimac - Mario Dundović - Ivan Papac
    C: Dženan Rahimić - Ante Tomić - Darko Novosel - Robert Rikić

    Headcoach: Željko Pavličević
    Roster status: closed

    BUDUĆNOST PODGORICA


    PG: Nemanja Gordić - Nikola Otašević - Nenad Mijatović
    SG: Sead Šehović - Miloš Bojović
    SF: Vladimir Dašić - Vladimir Micov - Marko Popović
    PF: Vladimir Dragičević - Ivan Maraš - Marko Simonović
    C: Nenad Mišanović - Marko Ljujić

    Headcoach: Dejan Radonjić
    Roster status: closed

    HEMOFARM STADA VRŠAC


    PG: Miljan Pavković - Stefan Marković
    SG: Bojan Krstović - Nebojša Joksimovič - Petar Despotović
    SF: Miloš Borisov - Uroš Petrović
    PF: Milan Mačvan - Milivoje Božović - Boris Savović
    C: Vladan Vukosavljević - Boban Marjanović

    Headcoach: Stevan Karadžić
    Roster status: closed

    FMP BELGRADE


    PG: Nemanja Protić - Filip Čović - Pedja Stamenković
    SG: Mladen Jeremić - Branko Lazić
    SF: Marko Savić - Stefan Živanović
    PF: Dragan Labović - Nikola Ilić - Rastko Dramičanin
    C: Predrag Samardžiski - Miroslav Raduljica - Dejan Musli

    Headcoach: Slobodan Klipa
    Roster status: closed

    VOJVODINA SRBIJAGAS


    PG: Jovan Zdravković - Marko Peković - Darko Habuš
    SG: Marko Šutalo - Stefan Hajduković
    SF: Ilija Pavković - Danijel Čavić
    PF: Miroslav Radenković - Dejan Borovnjak
    C: Marko Jovanović - Goran Bajić - Velibor Buha

    Headcoach: Zoran Sretenović
    Roster status: closed
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    Sepa is not PG.Aleksandrov is still in the mix. I dont think thats final FMP roster.
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    If I find some time i will write a preview in the next 2 days. First I thought to write it in german as last year, but know I will do it in english and can publish it on more forums.

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    Guys can you give me prediction on following matches?

    KK Zadar - Split Co
    Helios Domzale - Bosna Sarajevo
    KK FMP - Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    KK Zagreb - KK Nis Vojvodina
    Buducnost Podgorica - Union Olimpija
    Partizan Mobtel Belgrad - Krka Novo Mesto
    Hemofarm Vrsac - Cibona VIP Zagreb

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    I'd bet mostly on home teams, except on Budućnost - Olimpija, hard to say, Olimpija is the favourite, but latest news say that Ilievski, Hukić and Klobučar might not play due to injuries (Klobučar out for a month). Missing especially Ilievski would be a big handicap for Olimpija. We'll have to see how Wallace will respond.

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    I expect Buducnost to win, cause in Adriatic league, the referees use to favour home teams.

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    Except Zagreb and Partizan, there are no firm favorites in opening round

    Zadar had all sorts of problems heading into the season. Gecevski and Ivanov missed big chunk of traning camp due to playing for Macedonia and Bulgaria, and coach Petrovic had a falling out with Romel Beck, who is now out of the team. Split on the other hand has 7 new players in the rotation, but they played well in preparation games and may very well be able to snatch surprise win.

    Bosna didn`t look particularly well in two of the games i was able to see. They have good perimeter line, but their inside game is pretty weak. They are expected to sign additional player or two, but as of now they are going into the season with inexperienced youngsters Suljagic and Zimic at C position. Helios seems to have decent team, no paper atleast.

    Buducnost`s starting five backourt of Mijatovic (Otasevic) - Gordic - Micov is one of the strongest in the competition. While Dasic will play at PF for starters to cover up the absence of Dragicevic. Considering Olimpija`s problems with injurys, i`ll give them slight edge.

    You can never understimate FMP, but this edition seems to lack atleast some experienced players. Thier guards are not up to the level of thier frontline and they might face big problems in running thier halfcourt sets considering that most of their perimeter players show limited ability to break down defense. I˙ll bet on Zvezda in that one, they have very good roster now it`s up to Pesic to turn them into a formidable team.

    Hemofarm also didn`t look particularly good in preparation period, but Cibona was not impressing also. Markota is not with the team and Marshall arived just a few days ago so he might not play much. Hemofarm has great depth under the basket with Macvan, Marjanovic, Vukosavljevic, Savovic and Bozovic all capable of producing. Thier PG position is also very good with underrated Pavkovic and talented Markovic, but while Joksimovic and Krstovic are very good players they lack some more scoring power from thier wings.
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    Helios-Bosna: 74-79
    FMP Zeleznik-Crvena Zvezda: 78-84
    Zadar-Split: 81-67
    Zagreb-Vojvodina: 81-90
    Buducnost-Olimpija: 82-73
    Partizan-Krka: 74-67
    Hemofarm-Cibona: 86-76
    Last edited by MarkoMilic; 10-04-2008 at 08:10 PM.

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    Terrible game by Olimpija, they weren't able to adapt to aggressive Budućnost defence and also surprisingly they also lost rebounding... Wallace, dear god, youngster Sarajlija should get his minutes...

    Quote Originally Posted by elaj
    I'd bet mostly on home teams, except on Budućnost - Olimpija, hard to say, Olimpija is the favourite, but latest news say that Ilievski, Hukić and Klobučar might not play due to injuries (Klobučar out for a month). Missing especially Ilievski would be a big handicap for Olimpija. We'll have to see how Wallace will respond.
    Ilievski played despite being slightly injured, but Wallace... no comment, terrible start for him.

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    One again: Ljubliana is great in preperation, but lost first game in the Adriatic...
    2019/2020:
    PG: Dorsey, Walters, S. Cohen
    SG: Wilbekin, D-Ba, Bryant
    SF:Casspi, Avdija, Zoosman
    PF: Acy, Coloiaro, J. Cohen
    PF: Black, Hunter

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